Kits 2019

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Originally Posted by Dalymountrower

There is a top class Paeds Department in OLOL , which I would say could do with some support from the biggest town in the North East. Drumcar badly needs support as do CAMH and ambulance services in Co Louth.
First the link with Malahide United and now the link to a Dublin hospital,! great sense of community or what?

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I have my doubts if a Paediatric Unit in a neighbouring town or St John of Gods in Drumcar (especially with it's recent controversies) would make for a more appropriate community partner simply on the basis that they are geographically closer than the National Children's Hospital.

There is an existing established relationship with Dundalk FC and players / staff most recently visited Temple Street Children’s Hospital in December
https://www.dundalkfc.com/temple-str...ospital-visit/

The cause is excellent and well deserving of support.

I hear no criticism in Dundalk that the National Children's Hospital will be the beneficiary of this initiative, and expect that it will be well supported in the community.

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Originally Posted by Dalymountrower

Questioning it because of the tangential connection between your community and a charity relatively unrelated to that community.Am all for clubs linking up with charities,Derry did it with their first team shirt 're local addiction services,Bohs and Rovers did it on the pink jersey derby games for cancer.
Granted , neither of those have the "aww" factor of a children's hospital.

BTW Chidrens (national) neurosurgical services in Beaumont are currently fundraising for a parents waiting room in the hospital, deatails from Beaumont Foundation.

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How is this a connection between your community and a charity? Is it because people in Phibsborough and Tallaght get cancer? As do people nationwide. People in Dundalk use Temple Street as do people nationwide.

The National Children's Hospital is in Tallaght.

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Originally Posted by mcgonigle

How is this a connection between your community and a charity? Is it because people in Phibsborough and Tallaght get cancer? As do people nationwide. People in Dundalk use Temple Street as do people nationwide.

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Stop embarrassing yourself.

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Originally Posted by Dalymountrower

Stop embarrassing yourself.

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Another great point.

Explain how Bohs pink jersey initiative is connected to the Phibsborough community but this initiative is not connected to the Dundalk community?

Oh and BTW the fact that you're even questioning a charity related initiative is the real embarrassment here.

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Originally Posted by Dalymountrower

The National Children's Hospital is in Tallaght.

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Thanks for the correction, although I'm sure you knew I was referring to Temple Street Children's University Hospital.

When checking the full title I notice the website description of it being an acute paediatric hospital that cares for 145,000 sick children annually. I don't like the jersey, but I'll certainly support the cause.

I think it's a little sad that you appear eager to be repetitively critical of an initiative that will raise money for such a good cause.

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Originally Posted by Ezeikial

Thanks for the correction, although I'm sure you knew I was referring to Temple Street Children's University Hospital.

When checking the full title I notice the website description of it being an acute paediatric hospital that cares for 145,000 sick children annually. I don't like the jersey, but I'll certainly support the cause.

I think it's a little sad that you appear eager to be repetitively critical of an initiative that will raise money for such a good cause.

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Just repeatedly making the point that linking in to a popular , well supported charitable foundation,( rather than a lower profile charity closer to your community) two counties awa,y smacks of virtue signalling a la Smashie and Nicey .

Good luck with the jersey anyway, guaranteed purple patch.

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Originally Posted by Dalymountrower

Just repeatedly making the point that linking in to a popular , well supported charitable foundation,( rather than a lower profile charity closer to your community) two counties awa,y smacks of virtue signalling a la Smashie and Nicey .

Good luck with the jersey anyway, guaranteed purple patch.

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Presumably you will be boycotting this on a point of principle then.

The moral high ground must be a cold and lonely place

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Originally Posted by Ezeikial

Presumably you will be boycotting this on a point of principle then.

The moral high ground must be a cold and lonely place

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At a time when much play is made of clubs involvement in their local community is important to the development of the game I don’t think asking if there were charities closer to home is so wrong. Nobody doubts the brilliant work done by Temple Street but, for example, there is brilliant work done in OLOL and it’s nearer Dundalks base (I bet every Dundalk supporter has had reason to visit OLOL at some time).
Not criticizing DFC for the excellent iniative just some thinking they missed an opportunity.

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Originally Posted by marinobohs

At a time when much play is made of clubs involvement in their local community is important to the development of the game I don’t think asking if there were charities closer to home is so wrong. Nobody doubts the brilliant work done by Temple Street but, for example, there is brilliant work done in OLOL and it’s nearer Dundalks base (I bet every Dundalk supporter has had reason to visit OLOL at some time).
Not criticizing DFC for the excellent iniative just some thinking they missed an opportunity.

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But crucially, it's in Drogheda :sick:

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Originally Posted by marinobohs

At a time when much play is made of clubs involvement in their local community is important to the development of the game I don’t think asking if there were charities closer to home is so wrong. Nobody doubts the brilliant work done by Temple Street but, for example, there is brilliant work done in OLOL and it’s nearer Dundalks base (I bet every Dundalk supporter has had reason to visit OLOL at some time).
Not criticizing DFC for the excellent iniative just some thinking they missed an opportunity.

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I realise that this is completely off football topic, and I will say no more. Lots of deserving charities in Co Louth who could do with a boost to their profile, I saw a report that County Louth locals had volunteered over 45,000 hours to charitable and community activities locally in a year, so there is clearly as a real sense of CSR among the local population anyway. No idea how much the jersey sales will raise , but I would have thought that the publicity boost for a smaller local charity or charities would have been proportionately huge for them.
Given that Dundalk play their European games in the Tallaght community, it may have been a nice gesture to support the National Childrens Hospital Foundation?:wink:

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Originally Posted by Ezeikial

Presumably you will be boycotting this on a point of principle then.

The moral high ground must be a cold and lonely place

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It'd be a bit odd if a Bohs fan bought a "limited edition, never done before in Ireland*" Dundalk Jersey or scored a cup goal for them now wouldn't it so I'd hardly call it a boycott.

*may or may not be factually correct but let's just say it anyway.

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Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop

It'd be a bit odd if a Bohs fan bought a "limited edition, never done before in Ireland*" Dundalk Jersey or scored a cup goal for them now wouldn't it so I'd hardly call it a boycott.

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Yes, but perhaps not so odd for the Bohs fan to be so vexed about the choice of the charity, that he rattles off a half dozen posts complaining it

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Originally Posted by ArFella

But crucially, it's in Drogheda :sick:

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And Temple street is in Dublin ;) at least Drogheda is the same county. Anyway, best of luck with the fundraising it is a very good cause.

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Originally Posted by marinobohs

At a time when much play is made of clubs involvement in their local community is important to the development of the game I don’t think asking if there were charities closer to home is so wrong. Nobody doubts the brilliant work done by Temple Street but, for example, there is brilliant work done in OLOL and it’s nearer Dundalks base (I bet every Dundalk supporter has had reason to visit OLOL at some time).
Not criticizing DFC for the excellent iniative just some thinking they missed an opportunity.

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Silly question to ask as everyone, apart from you knows that there are no charities between Temple Street and Dundalk, or within an 80km radius of Dundalk.

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Originally Posted by GCdfc

Silly question to ask as everyone, apart from you knows that there are no charities between Temple Street and Dundalk, or within an 80km radius of Dundalk.

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WTF ? That post is a whole special kind off loopy 😁

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Originally Posted by marinobohs

WTF ? That post is a whole special kind off loopy 😁

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You can't expect me to respond to crazy posts with sensible ones. They just wouldn't sink in :silly:

This whole argument is embarrassing to be fair.

Club raises money for a good charity and there's complaints about this, because it's not local to them?

That's a pretty pathetic argument.

I've contributed to several fundraisers for Temple Street Childrens Hospital in the past in Donegal. I'll remember to tell those raising the money the next time to go cop themselves on and support a local charity instead :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

This whole argument is embarrassing to be fair.

Club raises money for a good charity and there's complaints about this, because it's not local to them?

That's a pretty pathetic argument.

I've contributed to several fundraisers for Temple Street Childrens Hospital in the past in Donegal. I'll remember to tell those raising the money the next time to go cop themselves on and support a local charity instead :rolleyes:

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Temple Street doesnt provide primary care, it is secondary or tertiary care so it has a specific regional and national focus. so the people criticizing this really need to stop being the personification of everything wrong with Irish people

I know I shouldn't but..... the Dundalk initiative would be the equivalent of Harps doing a shirt sponsorship deal with what formally is your regional Paeds Department in Galway rather than lets say the Letterkenny or even Sligo Paediatric Departments.That's clearly not going to happen?
The support by any football club for any paediatric service or any worthy charity is obviously a good thing, and people can also make their own private decisions about their own private donations.The reality is that there is a certain cachet with being associated with one charity over another and often seems to be asssociated with an air of self congratulation.Whether that's the case with the Dundalk "media event" is a matter of opinion.
In conclusion, I am bad , all charities are good, Dundalk FC are wonderful and CUH Temple Street is a national treasure.

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Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

This whole argument is embarrassing to be fair.

Club raises money for a good charity and there's complaints about this, because it's not local to them?

That's a pretty pathetic argument.

I've contributed to several fundraisers for Temple Street Childrens Hospital in the past in Donegal. I'll remember to tell those raising the money the next time to go cop themselves on and support a local charity instead :rolleyes:

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There IS no argument. Everyone acknowledged Temple Street is a very worthy cause. There was a very reasonable suggestion that a more local cause might have been considered and some Dundalk fans lose the head - one even spouting gibberish.
Great cause, well done Dundalk, everything they do is beyond question.

And they said the other one was a dundalk jersey...

https://twitter.com/CorkCityFC/statu...891836930?s=19

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Originally Posted by patrickccfc

And they said the other one was a dundalk jersey...

https://twitter.com/CorkCityFC/statu...891836930?s=19

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Great April 1st tweet.

Nice shirt though.

Yeah I was thinking ah here a fourth jersey really? Then I saw the hashtag.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4XLupsXsAEw1mS.jpg


Well done to Bill Carrigan who raised €2,929 for Temple St Children's Hospital on by completing a 53km run.

He's going to get some abuse from dalymountrower and others Bohs fans when it's revealed he is from Kildare and ignored Naas General Hospital

https://twitter.com/TescoIrl/status/1118524196009709568

No in patient paediatric service in Naas.Anway he comfortably from within the Pale, so no prob!

Are we going to start posting every fundraiser that happens for Temple Street now?

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Originally Posted by Dalymountrower

No in patient paediatric service in Naas.Anway he comfortably from within the Pale, so no prob!

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No inpatient paediatric service in Dundalk, we are comfortably within the Pale so no prob!

Big Paeds unit in county Louth., which your club opt not to support.Then again unless you are a director of peak 6 or whatever they are called this week , you have no say in whateveryourclub does.

The posts from Bohs supporters complaining about the choice of charity are just weird. It's heading towards Gemma O'Doherty Twitter posts weird. Too many chemtrails in Phibsborough?

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Originally Posted by Dalymountrower

Big Paeds unit in county Louth., which your club opt not to support.Then again unless you are a director of peak 6 or whatever they are called this week , you have no say in whateveryourclub does.

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It's a paediatric assessment unit. It does great work for bumps and scrapes and minor illnesses. However, life threatening conditions that require specialised and expensive treatment are referred on to Dublin, usually to Temple Street.

Anyone in the Dundalk area who had had a sick child will be very familiar with Temple Street.

The treatment offered there is at the cutting edge of medicine and requires constant investment. As the State chooses to waste money building white elephants, hospital such a Temple Street look to the public for investment.

Dundalk FC were only to happy to assist in raising funds for a hospital that provides acute care for children with life threatening conditions in Dundalk (and many other parts of the country). There are, of course, other excellent acute hospital in Dublin, but to compare Temple Street to the paediatric assessment unit in Drogheda is a fallacious comparison.

This thread has to contain one of the most petty series of posts I've seen yet on foot.ie.

Is it a turf-war tribal thing on behalf of some Bohs fans? Do they consider Temple Street their turf? I am struggling to find other explanations.

Its not a 'big' paeds unit in fairness. There is a simple answer to the choice and that being that a member of staff at Oriel Park had unfortunately reason for a child to need to go to Temple Street and hence the visit by the players and subsequent choice as a charity. There are lots of worthy charities and I have no doubts that if it were Louth Hospice that would have sadly been the needed organisation then they could well have been the choice. But that aside you only have to do a quick google search on the number of malpractice incidents at OLOL in Drogheda to see why there is a general meh attitude locally. From Neary to Shine and multiple large lawsuits also it is a place that does not have the good will of people in the locality. It is an organisation that suffer badlys from poor governance and accountability, it must be catching- this will in all liklihood reach the news one day but the books are bing cooked too... i had better say 'allegedly' where preventable deaths are being recorded as complications of certain illness rather than the principle issue. This is (supposedly)well known, will hit the fan, and is distorting obvious trends that need intervention directly by Dept of Health. While I'm at it how about nurses heading off to do shopping while on duty and colleagues covering, when they return the next nurse heads off and so on - this is happening, not gossip with an agenda. When whistleblowing did happen a whole load of files were destroyed. When efforts to rotate staff were made to put an end to this messing the Union was rolled out. Lack of rotation means deskilling in other disciplines and if rotation does happen well errors can occur. There is no dedicated fulltime training department in the entire hospital either so new protocols get rolled out to the ED for example but there is a piecemeal process to train staff in the new protocol. Top of the heap often with people on trollies, waiting lists for basic diagnostic - last june 2018 I got an appointment for an ECG, no joke, for July 2019!! Thank goodness I had health insurance but many dont. I am not surprised that morale is in the basement among staff either.

On the Louth County Hospital the people in Dundalk in the past raised hundreds of thousands of £ to purchase a CT Scanner to be based in Dundalk. It was never switched on, staff were never deployed to use it and it was eventually dusted off and moved to Drogheda anway to replace their kit that clapped out. Once bitten and all that.

So Dalymountrower, there is a whole lot more to consider than you may be aware of. I will accept that as a PR job for the club to do something with a national childrens hospital rather than local/regional and with it probably the hope was for national coverage of the initiative. If you want to be cynical be cynical on that.

It was a personal choice by the players based on their experience. There are many worthy charities but some are closer to the heart than others and you may not know the reason for a particular choice, nor should there be need for justification. Its impossible to cover every worthy cause. Indeed the club and supporters raised a big chunk of 100k for a young girl who needs specialist care in the US so dont think that worthy causes local to Dundalk are being neglected either!

Sometimes you hope rumours aren't true.

https://www.independent.ie/regionals...-38525976.html

Umbro have been awful for supporter supply of rep shirts and kit for Dundalk supporters in the past.And that was before everyone in the town jumped on the bandwagon!
They're next to useless in this regard imo.
They design some nice gear but then can't supply the demand for it.