Good assesment of the day. My only gripe and I may well be in a minority was that Ndo got MOTM. Thought all four centre halves were excellent.
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From my experience, the niggle between supporters of the two Rovers is almost entirely message board-based. And apparently in Super Valu in Sligo town. Great atmosphere of mutual respect between the two sides, although it was a bit flat up where I was with the neutrals and curious observers.
It wasn't a vintage final by any means but I think it was a good advert for our football. Plenty of nerves and heavy touches but Boco, Ndo and Doyle stood out for me in particular - although Boco must have set a new record for shots drilled straight into the first man.
I wouldn't understate the achievement that was the attendance. To get 37k out (my brother tells me RTE put it at 41k - maybe that's including the 4000 stewards) at a game when both Arsenal and Chelsea are on the box is no small feat.
I wouldn't go that far. Sligo are better conditioned for obvious reasons, but they also gave Rovers the run-around for long periods. You see the same when teams play Barcelona and Spain (not suggesting Sligo are in the same league... yet) - Germany at the World Cup were out on their feet. Add to that Rovers have had a more intense run-in, both physically and emotionally, and you can see why this match might have been just one step too far. All credit to Sligo, though - they still had to do the job.
edit: also sincere congratulations to Sligo. I really hope yous hang on to Boco and Ndo stays fit so you can have a real go at the league and Europe next season. Your style of football would be a great advert for our league abroad.
Russell is up there with the best in the league as well. Lovely footballer who has really come into his own this season.
I think Ndo is right that we were blessed not to get too many injuries all year as our squad is tiny really when you compare it to what Shamrock Rovers have.
Hadn't heard Ndo say that, but I think he's right. We were running on fumes by the end of the game, and being without Twigg (who really shouldn't have played, he was left on in case we could fashion a one on one chance he could finish, but wasn't fit enough to really contribute) was just one injury too many. For those who've slagged off how we've played at the end of the season bear in mind that yesterday we were without Dan Murray, Pat Sullivan, Sean O'Connor, Robert Bayly, Aidan Price and had to play with our two front-men half fit (Twigg and Baker). A lot of players there who could have made a big difference, but that's football for you.
Thought Twiggy played very well until the penalty. He physically dominated the Sligo centre halves and won everything in the air.
He put himself about pretty well in the aerial sense but I got the impression he was a guy playing with a few painkilling injections. It's not been many times this season he's failed to have a good chance in a game. MON said pre kick-off that neither he or Price was fit so he couldn't take a risk on playing two such players.
Has anyone ever won the FAI cup before without conceding a goal including with a penalty shoot-out?
Not just because of yesterdays result,but after a 90 min draw would a replay not be the better option.Another big gate,more exposure. Its not as if the league is the main event in a sporting week very often. Why not have seconds if possible.
A brilliant day, great thinking by the FAI, well organised, good energy and two teams giving it a rattle, put a real smile on my face yesterday.
Has anybody mentioned that when Sham's did get the ball, they did try to play a bit.
You're dead right. There would have been huge interest in a replay. The players wages for the extra week could come out of the gate receipts
It was a great occasion. Was saying it just before the penalties about what a great day it was (was resigned to defeat at that stage) and to win it obviously topped it all off. The amount of text messages I got after the game from people that I never thought would even know the game was on let alone would watch it was very surprising but also great to see. I don't expect any of them to start going to matches mind. MNS has done a huge amount to get peoples attention about the league. A great show on a great time (everything the old TV3 version wasn't)
Delighted for Cook and all the lads. Now the 3 or 4 months of worrying whether we can keep the squad together for next season begins
Do/did the teams actually get a cut of the gate receipts?
I'd guess it's the same as the Setanta Cup - gates minus rent for the stadium.
Apologies if this has been spoken of already (the thread is 21 pages long at this stage), but does anyone know of a list of cup final attendances that can be accessed online?
Found a little snippet of info.
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1990 Bray Wds 3 St Francis 0
Over £20,000 was taken at the turnstiles on the day as 25,000 supporters (the largest crowd since the '68 final) and neutrals were drawn by curiosity at the new cup final venue at Lansdowne and the potential of an upset.
I've a notion it's only been done once in England, away back in the 1910s. It's a remarkable achievement; wasn't even aware Sligo had done it. I'd be surprised if too many teams had done it here. rsssf.com will probably help you out a bit in that regard.
Its been a rough rough few days.
Seeing Turner miss the peno and Tracksuit run up to him after it, gold absolute gold.
GUFC as requested from Galvin & Desmonds Irish Handbook 1993/94.
1921/22 St James Gate v Shamrock Rovers 15000, Replay 10000
1922/23 Alton United v Shelbourne 14000
1923/24 Athlone Town v Fordsons 18000
1924/25 Shamrock Rovers v Shelbourne 23000
1925/26 Fordsons v Shamrock Rovers 25000
1926/27 Drumcondra v Brideville 25000 replay 10000 i
1927/28 Bohemians v Drumcondra 25000
1928/29 Shamrock Rovers v Bohemians 22000 Replay 15000(aprox) i
1929/30 Shamrock Rovers v Brideville 17000
1930/31 Shamrock Rovers v Dundalk 20000 Replay 10000
1931/32 Shamrock Rovers v Dolphin 32000
1932/33 Shamrock Rovers v Dolphin 22000 Replay 18000
1933/34 Cork v St James Gate 21000
1934/35 Bohemians v Dundalk 22000
1935/36 Shamrock Rovers v Cork 30946
1936/37 Waterford v St James Gate 24000
1937/38 St James Gate v Dundalk 30000
1938/39 Shelbourne v Sligo Rovers 30000 replay 25000
1939/40 Shamrock Rovers v Sligo Rovers
1940/41 Cork United v Waterford 30132 replay 13057
1941/42 Dundalk v Cork United 34298
1942/43 Drumcondra v Cork United 30549
1943/44 Shamrock Rovers v Shelbourne 34000
1944/45 Shamrock Rovers v Bohemians 44238
1945/46 Drumcondra v Shamrock Rovers 34248
1946/47 Cork United v Bohemians 20198 replay 5919
1947/48 Shamrock Rovers v Drumcondra 33812
1948/49 Dundalk v Shelbourne 28539
1949/50 Transport v Cork Athletic 27807 replay 21123 2nd replay ?
1950/51 Cork Athletic v Shelbourne 38912 replay 22010
1951/52 Dundalk v Cork Athletic 26479 replay 20753
1952/53 Cork Athletic v Evergreen United 17396 replay 6000
1953/54 Drumcondra v St Patricks Athletic 20000
1954/55 Shamrock Rovers v Drumcondra 33041
1955/56 Shamrock Rovers v Cork Athletic 35017
1956/57 Drumcondra v Shamrock Rovers 30000
1957/58 Dundalk v Shamrock Rovers 27000
1958/59 St Patricks Athletic v Waterford 22000 replay 22800
1959/60 Shelbourne v Cork Hibs 32308
1960/61 St Patricks Athletic v Drumcondra 22000
1961/62 Shamrock Rovers v Shelbourne 32000
1962/63 Shelbourne v Cork Hibernians 15000
1963/64 Shamrock Rovers v Cork Celtic 35500 replay 23600
1964/65 Shamrock Rovers v Limerick 22000 replay 19436
1965/66 Shamrock Rovers v Limerick 26898
1966/67 Shamrock Rovers v St Patricks Athletic 12000
1967/68 Shamrock Rovers v Waterford 39128
1968/69 Shamrock Rovers v Cork Celtic 28000 replay 18000
1969/70 Bohemians v Sligo Rovers 16000 replay 11000 2nd replay 22000
1970/71 Limerick v Drogheda 16000 replay 15000
1971/72 Cork Hibernians v Waterford 22500
1972/73 Cork Hibernians v Shelbourne 12500 replay 11000 ii
1973/74 Finn Harps v St Patricks Athletic 14000
1974/75 Home Farm v Shelboune 10000
1975/76 Bohemians v Drogheda 10400
1976/77 Dundalk v Limerick 17000
1977/78 Shamrock Rovers v Sligo Rovers 12500
1978/79 Dundalk v Waterford 14000
1979/80 Waterford v St Patricks Athletic 18000
1980/81 Dundalk v Sligo Rovers 12000
1981/82 Limerick United v Bohemians 12000
1982/83 Sligo Rovers v Bohemians 8500
1983/84 UCD v Shamrock Rovers 8000 replay 6500 iii
1984/85 Shamrock Rovers v Galway United 7000
1985/86 Shamrock Rovers v Waterford United 11500
1986/87 Shamrock Rovers v Dundalk 8569
1987/88 Dundalk v Derry City 21000
1988/89 Derry City v Cork City 20100 replay 13000
1989/90 Bray Wanderers v St Francis 29000
1990/91 Galway United v Shamrock Rovers 15257
1991/92 Bohemians v Cork City 17000
1992/93 Shelbourne v Dundalk 11000
All matches from 1921/22- 1988/89 at Dalymont Park, replays i at Shelbourne Park, ii Flower Lodge, iii Tolka Park
1989/90-1992/93 at Landsdowne Road
Fair play to the FAI and all involved for getting such a large crowd on Sunday. It's baffling how the same organisation can offer cup final tickets for €10 with great success and then three days later charge €50 for the dross that will be a weak side versus Norway.
There was an argument put forward in the past that the cup final should be a little earlier in the season, but I think Sunday's attendance benefitted from it being the last match of the year. As an example, a busload went up from Waterford because of the cheap tickets and because our season was over so they were looking for something to do. I'm sure that was the same for plenty of others. There was a good bit of publicity around it and they were lucky with the weather.
I didn't go myself, but the atmosphere sounded great on TV. The match itself was fairly good even if it was lacking in chances. I think the league has done well out of MNS, European games and high profile friendlies (even the Man U debacle) because barstooler friends of mine were texting me about the match and recognise the likes of Ndo and Twigg now. I've always thought that the way to promote the league (especially to kids) is to make stars out of the top players.
You can be sure I will. However this wasn't actually the first time for me in Ireland and I've seen already some LOI games live on the ground in the past . Sadly the League is now over and I have to wait till March to come back to Ireland.
I think it was a brilliant Cup Final. Big loud crowd, a very good game despite the lack of goals, dramatic finish, nice headlines in the newspapers next day... so all in all an amazing day. I think all LoI fans can be proud about their League. That was good advertising and it shown again why LoI football is so unique and special - in my mind. The passion of supporters, players an staff (fantastic stuff by Paul Cook when he encouraged the supporters just few minutes before the teams came out of the tunnel), the warm atmosphere in the stadium and the most important thing: main focus is sport!
So it's actually not so easy for me to explain what I really mean (due to the language barrier) but I hope you understand it.
Btw, I had two German mates with me to the final. They had no LoI football experience so far but both were really stunned by the good quality of football (they never thought Irish football could be nice to watch ;) ) and the wonderful atmosphere in the stadium.
Still few words to the game: I've never ever seen before a team like Sligo who has won so well deserved! They were brilliant, but just had not the luck in front of the goal. But Joseph Ndo... what an amazing player. If you love football you must love Ndo. If I would live in Sligo (nice City, indeed ;) ) I would buy a season ticket just to watch him. Really fallen in love since I've seen him the first time for St. Pats some years ago. In the Cup Final Boco was fantastic and Doyle made an unbelievable good job as well.
Some of my pictures: http://img3.imageshack.us/slideshow/...?id=glens7.jpg
Oh man - I'm so used to hearing Irish people talk crap about our own league, you don't know how happy your post just made me feel. (Of course, I'm in a general state of insane happiness since Sunday afternoon anyway)
Yes - lovely post, robertbob. Glad you enjoyed the occasion.
robertop could we possibly have some sort of exchange program where we send our Irish barstoolers over to Germany and we get Germans like you in exchange who actually appreciate football and what it is to support a team.
Great post robertob.
Great to see scenes like this in Irish football.
http://i54.tinypic.com/24o34uu.jpg
And for the record... Sligo is a town, not a city. ;)
Anyway, well done Shligo.
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The town/city thing seems to be a uniquely Irish phenomenon - it's a peculiar piece of madness that we only have 6 cities, one of which doesn't even count. Sure in America the word "City" kicks in at around 30 people. There are farms in the States that have greater legal standing than the likes of Sligo and Dundalk.
Maybe this is the wrong place for that arguement... :)
24 years ago, another goalkeeper saved 4 penalties in a row in the Champions League Final: Barcelona vs Steaua [Romanian commentary]
Taken from http://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osGXE2Aje5Q