town playing poor and winning 4-0 decent compaint to have. not looking good for the bridge this season. stuck in 3 way battle with cahir and borris for survival
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town playing poor and winning 4-0 decent compaint to have. not looking good for the bridge this season. stuck in 3 way battle with cahir and borris for survival
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Originally Posted by Freddy
Freddy i am really dissapointed with this comment out of you when clearly you dont know the full side of the story. Glenn was the person who was crucial in getting the club back to the premier league. Your Quote of loyalty and commitment is crazy if you knew anything about cashel you would know glenn has being involved in the club for a very long time now and being involved with teams of all ages at the club. He had no other option but to step down at the way he was being treated by the committe and some of the players....Its amazing what happens to the heads of certain players and committe members when success comes about at a club.. 90% of the players would still love for glenn to be manager and so does anyone who knows whats good for the club. Cashel wont get a more loyal and committed manager no matter how far and wide they look.
Pretty much on the button there TT... it's a pity really, the club had a very successful return to the Premiership, and had a few results gone their way eg draws at Rock and Cahir instead of wins, they could even be looked at as possible title challengers, but two 5-0 defeats on the bounce could mean a long season yet for us. I hope not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tipp Top
What exactly happened as regards the Cashel manager stepping down/being forced out??Quote:
Originally Posted by Insidetherock
To be honest Zizu, a public forum isn't the place to discuss it. Needless to say, either way, the best interests of the club are what all involved, including Glen so far as I know, have in mind. We would be better off congratulating the B team for winning the Third division Shield yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by zizu's head
That's fair enough. Didn't really think that through!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Insidetherock
Im going to have to disagree with you on alot of those points TT and say that i know alot of the story.Glenn played a small part in getting the club back to the premier,the main ingredient in getting them back to the premier was the quality of players that he had.anybody could have done what he did.you could go as far as to say that they did not even need a manager in the lower leagues because the quality of players they have and the opposition is pretty poor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tipp Top
Glenns strong points was that he had good commitment and loyality but as for his soccer knowledge and people skills it is pretty poor.in a few games this year and from watching from the line a few things were going wrong and things needed to be done but nothing was happening from the sideline.i think he fell out with too many people and players and because of this was the reason for his own demise.i wont go into exact situations but there is many.
i can also say from talking to alot of the players they would not like to have him back.i think they need a strong manager,maybe somebody from outside the club who doesnt know the players.someone with soccer knowledge and know how and when the right changes need to be made you make them.there are plenty of managers out there that would love to come in and manage a premier team.cashel will have to either look hard for one or someone comes knocking on the door...i wish them all the best in their search
Again Cashel Man, I'd ask that much of what is happening in the club be kept in house, as it is very easy to take sides and present the situation from whichever viewpoint someone feels suits their own perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by CashelMan
I would agree that Cashel do have very good players, and yes, they were playing in lower divisions, but perhaps not enough credit is given in your post for Glen actually assembling that group of players, because as you know one of Cashel's biggest problems over the years has been the fact that many of the towns best players choose for one reason or another not to play with the local club. Even this season Cashel added some strong players to their squad, and were unfortunate perhaps to not strengthen it even more when Rosegreen decided at the last minute to put a team into the first division.
Be that as it may though, the fact remains that whether people agree or disagree with the way the club was managed up to now this year, Cashel do already have 11 points in the league, and have shown up to the last two games, that they have the players who when they play to their strenghts, are capable of surviving in the division. It would be a terrible pity if all that good work was wasted now by infighting, bickering and gossiping, and the club was to slide backwards again. It's time now to move on and rally round and pick up probably 5 or 6 more points to ensure survival, and then worry about who will be in charge next year.
Rock i agree and have said that Glenns strong points is his commitment and loyality.but his loyality and commitment to the club now is,i think,ruined.the way he left was not the sign of a proper manager or a committed person to the club.and i know that alot of the players arent happy about that either.i think it should have been done a different way and if it was he would have gone out with a bit more respect.thats just my view.i do not play myself but am a keen follower and go to every game that i can.but from lookin from the outside i think it is better for the club all round.Quote:
Originally Posted by Insidetherock
and i agree its time to get the thing back on track and to survive this year and build on the next.
I didnt mean to step on any toes regarding the issue Rock..obviously the Cashel manager leaving is a sore issue for the club as a whole. Im just trying to offer an outside, objective viewpoint. Obviously the manager did a lot for the club in getting back players and getting them up through the divisions etc. My main point is, and i think im right, is that credit where credit is due (i.e. getting players,building the team etc), but also you have to be analytically critical also when looking at the situation,,no matter what club is involved in the discussion! Its completely disrespectful for any manager to abandon his team mid-way through their first Premier season in years. A manager is supposed to lead by example etc. I know you said a few players left or were unhappy and this was part of his reason for departing. But, in my opinion, he is no better than them for then leaving himself. He should have stuck with his players for remainder of this season and then left if he so wished. Also, i still stand by the view that alot of your players are quite happy he has left, as other posts have indicated. Im really not trying to be bitter here, but you have to realise that in order to be a top club in this division you at least need a good manager. And you have to admit that your ex-manager had no genuine experience whatsoever other than his previous endevours in the lower divisions in the previous years. To be a top club, your manager should be striving to better himself as well as his team, i.e. - gaining coaching badges etc. Was your ex-manager doing this. At the end of the day, your team is a fine team,,and a good team doesnt become a bad team overnight! But a ggod team can easily be held back and become quite an average team if they are being managed by an average manager with no real experience - Fact! Really, it's like holding the keys to a treaure trove of possibilites,,but being unable to use the keys properly and thus failing to unlock the full potential on offer. In other words,,i think with a proper manager your team can achieve an awful lot more. In response to an early post that claimed it would be difficult to find a better manager than what Cashel had already i strongly disagree! How hard is it to find someone that wants to manage a Premier team, full of young, good players, that has experience and know how? Your club needs to further its horizon regarding this issue!
As we are talking about Managers leaving. I hear Clonmel Town B failed to field a team last Sunday as the manager has just walked away. Club asked for time from Tommy Lewis to sort things out, of coarse he said no. Are my facts right or wrong! Maybe FREDDY can tell us what happened.
Looks like you counted your chickens too soon my friend...Peake Villa and Town both above Cashel in the table and cashel in absolute disarray. I also notice that Nenagh Celtic who you were so dismissive of ,are going well in North Tipp.Its amazing the way people get carried away with themselves at the start of the season based on their own bias rather than their knowledge of the gameQuote:
Originally Posted by Tipp Top
yea, there seems to be a prob at town b at the moment , they were meant to play bansha this weekend but that has been changed , they now play wilderness with bansha playing saints bQuote:
Originally Posted by West Hammer
saints man j maguire is reffing this fixture yet again !!!!!!!!!!
does anyone know when the town v peake munster game is on? should be a good 1
this thing that Peake should be beating a team from North Tipp might be settled this Sunday as they are coming to Nenagh to play Nenagh town. It should be a good game but i hope the Villa come out on top:DQuote:
Originally Posted by maxwellsmart
ron is fully aware of when the fixture with peake and town is,it should be a very interesting game for a variety of reasons
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Originally Posted by maxwellsmart
Im well able to count my chickens. Clearly you must have a literacy problem as i said that we would challenge for a title in the next 2 years. Yes our club's league for isn't perfect Thats clear for all to see Yes Neangh Celtic are doing well in their respective league but as i have said before i dont rate the NTDL and still feel that most of the teams in the TSDL would win the NTDL league.
Anyone know why Clonmel Town F.A.I game called off?
They were given a walkover during the weekQuote:
Originally Posted by West Hammer
Will Rosegreen get the same stick on here as Rock Rovers got when they had to give a walk over to Clonmel Town a couple of weeks back.Or is it different rules for different clubs.
No, I don't think Rosegreen will get as much stick as Rock Rovers did for a number of reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by useless
1. Rosegreen simply could not fulfil the fixture as they didn't have enough registered players available to do so. They had something like 9 players injured or away at the weekend (it was a bank holiday weekend remember), so they could not field a team.
2. The likliehood was, that even if they had fielded a team, they were unlikely to beat Clonmel Town, and therefore felt that giving a walkover was unlikely to change the overall outcome
3. This was a cup game, and as such the result had no immediate impact on any other team aside from the teams involved. Rock Rovers giving walkovers to teams in the league is a different matter. For example, they played and drew with Cashel Town, but gave a walkover to Clonmel Town. Clonmel Town now have 15 points, and Cashel have 11, a difference of 4 points. Had for example they played and drew with Clonmel and given Cashel a walkover, both teams would now be on 13 points.. so by giving walkovers in the league, they can have effects on other teams, and possible promotion/relegation places
4. The biggest gripe I think most people had with Rock Rovers on the weekend that they gave the walkover, was that they also fielded a B team on the same weekend. If they have enough players to field a B team, then these players should have played with the A team, and perhaps given the walkover in the lower league game. Surely the higher up team should take precedence?
Due to Rosegreen giving walkovers at the end of last season and knowing Tommy Lewis as I do, they are in for a large fine and a very stern warning about the rest of the season.
All clubs can get caught out on any given Sunday, but Tommy is like an elephant he never forgets past wrong doings.
good to see we have an outside manager for oscar traynor this year. we may get a fair selection now. my team would be
1. breen
2. cosgrave
3. loughnane
4. breen
5. walsh
6. d burns
7. foggy
8. t scully
9. moroney
10. p shanahan
11. m ryan
formidable line up. my bench would be 12. r ryan (sub keeper ) 13. paul kennedy 14. barry ryan. 15. alan leahy 16. s mcgrath.
im sure there would be a lot of people unhappy with that but the league is lucky, only 16 players can be picked and they all can play
Dwayne Burns ? I didn't think he was that special when Cashel played Clonmel. What about the red headed ferlla who plays defensive midfield for Clonmel Celtic.. very tidy player. Colin Bargary of Cashel deserves a spot to in my humble opinion, and I'd put Ryan in goal ahead of Breen. But, very strong whatever way you look at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ronburgundy
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showt...p?t=2055722987
I was thinking about this last night.
This would be a great venue for a Tipperary league of ireland team.
It would be central in Tipperary and would have a huge turnover of people if it happens. Some of them may go to watch a football game if the facilities were good enough.
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Originally Posted by bawn79
The link isn't working, but I am assuming that you are pointing towards the proposed development at Two Mile Borris that was put into the NTCC for planning permission this week.
It definitely would be a fine stadium for a League of Ireland team, but in fairness, facilities don't make a team viable, supporters do. The real question that would need to be asked is would there be 5-10,000 people in the hinterland willing to go watch a team on a regular basis
Tipperary already had a team in the past, Thurles Town, and they couldn't make it work
Apologies for the link not working but thats the same development. I guess I hadnt heard the idea being floated of there being a team sport involvement and if the oppportunity is to be believed it would be a shame to miss out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Insidetherock
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showt...p?t=2055722987
the exact same idea came into my head when i heard of the development. a league of ireland club from tipp to play out of the massive project in 2 mile borris. im sure a handy enough sized tallagh style stadium could be added to plans easy enough. would be a massive passing support around this at weekends with the casino, greyhound racing punters etc so you never know.
as for tsdl team id go for
1 r ryan
2 cant think of decent right full . so gonna play michael ryan out of position here.
3 c higgins
4 p breen
5 chalky
6 T scully
7 c bargary
8 benny ryan
9 ted o connor
10 aaron moroney
11 p fogarty
12 d breen
13 a leahy
14 p shanahan
15 p kennedy
16 cossy ( clonmel celtic)
1- richie ryan
2-darren burns
3-paul tobin
4-chalky
5-breen
6-foggy
7-scully
8-barnes
9-barry ryan
10-moroney
11-kennedy
surely thats a no brainer......who is left out that warrants a starting berth?
not many celtic players on those line-up's...i think they at least deserve two starters and another 1 or 2 on the bench, although in fairness it is hard to argue with any 1 of suggested teams.
More or less agree with you except would have Higgins right back and loughnane from Peake Villa left back.Swap Michael Ryan for Kennedy.However, its a tough one to call as some very good players left outQuote:
Originally Posted by balls
For me it has to be.
1 R. Ryan
2 C. Bargary
3 D.Loughnane
4 A. Leahy
5 P. Breen
6 T. Scully
7 I. Barnes
8 D. Duggan
9 B. Ryan
10 A. Moroney
11 P. Fogarty
12 P.Kennedy
13 T. O'Connor
14 Cossy
15 J. Walsh
16 D. Breen
any reports from today's Munster Junior and FAI games?
my team- g.robinson,p.coady,chalky,breen,p,tobin,t.scully,b enny ryan,dwayne burns,a.moroney,p.kennedy,jj.butler subs r.ryan,c.bargary,j.cagney,j.murphy,c.higgins
i dont rate paul shanahan at all i dont how any of ye cud pick him
Blackcastle United beat Rock Rovers on pens after game finished 4-4 aet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tipperary_Man
Clonmel Town 3-2 Peake Villa aet
Clonmel Celtic 2-0 Cashel Town
Simon Scully pen
Paddy O'Donnell
Draw made last night for the first round of Tipperary Cup. Stand out ties are:
Peake Villa v St. Michaels
Two-Mile-Borris v Clonmel Town
Peake and Saints should be a very good game. It's a pity both had to meet each other at such an early stage in the competition.
I watched Town and Peake on Sunday. It was a very good game, Peake were the better team in the first half and played very well. Town dominated the second half and extra time and only for the Peake keeper they could have scored a few more goal's. I must say the standard of finishing for all 5 goals was very good and a credit to all scorer's.Tony Scully and Barry Ryan played very well for Town, Barry was unlucky not to score one or two more. Foggy and Donal Duggan were Villa's best two players.