What are the plans??
Iv a suspicion a lot of people dont realise just how bad they are.
Id agree with most of the rest of your post.
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Limerick stewards will always be courteous to supporters of other teams - it's our own that get treated like s****e. There shall be no argument from me regarding the poisonous brand of football Taylor has us playing but it has proven to be very very effective against Bohs!
I haven't heard any mass complaints about the stewards since halfway through last season.
Jackman was a bad ground, but the plans for the new Markets Field are pure poison.
Markets Field is just a bigger Jackman as far I'm concerned the only difference being the stand in Jackman kept you dry if it rained the ones in MF wont.
I don't believe that style of football or having local players has a major effect on crowds. Winning matches outweighs these pretty much to negligibility.
Harps have had all local teams, sometime playing decent football, but if they aren't winning people lose interest. Back in the day (late nineties, early 2000s) we had a good sprinkling of non locals and good crowds because we were decent. Longford would of course ideally have more local players- but it'd be suicide to bring guys in who aren't as good as what they'd have otherwise.
I agree with you there. People in Limerick keep saying if there was more locals in the team crowds would support them. At one stage we had a complete team of locals, struggled and people didn't come out to watch us. We now have a midfield with Duggan, Rainsford, Tracy and Hughes all locals and people still aren't coming out to support the team. Terrible football a bad results at home is killing us.
Not suggesting side should be stocked with local players - you get the best you can afford, simple as that. But the point I'm making is there is probably no connection town and Town. Under Stephen Kenny, for example, wasn't the team mainly non local players, but they would go in to town after game and be seen around the place. I hear that's not the case any more
That was the case with Kenny but in fairness you're talking 12-15 years ago, the Town were having some success for the first time ever and there was a novelty factor, the majority of people in the town only started going to games then and since then were treated to Premier Division football and cup finals, it was inevitable that dropping down to the first division would seriously hurt our attendances.
Some of the players in fairness have been out in town, particularly last season but to be fair to them the majority of locals wouldn't waste their money going out in Town on your average Saturday night so it's a bit much to expect players to.
Fair enough, thanks for clearing that up
343 at Wexford v Shelbourne
Attendances week 8:
St Pats v Athlone: 1,257
Limerick v Sligo: 819
Drogheda v Shamrock Rovers: 1,330
Cork v Bohs: 3,711
Bray v Dundalk: 900?
Derry v UCD: 800?
Waterford v Harps: 443
Wexford v Shels: 343
Longford v Galway: 350?
Shamrock rovers v Cobh: 200?
Week 8:
PREMIER DIVISION
Athlone - 895 (754; 271; 200; 354; 462)
Bohs - 1,734 (1,597; 1,496; 1,488; 1,835; 2,366)
Bray - 670 (891; 965; 1,121; 952; 1,169)
Cork - 4,319 (1,965; 2,786; 2,128 FD; 1,693 FD; 2,681)
Derry - 1,167 (1,446; 1,460; 2,135; 1,965 FD; 2,436)
Drogheda - 1,330 (817; 977; 811; 859; 1,106)
Dundalk - 2,256 (1,997; 949; 1,355; 1,877; 2,371)
Limerick - 1,031 (1,649; 734 FD; 569 FD; 598 FD; 429 FD)
Pat's - 1,732 (1,687; 1,474; 1,346; 1,756; 1,631)
Rovers - 2,471 (2,763; 3,127; 3,779; 3,794; 3,611)
Sligo - 2,395 (2,342; 3,007; 2,103; 1,807; 1,756)
UCD - 414 (487; 506; 558; 610; 272 FD)
FIRST DIVISION
Cobh - 275 (439; 2008 - 1,122 PD; 681; 368; 403)
Harps - 614 (479; 429; 433; 644; 480) -
Galway - 1,342 (No previous)
Longford - 425 (379; 365; 315; 230; 260)
Rovers B - 315 (No previous)
Shels - 769 (1,114 PD; 1,187 PD; 781; 737; 972)
Waterford - 600 (478; 453; 466; 619; 434)
Wexford - 275 (227; 302; 216; 343; 494)
PREMIER AVERAGE: 1,721 (1,566; 1,630; 1,547; 1,512; 2,010)
FIRST DIVISION AVERAGE: 586 (391; 372; 578; 682; 417)
OVERALL AVERAGE: 1,330 (1,140; 1,125; 1,110; 1,095; 1,175)
OVERALL WEEKLY ATTENDANCE: 10,153
OVERALL FIRST ATTENDANCE: 18,179
OVERALL PREMIER ATTENDANCE: 101,565
OVERALL COMBINED ATTENDANCE: 119,744
local media has attendance of 350 ppl at Galway game..
904 announced for Galway/Waterford according to both clubs' Twitter accounts. Doing well with their numbers, outdoing a few PD clubs at the minute.
Mistake
See post below for correction
Have rechecked and gate staff have confirmed to media at ground as 392 Official and not what I previously stated
Around 300 in Finn Park.
Announced at the Galway & Blues game attendance was 969 I thought?
Dlk v Cork 2,039
1140 in Dalymount.
Is the parking facility at LIT not there this season? There was ample parking space there last season.
For such a supposedly important project, it's amazing that there were no artist's impressions of the finished project or no 3D rendering of the plans. This suggests to me that there was no proper architect involved in the application for planning permission.
The only positive thing is that no work has been done since planning permission was granted. I don't know if the LEDP is considering some revisions to the plans, but let's hope so.
The most important factor in growing the attendance is getting results.
People often complain that there aren't enough locals in the squad, but as other posters have pointed out, even when we had the best local players in the squad people didn't come out in their droves to follow them.
People often complain about the style of play too. But most people don't care that much about the style of play, as long as you win. Let's face it, an awful lot of people would prefer to see us knocking balls over the top for Gaffney or whoever to chase after and then shoot immediately. A lot of people don't have the patience for slow build-ups.
Then again, it's very hard to break out of a circle of negativity. Numerous runs of success in the First Division did little to bring out crowds then (not until the "big match" came along), and we went into the game against Sligo on a run of D W W D.
My conclusion is that maintaining attendance has as much to do with managing expectations as winning games. For me personally, the wins are all the sweeter for struggles you go through to achieve them.
811 at Shels V Longford
poor hand writing....seriously I haven't a clue.
3400 and something given for the Showgies, I have to say that there looked to much more than 100 extra than our game vs UCD on good Friday, though I won't bore ye with season tickets not counted etc.
Not a great crowd in Tallaght last night I'd say 2,000 at best.
Sligo get fantastic support for a town of less than 20,000 people
3,481