Good question. I never got around to asking after the last unfortunate update on Ryan Johansson.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
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Good question. I never got around to asking after the last unfortunate update on Ryan Johansson.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
He got bapisted today...no jokeQuote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
In a Deontay Wilder way or a Pope Francis way?Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
And? Firmino was baptised a few weeks ago
In a paddle pool inside the Birmingham stadium, so defo wilder wayQuote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
Are you on the rag again?Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
So what if he was baptised?
My God man chill outQuote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Watched most of the Birmingham - West Brom game. Thought Crowley was very good. Everyone was a little rusty but he stood out. I assume he’s not eligible but I’d love to know. He’d certainly be in or around the same level as Browne and Cullen...
(Hogan did well for the most part. Ref gave him very little but he was a constant hassle for the defenders and he held up and linked play well. Robinson was a little rusty but created a few chances for others which should have resulted in goals... Dara O’Shea was an unused sub)
He's in the Ireland squad in PES2020 so for me he's eligible!!!
Are you sure about that? not that I'm in any way au fait with PES2020, but not only is Dan not there but Glen stands alone in the starting team in front of the back 4, with his finger (super glued) stuck in the dyke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
Thread bumped
By this stage, it's 99.999% sure he's not eligible according to the rules, why would SK only say "may not be eligible"?Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Perhaps the FAI have not totally given up and have made a special appeal to FIFA's good graces for an exception..
We should have a case for Johansson and Crowley for a rule change really. They were both entitled to citizenship at birth, it's a quirk in Irish citizenship rules that means they had to be registered as foreign births. The spirit of the rule is stop people acquiring citizenships as adults through residency or nefarious means i.e countries like Qatar hnding out passports to talented foreign players.
I think it's clear that, at present, he doesn't qualify.
If that changes in future great, but at the moment we're discussing and English footballer that doesn't qualify to play for us.
Or...Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
An irish footballer who is currently only qualified to play for England.
Both Johansson and Crowley have irish passports now. They’re irish. I have huge sympathy for both. Other players have made the change that they made without it being an issue. Hopefully the FAI have learnt from this and will ensure every dual eligible player when representing us at u16 (or u15) level is advised to get a passport sorted.
Hopefully they can also pressure FIFA for a rule change or an exemption...
Oh Dan is there alright. Plays behind the lone striker as an attacking midfielderQuote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Which is more than can be said for some of the players on the rugby teamQuote:
Originally Posted by elatedscum
Maybe I'm not comprehending the nuances involved in the regulations but it really strikes me as though the prohibition of Johansson and Crowley of playing for Ireland is contrary to what I would imagine is the spirit of the laws.
I know this matter has been debated to death here and I don't intend on re-visiting the detail to support my point. I just can't conceive that this loophole rendering the pair ineligible could not be closed.
What if Crowley had an Irish passport before he played for England?
The requirement is that you have nationality of Country B at the time you play for Country A, so he'd be clear in that case.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Nobody would have even examined this rule if Luxembourg hadn't kicked off about Johansson.
Like there's no way Callum Robinson had a passport when he played underage for England u19s. Not a chance is he eligible either under these rules. It's a stupid rule and if our foreign births register wasn't a thing then this wouldn't be an issue.
Dan didn't have Irish nationality at the time he played for England. Being entitled to apply for irish nationality and being an irish national is not the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Dan was entitled to apply for Irish nationality and had he applied. his application for irish nationality would have been processed and he would have become an irish national.
But that was not done for Dan nor Ryan, before they played competitive football for another nation.
One parent has to be born on the sacred soil of Ireland in order for a new born baby to be considered an Irish national automatically at birth and only then does one forgoe the tedius process of applying to becomer an irish national.
Any irish parent living abroad applying for a passport for their child or grandchild has experienced the huge difference in requirements between both applications.
One application is a piece of cake the other is expensive and tedious.
If Crowley had an Irish passport (or more accurately, if he'd been added to the Irish foreign birth register) before playing for England he'd have qualified for us no problem. But clearly he hadn't, because his paperwork would have gone through no problem by now otherwise.
The Luxembourgers have really fecked us over here. Nobody had noticed the issue before they picked it up and the English would likely have had no issue with the Crowley switch, just as they didn't with Robinson. But now that the issue has been spotted it will come up time and again unless the rules are amended. Whether the FAI have the interest or the finance to follow it up at the moment is questionable though.
I can attest to this - my wife's application cost hundreds of pounds and took nearly a year (she qualifies through her granny). My daughter's took three weeks and cost £80 (she qualifies through me).Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Shown the door by Birmingham.
Hopefully he'll consider a move back to the continent.
https://www.the42.ie/birmingham-city...16824-Jan2021/
Could Mick McCarthy do with another Irish Midfielder ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Trequartista20
Mind you is Mick under pressure already ~ Hopefully Not.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-39936387.html
It's tough for 10s, Crowley was doing well at Birmingham last year and then Karanka, who doesn't play a 10 in his setup, comes in and pretty much overnight there's no point to Crowley being there anymore.
Rovers should buy him to replace Byrne. Get Jack's mum to put him up.
What's the latest with Crowley? Can he still represent us?
Yes, he is eligible under the new rules as I understand it. Needs to find a new club this month though and get back playing again, has been linked to Coventry City.
For what it's worth I actually think Crowley is a younger, potentially better 10 than Jack Byrne.
Crowley is a far better player IMO, afaik with the previous manager he was doing very well in Birmingham, which is at championship levelQuote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
He's from Coventry and I think started at Coventry so that makes sense. Would link up with Callum O'Hare too who is from a similar background to him- heavily steeped in the Irish community in that area and was with Villa.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/...-40216715.html good news. Really think he would improve us. Pity Kenny hasn't been in contact poor man management especially when it seems he is doing personal presentations to a 17 year old with a hand full of appearances in la liga
Disappointing that Kenny hasn't been in touch, even just to discuss how the paperwork is going and to let him know he's keeping an eye on him.
From what I have seen of both players he's better than Jack Byrne. Unquestionably eligible under the new rules.
Idiotic behaviour from Kenny especially when you have shown total inability to put a side out with a semblance of attacking flair so far in his tenureQuote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
It's certainly disappointing.
Hardly disappointing. A player who hasn’t been getting a game and just dropped down to league one. He’s not even sure the paperwork is actually sorted. Great if he starts getting a game and the paperwork is actually done, then he might be an option worth checking on.
He's a certain type of player in which we are lacking and have lacked for some time, and could be especially useful at international level.
In a situation where we are already picking League One players, and even LoI players, and where Daryl Horgan has become more-or-less a regular for us, I don't think we can be turning our noses up at a player as talented as Crowley.
Crowley only turned 23 a few months ago. At what level was Wes playing at the same age?