Topical with the recent discussion - underage revolt against summer soccer
https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-38060158.html
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Topical with the recent discussion - underage revolt against summer soccer
https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-38060158.html
Interesting article . If the Dublin leagues can’t make it work why are the Desmond league going to be different .
Perhaps in mayo where there appears to be only 2 sports ie Soccer and Gaelic you have a chance but Cork , Galway , Dublin where you have 3 if not 4 codes been played at a high level you really are splitting the player pool very thinly sometimes getting the best athletes in a parish but more often losing them altogether . Of the top ten sportsmen in your parish how many will play soccer first ??
Yes it would seem that all soccer being played during the summer dead, but i would tell any league's who aare in favour of SSQuote:
Originally Posted by Langerdan007
You really don't like the idea of summer football it appears.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abbeyman
I'd rather have a small pool of football first people than a squad that will leave you for dead at the throw-in of a sliothar.
Football in Ireland needs to stop running from the gah.
Bang on Shearer.
exactly!!Quote:
Originally Posted by shearer
We heard the same arguments here in Mayo when i think waass the first league to start playing SS, it was the best thing that we did but u also have to have the right at the top of the league management, that insists that every club hasQuote:
Originally Posted by Shearer
proper pitch
dressing rooms for the 2 teams and referees
a fence for a perimeter around the 4 sides
Remember going to matches, the pitch was a farmers field that the club would get the use of, normally in ne corner a saamall fella would not be seen taking a corner. U togged in and out in the car.
One of the downsides would be back in the winter socer days u would go back to their pub after the match and u would get sanswiches afterards, now some of it would go to the ddrink driving these days, but these days no one goes back,
League looking for clubs to bail them out it looks like, general meeting called for next Wednesday in the Rathkeale House to "work out the Abbeyfeale / referees situation"
Assumably they got nowhere at their own committee meeting
That’s the most ridiculous statement I have ever seen. You would swear that the league is responsible for this. You might enlighten us as to what exactly they could and should have doneQuote:
Originally Posted by Cruyff
Just make a decision, one way or the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazza29
Anything to get the league going ahead again.
It wouldn't surprise me if they throw it open to the floor for suggestions...
This issue has nothing whatsoever to do with any other club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cruyff
Why else would the league be bringing every club into it unless they were looking for help.
If anyone else has a different interpretation I'm all ears....
What do you propose they do?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazza29
I don't see the ridiculousness of it. Calling a general meeting about the Abbeyfeale issue and having it open to every club reads exactly like the league haven't a clue, haven't any good ideas and are hoping someone will sort it for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazza29
I don't think it's the type of issue that should be opened to the floor, a decision just needs to be made and stuck with.
Between Saturday May 4 and Friday May 10 there are five Abbeyfeale fixtures to be confirmed and that's without mentioning Abbeyfeale A's Desmond Cup Quarter Final, the playing of the semi final (whether they be in it or not), the Premier Division League Cup Quarter final and probably more.
So for the league to, in a sense, throw their hat at it and ask can somebody else fix it is a bit pathetic
I would say they’re calling the meeting to let everyone know what their plan is. As long as they get everyone’s season back on track and have a plan clubs can work off for the remaining few weeks, it would be good. At this stage whatever needs to happen to get the season wrapped up needs to be done, it’s been dragging on far too long.
I initially thought the same thing, but when you read the wording it doesn't necessarily suggest that there's a plan in place at this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Griffo
"work out the Abbeyfeale / referees situation"
This wording suggests there's still plenty to "work out."
I hope you're right though and they've a decision made and it's sorted or at least present a plan of action.
But, waiting until the middle of next week to tell us would be fairly casual given the urgency with which the rest of the league would like to see the issue dealt with and at this point moved on from...
The words "work out" weren't used as it turns out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cruyff
The word "discuss" was used.
My original information was slightly off, so it is a discussion rather than a briefing.
Just wanted to correct that...
You'd think that they'd hold the meeting a lot sooner than that, like tonight or tomorrow night. You'd have to assume also that none of those games involving Abbey over the weekend will take place.
My thoughts exactlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Johnnie C
My information is that refs only meeting tonight to vote on their official course of action. League won’t know outcome of that officially until Friday. Bank holiday weekend so earliest meeting date was probably Tuesday but Liverpool playing so Wednesday seems perfect. It’s also my understanding that over the past 2 weeks the FAI and Referees association have told the refs that the punishment for the 2 individuals is acceptable and to go back reffing, however a few of our refereeing heroes see this situation at a glorious opportunity to hog the limelight and hold up the full league. Now, what exactly can the league do in this scenario other than consult the clubs. Surely people aren’t expecting for Abbey to be expelled
Pushing out the date of a meeting to avoid clashing with an English football team's game against a Spanish football team.
Literally everything that's wrong with football in Ireland, Jesus wept.
Oh My God, do you think while at the meeting the Desmond League Clubs should ask for a place in next seasons champions league as well. U are very opinionated as usual, from that, can we take it that u have gone to more than 3 games this yearQuote:
Originally Posted by Shearer
Any games I've been to I've commented on, spend most of my time at League of Ireland games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazza29
You've attacked me on here several times, if you've a problem I suggest you private message me.
”attacked me” give it a break will you. I’m actually just going to ignore all your posts from now on so I won’t upset you. By the way, it was you that replied to my post originallyQuote:
Originally Posted by Shearer
Spot on with this although we can't be certain it's the reason why the meeting isn't on next Tuesday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shearer
Don' t know the situation, the question is, is their a majority of referees in favour of their dispute if not and enough ref. not in favour put them down for reffing the games left in the league to finish the campaign and try and sort it out in the close seaon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazza29
hopefully it will be sorted sooner rather than later. I said it at start of whole shambles,no one likes to c refs abused/assaulted but punishment was giving by the league so accept it and move on..if league give in ,will every punishment be questioned by a ref and go start crying to there 3/4 man click at the top..grow a pair and move on please for the sake of every club/player in league..according to one of the mature referees, a few refs had issues with that particular team and management in abbey and this maybe reason for dragging it out.. this meeting will be interesting next wk, heard dey cud not get a venue so noting to do with champs league...
Shearer, have you been to any St Itas game this year? Are they any good?
There is no way Abbey will be thrown out. I feel sorry for Ballingarry youths in all of this, they were beaten in one cup final and are hoping to make amends by getting to another. They've been waiting far too long to play this game. And people wonderwhy team s are struggling for numbers at junior level when this nonsense goes on. I think abbey should be heavily fined, and thrown out of the youths cup as an example.
Should be a cracker tonight.
Is there a possibility Abbeyfeale could withdraw from the Desmond league and join the Kerry league. Castleisland, Tralee and Listowel are all on there doorstep so traveling wouldn’t be much of an issue
Not the worst idea in the world . The Kerry league top division is a good league . Standard in that division would be higher with 7/8 decent teams .
Last night a youthful broadford were impressive in their 3-1 cup semi win over rathkeale and district FC .take a good team to beat them if they repeat that .
Abbeyman why the dig at Rathkeale? Have ye not learned a lesson with giving digs back there??
Some result for Broadford, they'll fancy their chances against whoever they play.
Rathkeale and District FC, quality...Quote:
Originally Posted by Abbeyman
In all fairness, you wouldn't exactly need to go through the Broadford team with a fine tooth comb to find a share of outsiders.
I wasn't at it but if I had to guess I'd say at least half of the players used last night would have played most if not all of their underage football and probably a lot of junior at other clubs before they ever played for Broadford.
Not that I care, but perspective is important
Is there facts to back that upQuote:
Originally Posted by Cruyff
10 of the 16 used all played their underage with Broadford
4 youths played last night
of the remaining 6, 2 have have been with the club for over 10 years and 2 more for over 5
Facts are facts
As I specified, I was guessing about 50%, the figures you quoted add up to 37.5%, which I'd say would be fairly comparable with Rathkeale.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Enforcer
Go ahead and sue me for the 12.5% if you like.
Even though one of the youths that more than likely played last night is only there with 18 months but whatever, as I said it makes no odds to me.
My original point was that I'd say Rathkeale haven't many more outsiders playing for them than would be the norm for any of the teams competing for trophies usually.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cruyff
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Any update on the meeting last night ? Surely Abbey games go ahead this weekend?
On tonight I think. You'd hope so anyway, there's 6 Abbeyfeale fixtures between May 10-19.Quote:
Originally Posted by Desmond18
The refs & who ever is leading this vendetta must surely for the good of the league cop themselves on !!! Will the league even finish at this stage ? Hopefully its all sorted tonight,Quote:
Originally Posted by Shearer
The refs are shambolic at this stage, they had a lot of support at the start and rightly so after what happened, however their actions have now interfered with a lot of clubs and players from outside of Abbeyfeale, and anyone that I have talked to in the past number of weeks feels that the season should now be halted, and the referees given their own marching orders for the disruption and inconvenience that they have caused. An individual admitted to both offences, are the referees that stupid that they believe that people admit to criminal offences for the sake of it. It’s ironic that they can be so sure that there is a 2nd player but never actually got a look at the individual. They are the only ones paid, if you get paid for something then you have a job to do, the job is not been done so get ridQuote:
Originally Posted by Desmond18