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Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
Pretty conclusive.
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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
thanks for the help almost sorted now all I need now is a ticket :DQuote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
My point was that it shows that many Irish people will always go for the more glamourous/ successful option rather than support their local side, whatever the sport be that football or rugby. The Lunsters are just another example of glory hunters who'll come up with any old horse crap to justify going with the "better" option.Quote:
Originally Posted by gspain
Agree, hadn't seen the second angle before.Quote:
Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge
No but they didn't complain about people following a team from outside their area.Quote:
Originally Posted by Youths4Ever
I'm not aware the leinster players did either?Quote:
Originally Posted by gspain
http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugb...y-1720736.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Macy
Fair enough, but very mild mannered, he hardly did a Reggie Corrigan on them.Quote:
Originally Posted by gspain
I'm getting plenty of unsolicited emails - British Lions Tours, British Lions Kit etc. Everybody outside the UK, basically the 3 southern hemisphere countries looks on the Lions as a British team.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
Also, the kit has the colours of the four comprising teams - not a lot of green on it is there? (the tops of the socks! why bother?) :D !!!!
Great idea if you want to be part of the British Empire. And a lot in the IRFU do. But I think, we as an independant country shouldn't be a part of this outdated jingoism!
Shilts, this is a rugby thread where we have happily been discussing rugby related issues. I'm pretty sure all of us who contribute to it would like it kept that way. If you want to talk politics, open a thread about it in off-topic would you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shilts
No offence meant, but can you please stick to the game and not the political history? Thanks.
hardly an irish phenomenon though, is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Macy
That it seems to be able to cross sporting boundaries, I'd say it is. It's certainly much more prevalent here imo, and the general acceptance of it certainly is. If you use examples in England, the bandwagonners are held in disdain, here using the Munster example it's something to be proud of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Man Utd draw huge support from all over England. Juventus draw huge support from all over Italy. Both would probably be at best equally supported with City and Torino in their own cities. It appears to be generally accepted in the UK and Italy too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macy
At least our rugby fans are supporting Irish teams as opposed to Wasps or Leicester.
Yeah, and what do you think United fans think of bandwagonners? No idea of Juve, but that's not true about city being equally supported in Manchester either.Quote:
Originally Posted by gspain
If they're not following their local team for bogus reasons, it's not that different.Quote:
Originally Posted by gspain
I'd agree with all of thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Macy
Really, because I live in Cape Town and John Robbie (ex Ireland Scrum Half) is one of the main commentators here and he like all the rest of the Supersport commentators refer to the side as the "British and Irish Lions", all the adverts for the tour are for the "British and Irish Lions" the tickets state the games are for whomever V's "British and Irish Lions"Quote:
Originally Posted by Shilts
The UK media & Sky in particular seem to have a geography issue when it comes to who is British and who is not (they constantly refer to Northern Ireland as being British which it is not) but outside of them the rest of the world from my experience calls the team "The British and Irish Lions"
read munsterfans.com, very little support for bandwagonersQuote:
Originally Posted by Macy
Friend of mine was in Australia during the last tour there. He said that pretty much all the promotion there just called them "The Lions" and rarely mentioned Britain or Ireland.Quote:
Originally Posted by endabob1
I tried to open a separate thread joesoap HAHA. But some all powerful being called Pete closed it down because he said it should be in here. Can't win sometimes!Quote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
Is there much support for Niall Ronan?Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
See for yourself:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bald Student
http://www.munsterfans.com/forum/for....asp?TID=16159
http://www.munsterfans.com/forum/for....asp?TID=19052
Was at the AIL final in Thomond yesterday, great game.
Shannon were awarded the win, and the league, in bizarre circumstances. At full time, the sides were level 19-19, and after the teams went back into the dressing rooms, it was announced over the tannoy that there would be two 10-minute halves of extra time played. Should the scores still be level, total tries scored would determine the winner. If that still did not separate the two teams, then the first team to score a try would be deemed winners, and champions. Queue 20 minutes of outstanding defensive rugby from Shannon, despite being outclassed by Clontarf, and winning by virtue of scoring the first try, almost two hours earlier. An awful way to end any game, but to lose a title that way is almost unimaginable. Can't understand why they didn't use the same penalty kicks as the Heineken Cup semi final last weekend to determine the winner.
It is in the clubs handbook and has been for the past few years. Both sides were aware of the situation before the game, and while I agree with you that it sucks to lose a game in that fashion, it should encourage sides to attack from the word go in case the unlikely scenario that came up yesterday should arise.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Clontarf were the better side, but couldn't put away the opposition despite numerous opportunities. Their sub winger knocked on over the line, and they had about 65% of the ball. A great day, yet another one, for Shannon RFC. I cant agree that Shannon played defensive rugby for the 20 minutes of extra time. They were finishing the second period on the attack, and a crazy attempt at a drop goal by Tadhg Bennett which was charged down and returned the length of the pitch for the knock on over the line by the Clontarf winger nearly cost them the game.
I was a little surprised at Stephen Kelly the Shannon winger who asked to be substituted at half time in extra time so he could go and play a gaelic football match with Newcastlewest. If he's not totally committed to playing in an All Ireland league final, then perhaps the club should look elsewhere for players who would be proud to wear the Shannon shirt.
You sure? One of the Shannon players was interviewed after the game, and said some of the team weren't sure if they had won or not after extra time.
Have to give props to the Clontarf support as well, outsung the locals by a distance. Didn't agree with the political signs they brought to the game though.
The ref is obliged to inform both coaches before the game of all possible outcomes. A world class ref such as Rolland who has reffed a World Cup final would have done this, I am pretty sure.
Clontarf had great support, I agree. What a miserable trip home fro them, losing in such a fashion.;)
What were the signs.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
election posters for some guy running in Clontarf, can't remember his name, or political partyQuote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
I wasn't too impressed with Sean Kelly parking his car with campaign messages on it outside Jury's before Heineken Cup Semi Final either
he definately told them during the extra time as it could be heard coming accross on tvQuote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
I imagie he would have told them before the game-he would have been obliged to. It would be pretty pointless telling them at the start of extra-time that the first try scored during normal time was going to win in the event of a draw...that would be like closing the gate after the dog got out...pointless.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
Delighted in particular for Dowling and Ronan.
see here
Glad to see a lot of new players are getting caps and experience.
I wonder does Ross inclusion have anything to do with fact he is moving to Leinster in the summer
He was in the 6 nations squad and tight heads are thin on the ground so probably not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Youths4Ever
Start of a new Leinster bandwagon? Seems to have all the right conditions for it
Great display by the pack today. Ever since martin Johnson ruled the roost I've had a fear of tht Leicester pack and I remember a quarter final in Lansdowne a few years ago when they destroyed Leinster
Nice for the ol' boys like Horgan and O'Kelly
Well done to Leinster winning it on their first trip to the final.
As always, its the pack that wins trophies.
Unbelievable achievement that 3 Irish provinces have won the trophy.
Stadium for the international game is pretty small, like a club game. Should suit the new boys, not too over-awing. Pack is huge!
The anthem - wtf!?
yeah funny stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by brianw82
mustn't have been told you don't sing the whole song.
It's designer sunglasses aplenty in the queue for the RDS.
Heard earlier the "goys" had the cup in Kiely's last night...old habits die hard! :)
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Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
Only player who was in Keily's was Jackman but he did bring a special friend the Heineken Cup :D
How many turned out at the RDS yesterday?