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01/10/2011, 9:00 AM
micls

Also thinking about the slight chance that we win the rest of our games. Mons lose to us, but win all the rest, Shels draw one of Waterford or Harps(or salthill I guess). And Mons win the league, we come second and Shels somehow end up in the playoff! Is a bottling of that proportion possible.
01/10/2011, 9:05 AM
sullanefc

Quote:

Originally Posted by micls

Also thinking about the slight chance that we win the rest of our games. Mons lose to us, but win all the rest, Shels draw one of Waterford or Harps(or salthill I guess). And Mons win the league, we come second and Shels somehow end up in the playoff! Is a bottling of that proportion possible.

Here is one favourable permutation:

Tue 4th Oct:
CCFC V Mons - Home Win
(Shels 26/62, CCFC 27/60, Mons 26/58, Lim 27/57)

Sat 8th Oct:
Waterford V Shels - Draw - The result that could allow CCFC back in the title hunt.
(CCFC 28/63, Shels 27/63, Mons 27/61, Lim 27/57)

Fri 14th Oct:
CCFC bye week.
(Shels 28/66, Mons 28/64, CCFC 28/63, Lim 28/60)

Fri 21st Oct:
Mons V Limerick - Away Win - The result that stops Mons from winning the league.
(Shels 29/69, CCFC 29/66, Mons 29/64, Lim 29/63)

Sat 29th Oct:
Shels V CCFC - Away Win to win the league.
Lim V Waterford - doesn't matter as Athlone would have to beat Mons.
(CCFC 30/69, Shels 30/69, Mons 30/67, Lim 30/66).

All the games not included are against teams outside the top 5 and are given as 3 points to the teams in the top 4.
01/10/2011, 9:17 AM
adamd164

All well and good, but how did we go up a point during our bye week? :p

It would be enough for us to finish level with Shels given that it means them dropping further points and we already have a superior goal difference.
01/10/2011, 9:19 AM
sullanefc

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Originally Posted by adamd164

All well and good, but how did we go up a point during our bye week? :p

Good spot. That point is effectively our superior goal difference which is worth an extra point. :p

Fixed now.
01/10/2011, 10:41 AM
monutdfc

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Originally Posted by sullanefc

That point is effectively our superior goal difference which is worth an extra point. :p

Ah the old,oft repeated "goal difference is worth an extra point" line from Alex Ferguson; in fact, superior goal difference is worth an extra half a point
01/10/2011, 10:47 AM
sullanefc

0.9 of a point really.
01/10/2011, 11:45 AM
Lim till i die

How hurt are Davin and Derek? x x

Not that it's really relevant to me anymore! I think our best case scenario would actually still leave Shels and Cork needing to play out a draw on the final day to both go up. :bulgy:
01/10/2011, 11:49 AM
bluewhitearmy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lim till i die

How hurt are Davin and Derek? x x

Not that it's really relevant to me anymore! I think our best case scenario would actually still leave Shels and Cork needing to play out a draw on the final day to both go up. :bulgy:

If Mons beat Cork and Cork draw with Shels while we win 3 we get 3rd.
01/10/2011, 11:52 AM
Lim till i die

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Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy

If Mons beat Cork and Cork draw with Shels while we win 3 we get 3rd.

Much Obliged.

I'll bet you a million of Pat O'Sullivans quids that Monaghan wont beat Cork though.
01/10/2011, 11:56 AM
bluewhitearmy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lim till i die

Much Obliged.

I'll bet you a million of Pat O'Sullivans quids that Monaghan wont beat Cork though.

I think your right and that they wont beat em but i was surprised they beat Shels too so hoping Roderick can pull it off again..
At least if they draw we can pretend we have hope last day of the season for once.

After seeing Mervue wouldn't bet against them taking something off Mons either if Cork were to win.

Still having a slight interest with 3 games to go is a great change from playing months of games knowing you are getting nothing like previous years so im happy enough for now.

Edit: Last day of season interest if we can beat Mons.
01/10/2011, 1:36 PM
MagicMon

Every Mons fan would say that Mervue is as difficult as playing Shels, Cork or Limerick
01/10/2011, 3:11 PM
passerrby

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lim till i die

Much Obliged.

I'll bet you a million of Pat O'Sullivans quids that Monaghan wont beat Cork though.

Your covered.
Still amazed that regardless of who we beat people still it's a on off and a fluke , we were by far the better team last night
01/10/2011, 3:18 PM
bluewhitearmy

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Originally Posted by passerrby

Your covered.
Still amazed that regardless of who we beat people still it's a on off and a fluke , we were by far the better team last night

Its not that i dont think ye are good enough to beat Cork its that if ye beat them i could help us so i think it wont happen.
01/10/2011, 4:15 PM
razor

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Originally Posted by Lim till i die

How hurt are Davin and Derek?

Derek left the field on a stretcher and left the Cross on crutches, Davin has a hamstring strain, both probably won't feature on Tuesday.
01/10/2011, 5:07 PM
Lim till i die

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicMon

Every Mons fan would say that Mervue is as difficult as playing Shels, Cork or Limerick

Then several dozen people in the border region are wrong!!

Mervue were exactly as expected last night, a pretty decent side with two or three very good players. But without Gaffney they're toothless, the good sides will find it very hard to concede against them, lord knows we did our best in the first half last night.

The very worst you'll come out of there with is a nil all draw.

I'll give you Limerick in fairness, it's a far tougher place for a challenger to go than Limerick is!

Quote:

Originally Posted by passerrby

Still amazed that regardless of who we beat people still it's a on off and a fluke , we were by far the better team last night

If Monaghan beat Cork it will suit Limerick therefore I don't think it will happen. :)

Wasn't a dig at Monaghan at all, I've told anyone that will listen that they'd finish top three for the last two years now.
01/10/2011, 5:08 PM
Lim till i die

Quote:

Originally Posted by razor

Derek left the field on a stretcher and left the Cross on crutches, Davin has a hamstring strain, both probably won't feature on Tuesday.

All we need now is for Cummins to get injured in training and Cork literally wont score for the rest of the season :p
01/10/2011, 6:28 PM
razor

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lim till i die

All we need now is for Cummins to get injured in training and Cork literally wont score for the rest of the season :p

The way Kalen Spillane dispatched the free kick last night I wouldn't bet on it. :D
01/10/2011, 7:37 PM
Jofspring

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicMon

Every Mons fan would say that Mervue is as difficult as playing Shels, Cork or Limerick

After seeing Mervue last night I was very disappointed in them. We played poor but they where worse. Even playing poor we could probably have come away with a few more goals if we took our chances. No doubt they are better than Athlone, Salthill and Wexford but Barr that they ain't great. Without Gaffney they aren't dangerous in attack but surprisingly enough Gaffney was very poor for us last night.
01/10/2011, 8:24 PM
sheao

Tuesday is massive for City. We have to beat Mons to have any chance of getting 2nd, but even after that we still need them to drop points
Win our final 4 games and that might only be enough for 3rd .
So tight that one more slip up from us and we could face another season in the first division .
01/10/2011, 8:33 PM
L.T.F.C.

Longford win tonight to move into 5th. Ref sent off Gillespie for another dubious decision. Callanan again. *******.
02/10/2011, 12:17 AM
Mr Maroon

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamd164

Do Galway fans have any preference as to who they want to finish 3rd for the playoff?

I wasn't that impressed by Limerick last night. I haven't seen Cork or Mons this season but I'm going to watch Mons against Mervue in a couple of weeks. Whoever we play it's going to be very difficult.
02/10/2011, 9:58 AM
holidaysong

The tables on Extra Time and the League website are different. One has Monaghan on 58 points and one has them on 62 points. Which of these is correct?
02/10/2011, 10:11 AM
bullit

Errortel go with this.

http://www.rte.ie/aertel/images/236-02.gif
02/10/2011, 10:11 AM
total hoofball

Quote:

Originally Posted by holidaysong

The tables on Extra Time and the League website are different. One has Monaghan on 58 points and one has them on 62 points. Which of these is correct?

League website

1. Shels Pld 26 Pts 62
2. Mons Pld 25 Pts 58
3. Cork Pld 26 Pts 57
4. Lims Pld 27 Pts 57
02/10/2011, 11:19 AM
holidaysong

The AirtricityLeague.ie that I'm looking at has Monaghan on 62.
02/10/2011, 12:02 PM
Pablo Escobar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Maroon

I wasn't that impressed by Limerick last night. I haven't seen Cork or Mons this season but I'm going to watch Mons against Mervue in a couple of weeks. Whoever we play it's going to be very difficult.

IMO the top 4 teams in the 1st Div would be a mid table Premier team. Make what you want of that.
02/10/2011, 12:31 PM
legendz

It was a big win for the Mons on Friday night. I can't see Limerick finishing in the top 3 from here.
02/10/2011, 12:42 PM
bluewhitearmy

Kevin Dawson.........................Oh my god.
02/10/2011, 12:52 PM
micls

Quote:

Originally Posted by legendz

It was a big win for the Mons on Friday night. I can't see Limerick finishing in the top 3 from here.

They're best/only shot is Mons winning Tuesday. If that happens, our confidence will take a nosedive and Shels will have something to play for when playing us in Tolka, and would be likely to get at least a point. This would mean Limerick get promoted if they win all their games.

I think if we get a draw/win on Tuesday then it's game over for Limerick.
02/10/2011, 1:22 PM
legendz

I can't see Cork remaining in the First Division. I want to see Limerick in the Premier but I could only ever see it happening at the expense of the Mons.
02/10/2011, 2:13 PM
micls

Quote:

Originally Posted by legendz

I can't see Cork remaining in the First Division. I want to see Limerick in the Premier but I could only ever see it happening at the expense of the Mons.

How though? Mons are a point ahead of hem with 2 games in hand! I really can't see how Limerick would catch them. Even if we beat them, and Limerick did, they'd still have to drop a point elsewhere for Limerick to overtake them. In the form they're in it just seems unrealistic.
02/10/2011, 2:20 PM
bluewhitearmy

Quote:

Originally Posted by micls

They're best/only shot is Mons winning Tuesday. If that happens, our confidence will take a nosedive and Shels will have something to play for when playing us in Tolka, and would be likely to get at least a point. This would mean Limerick get promoted if they win all their games.

I think if we get a draw/win on Tuesday then it's game over for Limerick.

If ye draw ye need to draw one more and us to win our 3 for us to take 3rd so cant see how it would be game over then.
02/10/2011, 2:29 PM
micls

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy

If ye draw ye need to draw one more and us to win our 3 for us to take 3rd so cant see how it would be game over then.

I say that because I don't think ye can beat Monaghan. If we lose, ye can get away with drawing with Monaghan and still get promoted if we lose to Shels.

Obviously it's all opinion based, I just think it's far more likely if we lose.
02/10/2011, 2:51 PM
bluewhitearmy

Quote:

Originally Posted by micls

I say that because I don't think ye can beat Monaghan. If we lose, ye can get away with drawing with Monaghan and still get promoted if we lose to Shels.

Obviously it's all opinion based, I just think it's far more likely if we lose.

I think no matter what we need to win all 3 of our remaining games...

Anything could happen though.
03/10/2011, 2:05 PM
razor

However much you hate Roddy you've got to admire his positivity
taken from extratime

Quote:

“We can beat anyone, we can beat anyone, you see that performance tonight in Tolka Park, we can beat anyone, it’s not arrogance, we can beat anyone, we’ve a great squad of players, they are on it, red hot on it, we can beat anyone in this league and we intend to do that.”

The king of positive reinforcement :D
03/10/2011, 2:11 PM
JC_GUFC

Crazy to think that Monaghan have lost to Mervue twice!

As a GUFC fan I'd expect us to lose to whoever we meet in the playoff but given a pick of the teams I'd like us to play Monaghan. Mind you if Shels continue their recent form they could end up in the playoff too!
04/10/2011, 3:06 AM
micls

Butterflies over tonight alright. Complete game changer. Either we win, and fight for 2nd or even 1st, or we draw/lose and fight for 3rd.
04/10/2011, 6:22 AM
El-Pietro

so many players missing...
04/10/2011, 7:56 AM
Pablo Escobar

If we're missing as many players as is reported, a draw would be a more than acceptable result for us.
04/10/2011, 8:32 AM
razor

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo Escobar

If we're missing as many players as is reported, a draw would be a more than acceptable result for us.

Rubbish , we have a good enough squad to be able to put out a side to beat Monaghan and thats exactly what we should be aiming to do.

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