there is allready 30 mill for the transfer budget and the 50 mill is from cris samulsons sports fund , that will go to redeveloping goodison and clearing the debtsQuote:
Originally Posted by ciaran76
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there is allready 30 mill for the transfer budget and the 50 mill is from cris samulsons sports fund , that will go to redeveloping goodison and clearing the debtsQuote:
Originally Posted by ciaran76
What they sold for means nothing, those prices were paid at a time when the market was gone crazy. All the top strikers being sold these days for less than Franny Jeffers proves that! Where are they now anyway? Bench warmers at crap clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
Firstly, you're referring to Houlliers boring Liverpool, which is just a lazy attempt at a slag. Liverpool have played some superb football under Benitez, did you not watch us make mince meat of you at Anfield, with an understrength side to boot? Secondly, Everton fans know that you're not on the same planet as Liverpool, could you honestly see an Everton side win their way to a CL Quarter Final against Juve? lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
Liverpool are £80m in debt? Really, where did you get those figures einstein? Leeds Utd are'nt even that much in debt :rolleyes: Liverpool have a consistant debt of between £28 - £30m, as their spending is balanced against an income which is one of the top 10 in world football........stop talking sh1teQuote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
The only problem there is, of the £40m spent this season, nearly £30m of it has been out of action for most of the season, i.e. Cisse (£14m), Alonso (£10.5m), Josemi (£2m) all long term, with Garcia and Morientes in and out with injuries. Then there's Kewell, Gerrard missed the first 3 months, Baros has missed months etc - I'd like to see how Everton would cope with equivelant injuries, without having any recognised strikers, having to play inexperienced kids, having to do without their key players. I'd actually like to see how Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea would cope, cos I don't think they would.Quote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
Benitez has worked a miracle so far to get to a cup final, a CL quarter and in contention for CL qualification - wait till he has a full squad next year and a few more top signings ;)
By the way, where's Dillo? That blue tide of his seems to have turned to a ripple...... :p :p
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Originally Posted by anto1208
There is no money from any Sports fund. If you do believe that money is there then fair play to you.If all that money was there do yoyu think Everton would have one of the smallest squads in the Prem. ?
Chris Samuelson is as dodgy as €2 note.
Not 1 penny of his money is in the Goodison coffers. Look at his history he said Everton would have the money in Autumn last year ! Then at Christmas then a few days after Christmas. The money never appeared.
Oh and if the money does appear then the whole Everton board has to ratify the money coming in.Can't see that happening.
Just because you seen this magic money coming to Goodison on their offical site doesn't make it true i am afraid.
If you want to see what Kenwright has said in the past year and what has actually happened you should look here.
http://www.billyliar.info/ The man is a joke :mad:
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Originally Posted by anto1208
Anto i am not picking on you here i know it might seem like it but Rooney was sold for 21 million. The rest was dependant on Cup wins in Europe etc etc and caps.I doubt Everton will get anything near 30 millin for him. Oh and Ball wasn't near 8 million as you prob. know Rangers and Everton came to an agreement just around X-mas time because Rangers couldn't afford to pay Everton the final segment of the tranfer fund.
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Originally Posted by ciaran76
dont worry i dont mind people that can make decent arguements unlike the liverpool injury list stuff 4to the floor comes out with .but rooney's deal is 24 mill cash 10 last summer 10 this summer then 10 the following summer and 4 the last year , and upto 5 mill on performance plus a 25% sell on fee . it could be close to 30 mill allthough i am rounding up the figures , final fee paid for ball was 7.5 mill the final 1/2 mill everton have waved so he could continue to play for rangers after reaching his appearence limit
about the size of the squad the transfer budget is for this summer so it would nt really affect the squad this year , and in fairness to bill he allways finds some money from some where its not like people are queing up to invest over the last few years , and this year our budget is 30 mill not bad for a team riddled with debt and nearly relegated last year ,its a huge turn around , if you dont count beattie who has started only 2 games we spent 2.4 mill ,
but yea chris sam. is dodgy but look at the tai guy looking to invest in liverpool or roman at chelsea hardly model business men ?
yawn yawn same story even with 30 mill worth of players on the bench that leaves 10 mill worth fit ( everton didnt even spend 10 mill ) . even at the height of liverpools injury list they still had more fully fit players than everton who have a squad of 15 first team players . reconised strikers !!!!! bent is the only striker we have bar big dunc but he is injured !!!!!! key players we also lost rooney and graveson they are key players .Quote:
Originally Posted by 4totheflo
How many strikers do you need ? Just the 1 you lump everything up to, so why buy Beattie when there is no need for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
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Originally Posted by razor
no you see it was pointed out to me that since liverpool have had no reconised striker all season because of injury this was why liverpool were in 5th , so i pointed out that everton have only had bent yet they are in 4th .so the injury list excuse is rubbish
But if Liverpool had 2 fit strikers they would play them, Everton would not. The reason Everton are 4th is cos there system was working pretty well, credit to the manager, it has now broken down so maybe time to change tic tacs. I mean if Bryan Robson is after figuring it out then its deffo time to change.Quote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
no we had to change to 4141 this year coz rooney and radsinski left and we were left with bent ,dunc cambell and chadwick . cambell and chadwick have now also left so that leave 2 strikers one of which is carring an injury and cant play 90 mins (plus he wouldnt last 90 mins with out getting sent off :D ),Quote:
Originally Posted by razor
we have used mcfadden and osman up front with bent to good effect but faddy is now injured .
but looks like the kid vaughan could get his start v palace he is 16 has a bag of goals in the reserves 2 goals in 2 games for eng under 17's . we just cant stop breading these wonder kids we have 4 more coming through including a 10 year old who in the youth team (under 15 )
Why would they stay ? They look a the formation Moyes has been playing and know they ain't gonna get a start.Quote:
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By the way, where's Dillo? That blue tide of his seems to have turned to a ripple...... :p :p[/QUOTE]
I'm here! Don't you worry. ;)
Everton will beat Palace at the weekend while the best use can hope for is a point away to City. The gap will extend to three which means Rafa will remain BeneathUs. :)
last year we played 442 with TWO strikers up front , when they left we had to change to 1 up front coz we only had 1 striker . i know its hard to understand for a liverpool fan .Quote:
Originally Posted by razor
If you keep contradicting yourself then tis no wonder i'm confused. First you said ye changed to 1up front when Shrek and Radzinski left and now it has only happened since ye lost Chadwick and Campbell, make up your mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
no i said that we changed after rooney and rads left , because after they left we had only 4 strikers then i added that 2 of the 4 strikers left have now also left the club . i dont rate cambell chadwick or even dunc as premiership quality strikers so that leave 1 striker .Quote:
Originally Posted by razor
Remember, lads, we had 12 first team players out, against Juve, and we still won, god knows how we'd do with a full-strength side. :)
Will he?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dillo
After winning 4 games in 4 months, Everton have 7 games to hold onto a one-point lead over us to stop us getting 4th. With games against Arsenal, and the red-and-blacks to come, it's all over bar the shouting. Even if the Liver Bird hasn't started singing yet, she's busy warming up her vocal chords. A point on Saturday will move us into 4th, on GD. Everton are spent. The Red Army are about to take over. :) :)
I'd still be a tad wary of making such comments. Liverpool players have shown they can raise the bar in CL games this season but then go and put in some very sub standard League performances afterwards. God is good and Baros is suspended so Pool must be in with a shout, once Robbie lad doesn't spoil the party.
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Originally Posted by mypost
i cant see what she has to sign about about ye re season has been another complete disaster last year ye finished 30 points behind the leaders then spent 40 mill only to go an finish 30 points behind again this year .ye jump around at the prospect of scraping ye er way past everton who finished 17th lost 2 major player spent 2.4 mill and were tipped to go down !!
Rumour has it that Real Madrid are ready to loan out Danish superstar Tommy Gravesen for a year. If Everton reach the CL Grav will surely be eager to come back and resume playing in the middle of the park with the toffees. I for one would love to see him return. Everton are also reported to be interested in Robbie Keane following his troublesome spell with Martin Jol and co at spurs. Robbie would prove a great addition to the blues and it would be great to see him link up with Kilbane and Carsley at Goodison. Keano as we all know is a tremendous talent and given time David Moyes would surely mould him into an even greater player.
What a disasterous move that would be for Ireland. Mould him into an even greater player? Are you on drugs? Robbie would be running around playing head tennis as the ball is hoofed up and down the pitch. How could Everton make Robbie a better palyer if they don't even play football? Will you go away for the love and honour....... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dillo
as i predicted our new 16 year old wonder kid got his start and broke 4 records .
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He should of had 2 goals ! ;) Not a bad way to start your 1st game al the sa :) me.
again rubbish from a liverpool fan , maybe a move to everton would improve him the way its worked for kilbane or cahill moving to everton , or perhaps it would be best going to liverpool like babb and kewell collymore heskey etc etc .Quote:
Originally Posted by 4tothefloor
slag our "long ball style" ( this proves you have nt watched us all year coz we dont play long ball anymore ) all you want we won 4 nil while liverpool got beatin by man city
ive been raving about this kids for ages , and the best thing is he isnt the best in the acadamy we still have the duo of hopkins and fowler to come through plus another 4 to 6 decent players , our reserve squad now has 13 under 18's in itQuote:
Originally Posted by ciaran76
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Yeah i have read and know a few people who have seen them and rate them quite highly. But i wouldn't look too deep into any reserve team players. If you look at the likes of M.Branch and Cadamateri who were outstanding at reserve level but didn't seem to be able to cross over into the Prem. too well.
I don't think Rooney ever played a reserve game for Everton ?
According to Sky Sports last week, the three teams that play the most number of long balls were:
3. Bolton
2. Man Utd
1. Liverpool
However, I do think that Everton will do well to finish in a UEFA spot next year, as I just can't see them keeping this form over an entire season without a Gravesen-esque player to push them on.
would you look at that looks like 4to the floor slagging evertons long ball style has embarresed himself yet again :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan K
well our midfield is mainly newcomers artetta , cahill , and osman its there first year in prem football and they are finally starting to click , it all depends if bolton can catch us to get 4th spot , but it still wont affect our transfer budget of 30 mill , considering what moyes done this year with 2.4 mill he should do well with 30 mill , plus the young acadamy players are unreal it will be similar to the situation utd had with all the youngsters coming through
According to Sky Sports last week, Jose Mourinho ate an egg and 2 slices of toast for breakfast..........FFS :rolleyes: I'd like to see a source for those stats. It must be said though that there is a major difference between a long, accurate sweeping pass from someone like Alonso\Gerrard and a big hoof to nothing\Dunc the drunk from Alan Stubbs....
stop you dont know what your talking about it was a slice of toast and a cup of tea , this is how nasty rumours get started :mad: ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by 4tothefloor
The rumour was humble pie, but apparantly Mourinho has never tasted it in his life. Here's hoping it happens sooner rather than later, starting tonight in Munich.Quote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
gap to close back to one point by sunday?
are you sure you know liverpools record after champs league games !!!.
plus its only coz everton have the weekend off to put there feet up
What a result!! That man Duncan Ferguson once again. Three points at home to Birmingham saturday and we'll surely have champions league football next season at Goodison under the genius that is David Moyes. I won't get carried away just yet but this result is a huge one- both mathamatically and physologically.
Congratulations on beating the red-and-blacks last night, although you only won because they didn't give a monkeys. Once they can't win the title, they don't care whether they win or lose. Don't get carried away at having a game in hand on us either, it's at Arsenal!! :D Home banker!!
Great results for both merseyside teams last night but it's still advantage toffees with only a few games left,the 'pool will have to win the Champs league to condemn Everton to the uefa cup even if they finish fourth. :D
Everton be happy with any kind of european football next season to distract them from the relegation battle that they'll be back in. :cool: :p
It really even is Evertons now no question. Even though I myself personally have been resigned to the fact for a while now.
They fully deserve it, a performance of blood & guts last night and even though Utd didn't seem too interested, they got the job done.
ye also have to play arsenal second last game ! ye have to win 3 of ye're last 4 out of palace boro arse and villa .we have to win 3 from 5 , ( brum , fulham , newcastle ,bolton ,arsenal)Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
Everton will drop points, the problem is Liverpool won't win all of their games. It's Liverpool's own fault, the amount of points they have thrown away this season is ridiculous. Even in victory last night, the amount of chances they missed was a joke. It's not the end of the world if we don't make it, the critical aspect of Liverpool's future is in the summer transfer market - who leaves and who joins. I'm expecting wholesale changes and a new Liverpool next season. Led by the best midfielder in the premier by a country mile - Xabi Alonso ;) You have to say well done to Everton though, although it's not over yet....
BTW, did anyone think that Chelsea looked a little jaded against Arsenal? I thought they looked tired and lacked the usual zip that they have had over the last few months. Especially Lampard and Duff. We're looking good with Alonso, Cisse and Hyypia looking fresh.....
thats probibly down to lamps and duff playing all season while the liverpool boys are just back from having there feet up . :DQuote:
Originally Posted by 4tothefloor
i belive liverpool will be back next year they do have class players and a very good manager and they needed a season to settle into it which we have taken avantage of but still i dont buy into this everton are only there coz liverpool were rubbish this year , we have sat in the top 4 since september ( over 7 months now ) thats not a fluke . and what did liverpool get champs league with last year around 60 points , everton are on 57 with 5 games left . we'll beat brum in goodison on sat and garuntee ourselfs europeen football next year .(top 7 get euro footy this year)
gap to reduce to 1 point come sunday ??? :D cmon you reds!!!