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Merry ChristmasQuote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
http://cliftonvillefc.net/2018/12/24...nd-triumphant/
Obviously Gormley has little ambition if he turned down such an attractive move down south. The €75,000 allegedly bid for him could be used to fund an alternative big name striker from the UK - Padraig Amond is out of contract this summer although Newport have an option of another year. Dave Mooney is a little older and maybe a less expensive option
I would agree on lack of ambition, and I also read before a lot of the top NI players just get too comfortable with their set up.
Sat 3pm kick offs, most if not all clubs part time, meaning they can work if they wish, winter season, summer holidays and very limited travel involved. Almost has the attitude of they do not like change / challenge. I`m not sure what wages are like, but if they follow most other industries in NI the remuneration would be quite modest for most players I’d say.
Fair play to the chap, he got an improved contract and knows his limitations. He may have been better paid at Rovers but he has admitted to struggling with full time football, but being happy where he is at and turnning down the better offers is a bit refreshing. Was there anymore on the Crues bid?Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
While the transfer fee mentioned may still be used and even contribute to wages on whom do you spend it on. Would McMillan if he wants to stop his slow decline in a scottish reserve side fit the bill. Amond will probably be taken up on the extra year. There are a few single season options but none stand out. Rovers need to work waaay outside the box on a good hatstand!!
Does his message board have a funniest or stupidest post of the year award?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
As the Cliftonville Chairman said a couple of weeks ago....Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
"GerardLawlorCFC: I often wonder where some journalists get their stories from or do they just dream them up. Some of the transfer related stories I'm reading are totally fictional."
I wouldn't expect you to get it, but anyone who turns down a move to D24 has stunted ambition. In Gormley's case, if he has tried and failed to make it at a higher level, perhaps he should be lauded for recognisiing his limitationsQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Parker
If people think LOI football is something IL players and indeed clubs should aspire to, then be sadly mistaken.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
However, the most laughable part of the post I quoted was the suggestion to take the money, even though no such figure was ever bid, and spend it on some 'big name' from the UK.
You are probaby right, why play in a league where holidays during competative fixtures might be frowned upon, where full time training is an option, salaries are generally higher, crowds also generally higher, less travel and less committment might suit some prefectly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Parker
Whether money was bid or not, why did Cliftonville opt to offer a new contract when there was plenty left on his existing deal if they were not concerned at the risk of losing him?
Tbf the comment on some 'big name' striker from Ez was dripping in sarcasm if you knew of his general contempt for Shamrock Rovers so you may laugh away.
Maybe not 'aspire to', but certainly a step up on the ladder. Full time professional footballer is something every young kid who kicks a ball wants to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Parker
Ok. I will laugh away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
A notoriously fickle, short-lived career with few prospects after the age of 35 may be something every young kid aspires to, but adults have more world perspective. A real career with football on the side could easily be more lucrative than a professional football career and nothing afterwards bar maybe an old degreeQuote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Among the giggles, care to explain why a new contract was offered? Its a genuine question. Cliftonville would wont to protect an asset, but why go to such lengths with a contracted player unless there was risk of him leaving. It has been played lovely by Gorman himself!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Parker
Lads, the truth is in the middle as always. There may not have been a bid but Rovers were willing to pay a fee and had done some work to find out what it would be. Gormley may have been a success for Rovers but, with his injury record and being part time, it would have been a risk. Still, it probably wouldn't work out much different over the length of his contract from getting someone like Dan Carr in and putting him up for a couple of years.
In truth, I have no idea if the reported €75,000 bid was real or not (more astute readers may have gathered that from my use of the word 'alleged'), but I have little doubt that a decent striker could be acquired with that sort of transfer kitty in the UK or elsewhere- no doubt even a bigger name than, say Marco Tagbajumi, maybe even something in the realms of Johannes Vennegoor of Hesselink (okay, I know he must be about 40 years old by now).Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Parker
Anyway, it's good to see that you are following my lead and taking such a keen interest in the fortunes of the Shamrock Rovers and their striker predicament.
BTW has Joe Gormley bought that taxi yet?
It's a jump nevertheless. There's about 15 places between the leagues on the coefficient table.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Parker
It would certainly be a step up, most IL clubs are part time compared to most LOI being full time, so the benefits of daily training would improve most players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Parker
If you are looking at attendances, I’ve noticed quite a lot of IL top division apart from holiday periods are in 3 figures. LOI is nothing to boast about but comparison between both leagues, the best average from the IL would not be in the top 6 if all clubs were listed.
On the standard, apart from the top 3 maybe 4 in IL, I would consider the rest to be FD standard in LOI, and I have watched quite a few matches to get that opinion.
Ciaron Harkin in for Derry on a swap deal from Coleraine with Ben Doherty going in the opposite direction.
You don't see many of them(swap agreements) in the LOI these days!
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William Hondermarck moves from Drogheda to Norwich.
Waterford In:
Damien Delaney (Cork City)
Have his eligibility issues for Ireland been sorted out? Didn't he get called up for the 19s but didn't have a passport?Quote:
Originally Posted by GerByrne001
Interesting move. I wonder what Cork fans make of him at this point - is he over-the-hill or was the abject performance against Bohs just an aberration for an otherwise classy footballer?Quote:
Originally Posted by **FrOsTy**
Dylan Connolly has joined AFC Wimbledon for an undisclosed fee.
https://www.dundalkfc.com/connolly-departs-oriel/
WHat age are you ffs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
I think he's over the hill. Clearly has the footballing quality, but just so so slow. Doesn't know the league well enough to compensate for it like Benno does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
I'm not disappointed we signed him, was worth the shot, but surprised waterford have.
Speed and nothing else. He'll get found out quickly over there.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
For a couple of months at Bray a few seasons ago Connolly really did look great, I remember he was frighteningly good at Richmond one night essentially playing as a striker. Between the start of the following season and his move to Dundalk he seems to have just descended into being a pace merchant, and not even a particularly effective one at that. Strange one but all the best to him.
I would say I find it amazing not surprising that Waterford signed Delaney, also not sure he was worth the shot actually at Cork, he must have been on decent money, and he turned 37 I think shortly after coming over, not to mention at that time they desperately needed a striker, not another defender.
Connolly was never consistent enough for Dundalk, and was an unused sub for the cup final, yet he had some decent games and most fans encouraged him. However and like Mountney, he never nailed down that right side, and it continued to be probably the only weak link Dundalk had, hopefully Kelly will offer a lot more.
Good luck to Connolly though, this is his second stint across remember, he was with Ipswich under McCarthy previously.
Interesting to note, the two ‘big money’ signings of LOI summer 2017 are now in lower leagues in England, Sadlier and Connolly.
What's Waterford's squad looking like at the moment? Off the top of my head I get the impression that there's still a lot of work to be done, though I know in some cases they've gone about re-signing players quite quietly so I'm not sure if their numbers are quite as bare as I think they are.
Young enough to be interested in other peoples opinionsQuote:
Originally Posted by dundalkfc10
You appear to be upset about something
I'm not sure there isn't a footballer in there somewhere. He looked really good for his first few games. I remember oohing and aahing over some of his passes in his first game.Quote:
Originally Posted by micls
I think he may have suffered from a similar issue to Liam Miller when he signed in thinking he could walk the league without trying and didn't have the right attitude when it wasn't going his way. With a full preseason he may well be a decent player for Waterford. I suspect he will get boos at Turners Cross this season.
Dundalk extracting a transfer fee for Dylan Connolly is video game stuff. Unbelievable. Hes a one trick pony who has been found out and somehow that gets him a a move to League One? He may well do OK there to start as his pace causes problems before defenders figure him out. Dundalk must be ****ing themselves laughing at this.
In the same division too, though Doncaster have higher expectations than Wimbledon at the moment. The crazy thing is Sadlier is clearly the better player and yet Dundalk have clawed back some of their original investment. Best of luck to the both of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
Clearly there's potential in Connolly- he's unbelievably quick but can lack composure. He was frustrating at Dundalk but he caused consternation on a regular basis and must be one of the most fouled players in the league per minute played. I think he had 2 players booked against Larnaca, he was fouled for the free for Dundalk's goal in the 2017 cup final and for some reason he caused absolute panic in Shamrock Rovers, one memorable game in Tallaght he was taken down six or seven times.
I'm not sure he's what you need when you're battling for your life in the trenches of League One though.
I've never been a fan of Connolly and even when he was at Bray I called out how limited a player he was when facing decent defenders. There was a game at Turners Cross where rather than try to beat a man he kept running into space until he found his way over to the other wing before I think running it out of play.Quote:
Originally Posted by seand
Maybe he did well against Larnaca because they hadn't seen too much of him but I don't think he did much damage against City for Bray or Dundalk and I'd be surprised if he did much against Dundalk while with Bray either. I wouldn't read too much into causing panic against Shamrock Rovers of recent years. Stephen Bradleys teams aren't known for having cool heads under pressure.
undisclosed is usually code for a bag of balls and a jersey :)Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
Seriously though you'd have to wish him the best i felt sorry for him towards the end as his confidence looked shot.
He might surprise people now in a new envioronment
Is that what ye got for Burke.....Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Almost every LOI transfer is for an undisclosed fee, with rumours and 'inside info' filling in the blanks.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk
checked on here says £315 sterling , but i take your point re a lot of transfers etc.
Thats an estimate. It was officially an undisclosed fee as per the announcements. Standard practice.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Bag of balls is probably a fair trade for Connolly though.
Right up here wihh Tom Coughlan getting 50k for Denis Behan. Incredible business.
Connolly has one good game against us for Bray, so much so that Horgan got sent off for taking him down after he got away from him one too many times on the wing. I’m convinced Kenny only signed him due to that performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
I’m delighted he’s gone and shocked that another club is paying a fee for him.
It's make more sense if he was in as a player/coach at this stage. His performances at Cork werent at such a level that a lub like Waterford who want to kick on again this season would sign him. His experience would be of value in a young squad. It was a signing that was worrying for Cork's rivals at the time if it didnt work out as hoped so certainly worth a shot at the time! Not so much now. Bennet is vastly superior considering the experience that Delaney had at the top end of the English game.Quote:
Originally Posted by micls