Limerick Division 1B 2010/11

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08/02/2011, 10:25 AM
Pegleg5

Then they'll end up in 2A and will have only have played half the games. I can see these lads playing a game every second day once the evening games are back. There is no minor team or C team at Cals. The 14 or 15 lads that are left are the club. Looks as though they'll be expected to play at least 18 games between now and end of the season. They will have to give a walkover in one of the cups as they can't have players who play in both.
08/02/2011, 10:57 AM
gk10

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Originally Posted by Pegleg5

I agree with you GK. As I said earlier, you can't knock the lads who are playing for effort and committment. They are just out of their depth, but it seems to me are expected to compete in 2 divisions at the same time!!!! What I am saying is that a decision needs to be made here, they either just play in 1b or they play in division 4 because what will happen is that with the amount of games ye are expected to play ye'll end up being relegated in 1b and not getting a thing in division 4. A decision needs to be made here and if I was involved with the committe I know I would want the club to stay in 1b.

it was brought up at our committee meeting that this could cost us both but wed rather try and stil get promoted from 4a and try stay up in 1b than pick one over the other weve been lucky so far that both sides havent had a game on the same day its no secret we wont beat the likes of pike and knockainey but i think weve a chance against dromore and herbertstown and 2 wins could be enough problem is some of our better players cant make morning matches so our a team is weaker than our b team imo
08/02/2011, 1:26 PM
da General

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Originally Posted by gk10

it was brought up at our committee meeting that this could cost us both but wed rather try and stil get promoted from 4a and try stay up in 1b than pick one over the other weve been lucky so far that both sides havent had a game on the same day its no secret we wont beat the likes of pike and knockainey but i think weve a chance against dromore and herbertstown and 2 wins could be enough problem is some of our better players cant make morning matches so our a team is weaker than our b team imo

Best of luck anyway with both teams for the season at least it shows that you have a good group of lads that want to play.
08/02/2011, 1:53 PM
Pegleg5

Yeah, best of luck GK. At least the lads that are there now want to actually play for the club and have no exhalted opinions of themeslves like some of the players that were there before.
08/02/2011, 2:03 PM
gk10

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Originally Posted by Pegleg5

Yeah, best of luck GK. At least the lads that are there now want to actually play for the club and have no exhalted opinions of themeslves like some of the players that were there before.

couldnt agree with you more
08/02/2011, 3:33 PM
abbeyvale

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Originally Posted by Pegleg5

Then they'll end up in 2A and will have only have played half the games. I can see these lads playing a game every second day once the evening games are back. There is no minor team or C team at Cals. The 14 or 15 lads that are left are the club. Looks as though they'll be expected to play at least 18 games between now and end of the season. They will have to give a walkover in one of the cups as they can't have players who play in both.

Thats some ask for 15 players, they'll prob give the cup walkover in the 1A cup, coz I don't think your allowed play B players in the divisional cup anyway, and even if they were allowed, they'd have a better chance of winning the Div4 cup than the 1A cup
08/02/2011, 5:02 PM
blueboy2

I suppose the most annoying thing for the Cals management is that all the players that left have only signed for B teams with which makes it hard to understand.
As for fixtures its only a matter of time before the 2 teams are down to play at the same time.
08/02/2011, 10:31 PM
abbeyvale

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Originally Posted by blueboy2

I suppose the most annoying thing for the Cals management is that all the players that left have only signed for B teams with which makes it hard to understand.
As for fixtures its only a matter of time before the 2 teams are down to play at the same time.

Not all
08/02/2011, 10:39 PM
Pegleg5

Good point blueboy- As far as I know 3 players went to Premier clubs and 1 went to a 1A club. The rest either went to Pike B or teams in lower divisions. Considering the strides the club had made over last 3 years, there must have been something seriously wrong at the club or with the team management for so many to leave. That or the players themselves thought they were too good for the club.
08/02/2011, 11:12 PM
blueboy2

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Originally Posted by abbeyvale

Not all

How many of them are playing regular premier football
08/02/2011, 11:15 PM
abbeyvale

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Originally Posted by blueboy2

How many of them are playing regular premier football

Jeffrey Roche with Star is one, who else signed Prem?

I'm not arguing with you, I'm just saying you cant fault a player if he wants to play in the top league,
08/02/2011, 11:28 PM
blueboy2

I understand that but for players to go to Fairview B and Pike B who both have big squads already these players are not going to be picked to play every week so it just doesent make sense especially if your the Cals manager.
08/02/2011, 11:51 PM
lankyboy26

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Originally Posted by blueboy2

I understand that but for players to go to Fairview B and Pike B who both have big squads already these players are not going to be picked to play every week so it just doesent make sense especially if your the Cals manager.

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So does anybody know why they all left??? Must be sickening for the Caledonians committee and club members, after bringing the team up from 2B I think it was. One of the oldest clubs in Limerick
09/02/2011, 11:45 AM
Pegleg5

I spoke to one of the committe at the game on Sunday. He told me they had signed 21 players at the start of the season knowing that the usual 4 or 5 would pack it in once the winter set in, so they had planned to have a squad of about 15/16 committed players. He listed all of the names to me, just jotted them down there and it goes something like this:
Conor Renihan (keeper) emigrated
Nigel Casey - Janesboro
Clifton Carey- Packed in playing
Declan Ryan- works out of town
Jeffrey McNamara- Pike B
Eddie Lee- Pike B
Wayne Lee- Fairview B
Kieran Ryan- Pike B
Jamie McMahon- Geraldines (in fairness one of the last to leave)
Kevin young- stopped turning up
Paul Fitz- Geraldines B
David Fitzmaurice- Aisling
Barry Boland- Emigrated
Jeffrey Hayes- stopped turning up.

All that they have left from original group is Ger Thompson, Ralph Marsh and the lad who played in goals the other day who was supposed to have finished playing last year after an injury to help with training but was thrown in goals
09/02/2011, 11:46 AM
Pegleg5

Oh, and Jeff roche who went to Star
09/02/2011, 12:23 PM
Jofspring

Going by that that technically leaves 9 players still signed on A forms for Cals. It's not up to the LDMC to know whether the players have left the country or stopped showing up. As far as they are concerned those players are Cals A players. That should be enough to satisfy the criteria of having enough players on A forms unless there is a minimum of 11 required.
09/02/2011, 12:34 PM
da General

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Originally Posted by Jofspring

Going by that that technically leaves 9 players still signed on A forms for Cals. It's not up to the LDMC to know whether the players have left the country or stopped showing up. As far as they are concerned those players are Cals A players. That should be enough to satisfy the criteria of having enough players on A forms unless there is a minimum of 11 required.

Ya but another qusetion those B players can not play in the divisional cup? Is this correct?
09/02/2011, 1:46 PM
Jofspring

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Originally Posted by da General

Ya but another qusetion those B players can not play in the divisional cup? Is this correct?

Ya your right the B players can't play in the 1B Cup.

The LDMC might not be too happy with Cals giving a walkover in it.

Is it too late to transfer players up to the A team? I think it is.
09/02/2011, 2:34 PM
da General

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Originally Posted by Jofspring

Ya your right the B players can't play in the 1B Cup.

The LDMC might not be too happy with Cals giving a walkover in it.

Is it too late to transfer players up to the A team? I think it is.

Ya its too late to get a transfer but im not sure if this will apply to an internal transfer within a club.
09/02/2011, 4:01 PM
Edgey

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Originally Posted by da General

Ya its too late to get a transfer but im not sure if this will apply to an internal transfer within a club.

Same dates apply as far as I know. We had one or two lads transfer within the club and we were told it had to be done by 31st January.
09/02/2011, 4:22 PM
mogus

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Originally Posted by Jofspring

Ya your right the B players can't play in the 1B Cup.

The LDMC might not be too happy with Cals giving a walkover in it.

Is it too late to transfer players up to the A team? I think it is.

cals can play there b players, the ldmc cant do anything as long as no objection is put in, corbally were put out of the touhy last year over same thing but only cause balla objected, as far as im concerned if u play b players its not as if you are strenghtening your team, it actually makes u weaker. if i was on cals committee i would play cup (b players or not) and worry about an objection if ye win. if ye dont play and for some reason have to give a walkover later in the season the club will be thrown out and have to re-apply
09/02/2011, 4:44 PM
blueboy2

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Originally Posted by Jofspring

Going by that that technically leaves 9 players still signed on A forms for Cals. It's not up to the LDMC to know whether the players have left the country or stopped showing up. As far as they are concerned those players are Cals A players. That should be enough to satisfy the criteria of having enough players on A forms unless there is a minimum of 11 required.

Maybe the L.D.M.C have seen this as Cals A or B team are not down for a fixture this week.
09/02/2011, 4:47 PM
Jofspring

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Originally Posted by mogus

cals can play there b players, the ldmc cant do anything as long as no objection is put in, corbally were put out of the touhy last year over same thing but only cause balla objected, as far as im concerned if u play b players its not as if you are strenghtening your team, it actually makes u weaker. if i was on cals committee i would play cup (b players or not) and worry about an objection if ye win. if ye dont play and for some reason have to give a walkover later in the season the club will be thrown out and have to re-apply

Not necessarily, some clubs have b players that are better than some of their A players but for different reasons i.e. Kick off times or having their mates playing with the b team, they decide to sign with the b team.
09/02/2011, 8:39 PM
mogus

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Originally Posted by Jofspring

Not necessarily, some clubs have b players that are better than some of their A players but for different reasons i.e. Kick off times or having their mates playing with the b team, they decide to sign with the b team.

i always thought u sign with a club and not a team
09/02/2011, 9:31 PM
gk10

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Originally Posted by mogus

i always thought u sign with a club and not a team

everyones different id rather play with a b team to play for a certain manager or with my friends than an a team where you dont feel happy
11/02/2011, 9:41 AM
Jofspring

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Originally Posted by mogus

i always thought u sign with a club and not a team

I'd be the same as gk, i'd prefer to play with my mates and try win something than play with a load of lads i don't know. Find it more enjoyable. Out in Coonagh we have a different set up to most teams I would think. The A and B teams train together all the time. We don't consider the B team as a feeder team for the A's. We have tried to have two teams that are competitive rather than totally strip the B team for the sake of the A team and have them struggle for numbers as a result. There would be no enjoyment for the players if we did. If the B players are available and are needed they will play for the A team but if the B team have a game as well they will play B not A. What would be the point in training and going out every Sunday if the A team just stripped your team week in week out.
13/02/2011, 12:12 AM
lankyboy26

[QUOTE=gk10;1450728]everyones different id rather play with a b team to play for a certain manager or with my friends than an a team where you dont feel happy[/QUOTE

I think this business of playing with your friends is grand to a certain extent, like when you're younger and new to Junior soccer, it's nice to know a few people, but personally I feel if you're good enough to play in a higher division then you should do it, instead of walking around teams in 3B and 4A etc. Then when you get really old you can go back down the divisions again and mess around!
13/02/2011, 9:43 AM
gk10

[QUOTE=lankyboy26;1452478]

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Originally Posted by gk10

everyones different id rather play with a b team to play for a certain manager or with my friends than an a team where you dont feel happy[/QUOTE

I think this business of playing with your friends is grand to a certain extent, like when you're younger and new to Junior soccer, it's nice to know a few people, but personally I feel if you're good enough to play in a higher division then you should do it, instead of walking around teams in 3B and 4A etc. Then when you get really old you can go back down the divisions again and mess around!

fair point but when theres only one club you want to play for and you can have all your friends on the same team dont see why anyone wouldnt want that iv won trophies with lads i wouldnt really talk to and its not all its cracked up to be
13/02/2011, 1:39 PM
stevieg

murroe 1 caherconlish 3 caherconlish scored all three goals in the first half and had a penalty well saved but should have had double that score at ht murroe came right back into the game after the break and were awarded a penalty which they converted good result for caherconlish and they will be happy with the 3 points
13/02/2011, 3:28 PM
toonfanatic

Cappamore 2 - Dromore 1.

Cappamore up 1 - 0 @ half time... probably deservedly so as they had just about been the more dangerous side in the first half. Goal came from a indirect free kick awarded on the six yard box. It was rifled into the top corner, great finish.
Dromore came much more into the game in the second half, dominated possession and got a deserved leveller after missing a few chances from set-pieces, most noticably corners.
Cappamore responded quite well, with both teams searching for a winner. It became a great game, decided by a 25 yard screamer into the top corner which gave the keeper no chance.

I must say the pitch just outside Cappamore, Bilbao or whatever it is known as, is a fantastic pitch, one of the best in Limerick.
13/02/2011, 4:01 PM
champs09

pike 3 hospital 1
great win for pike as they were down to 10 men after 35 mins for an accidental hand ball on the line a yellow card would have been sufficant, pike keeper saved the penalty but hospital scored the rebound, this made it one all as pike scored a free kick before that. pike were awarded a penalty in the second half 2-1. hospital put on the pressure but never really tested the pike keeper great win for pike.

bar the sending off which was harsh the ref had a fairly good game.
13/02/2011, 6:07 PM
True Supporter

Pike B 3 Hospital 1

Good game, very end to end with Pike just edging it. Pike scored from a F.Hogan free kick. About 10 minutes before half time D.Duffy handled the ball on the line leaving the ref no choice but to send him off. K.Steward saved the penalty but Hospital scored from the rebound. Second half Pike got a dubious penalty in which M.Phelan was taken down. F.Hogan stepped up and scored.Can't give account of the third Pike goal.
13/02/2011, 8:38 PM
rooney10

herbertstown 0-1 knockainey
great win for the away team in a tough and physical local derby..
herbertstown number six should have been sent off twice but yet he ended the game without even being booked..
13/02/2011, 10:29 PM
abbeyvale

O'Neill's Div 1B P W D L F A Pts
Cappamore 12 9 1 2 28 20 28
Caherconlish 13 8 3 2 29 16 27
Knockainey 11 8 1 2 36 16 25
Athlunkard Villa 12 7 3 2 27 19 24
Pike Rvs B 11 7 1 3 23 17 22
Hospital 9 4 2 3 17 16 14
Bruff Utd 11 3 2 6 21 24 11
Murroe 11 3 1 7 17 19 10
Dromore Celtic 11 1 3 7 13 28 6
Herbertstown 11 1 2 8 13 25 5
Caledonians 12 1 1 10 19 43 4

Results
Sun 13/02/11
Pike Rvs B 3-1 Hospital,
Herbertstown 0-1 Knockainey,
Cappamore 2-1 Dromore Celtic,
Murroe 1-3 Caherconlish,

Fixtures
20/02/11
Knockainey v Pike Rvs B, 11.00, O Hayes
Hospital v Murroe, 11.00, M Kirby
Bruff Utd v Athlunkard Villa, 11.00, T Mazur
Caledonians v Herbertstown, 11.00, R Hennessy
17/02/2011, 9:15 AM
Whoisit

Cappamore 2 Dromore 1

Good result for us against a tough Dromore side. Was a though and physical game and the ref did a very good job, that was the second time we had him in two weeks and was very good two weeks ago aswell. Game was end to end and although we lost our ever reliable centre half 'fitz' after 15 mins 'madden' proved up to the challenge. We opened the scoring in the first half when we got an indirect free for a kick in the head on 'mcloughlin' who went to header the ball. Not sure about the rules but was told an indirect free kick instead of a penalty was the correct decision. With 11 Dromore players on the line 'mcloughlin' blasted to the roof of the net. Half Time Cappamore 1 Dromore 0. Second half started with few half chances for both sides. Dromore only looked dangerous from set plays and they got the equaliser 15mins into the second half with a header at the back post. We swaped goalie's after this as we needed the win and brought out our regular striker 'Bubbles'. 10 minutes later 'Bubbles' grabed a screamer when 25 yeads out and he shot off the post and in. The rest of the game proved Dromore on attack wanting an equaliser but we held out. Good result that keeps us top of the table. Fair play to Dromore for good, physical game.
17/02/2011, 9:46 PM
Fairkop

knockainey v pike looks a cracker ,both clubs in a good position in the league,which way will it go?
17/02/2011, 9:57 PM
abbeyvale

Predictions
Knockainey 1 Pike Rvs B,
Hospital 1 Murroe,
Bruff Utd 2 Athlunkard Villa,
Caledonians 1 Herbertstown,
18/02/2011, 10:03 AM
Oneinallin

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Originally Posted by abbeyvale

Predictions
Knockainey 1 Pike Rvs B,
Hospital 1 Murroe,
Bruff Utd 2 Athlunkard Villa,
Caledonians 1 Herbertstown,

Knockainey 2 Pike Rvs B,
Hospital 2 Murroe,
Bruff Utd 2 Athlunkard Villa,
Caledonians 2 Herbertstown

Personally I think pike have the better squad at the moment and will beat knockainey at the weekend. A friend of mine saw them play 2 weeks again and told me they didn't look any bit impressive. Murroe to cause an upset this weekend, they were missing alot of first team players last weekend. Athlunkard will prove too good for bruff. Good game expected against caledonians and herbertstown as both are fighting relegation. Herberstown to shade it.
18/02/2011, 1:58 PM
champs09

Predictions
Knockainey Pike Rvs B, away win
Hospital Murroe, home win
Bruff Utd Athlunkard Villa, draw
Caledonians Herbertstown, away win
18/02/2011, 4:12 PM
rooney10

"A friend of mine saw them play 2 weeks again and told me they didn't look any bit impressive."

who you talkin about knockainey is it?

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