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Originally Posted by noddy102
Completely wrong. Nice guess though
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Originally Posted by noddy102
Completely wrong. Nice guess though
Cork hurlers called, they want their patheticness back
http://inpho.ie/cache/inpho/72/c5/8b...O_00531212.jpg
Thats how fired up the Pats team were before kick-off. Never lost focus, was it?
I am surprised noone has mentioned pete mahon in this. studying the press conference he looks a broken man and I feel he has being caught in the crossfire.. I would expect him to resign over the hassle that this fracas caused to st pats preparations.. Its blatantly obvious that in the Ukraine Pats were not fully focused either..
All parties involved should hang their hands in shame except for Pete Mahon..
Every player should be named and shamed!
Really am shocked with what's gone on. PFAI have ill-advised and led the players to what happened. Should have never come to this.
It's the PFAI - did you expect anything else?Quote:
Originally Posted by robbieos88
And it could get worse!
(heard this on the radio and just found the link)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...w-2840518.html
The Indo today says that PFAI/Players wanted €15,000 for just turning up last night. Bloody disgraceful by the PFAI and players! I wonder how far if I demanded more money to turn up for a normal day at the office.
You sign a contract to play football. It is a job. You adhere to the terms of your contract like everyone else in the workforce. Annual leave is there for practically all jobs. If the players had to go abroad to earn a bit more money on the side by playing football then they should have used their annual leave. No one forced them to take up two jobs!
I hope that no club hires the troublemaker players next season.
Absolute maggots the lot of them. The League only gets a mention on that tabloid radio programme, The Last Word on Today FM, when things are going tits-up, and so it was again last night with Anton Savage talking to Stuart Gilhooly and Miguel Delaney. They'd never cover a position story, or even do a preview of league games - every Fridat, The Last Word on sport goes on about rugby, Gaaaaaahhhhh and the Eng;ish League, but there is never a preview of Airtricity League games. But as soon as there is a bit of scandal, it's all over it like flies to sh!t.
A couple of points jump out on reading that articleQuote:
Originally Posted by Spudulika
(1) the "row" was solely based on apperance money not out of pocket expences (which the Indo say's SPA had no problem with)
(2) Like him or not Kelleher has been one of the few people willing to put his own money into LOI. What message does he (or anyone else thinking of same) get in response ?
LOI supporters are among the most resilient creatures on the planet, constantly bouncing back despite all sanity warning us to run a mile. The LOI survives, not on transient players but on the (apparently) bottomless goodwill and commitment of an ever dwindling bunch of people, many here reading this.
I truely hope that I am not the only one asking how many more times can we continue to shoot ourselves in the foot before the case goes terminal.
PS credit to Pete Mahon for his exemplary handling of an appaling situation for any manager to have to face
MB, it will go on and on and there will always be some gilly (not saying this is GK, he made a massive effort to build the club) who'll ride in for whatever reason to back a club, and more often than not that gilly is a collection of supporters.
Let nobody accuse the media of bias, and "gah heads" having it in for football, when the LOI and FAI provide a never ending stream of stupidity to douse themselves in petrol - self-immolation at some point or other is inevitable.
Pete Mahon showed his class in not condemning any side and getting the job done. I just hope, for Pats sake, he doesn't walk.
The detail reported by Daniel McDonnell in the Indo article puts the actions of the St Pats players and the PFAI in context as being the extortion that most insightfull observers had already suspected.
How the players could even imagine that they had an entitlement to €20,000 for "appearing" against Karpaty is beyond belief.
Ultimately their blackmail has got them an extra €10,000 over what was originally offered. At under €500 each before tax, this is the price they have placed on their tattered reputations.
Even Neale Fenn put a slightly higher figure on his tarnished reputation last year.
These players have brought shame on themselves, and by association on a proud and historic club and it's passionate supporters.
It is a dark day.
Of course the media lap this up - that isn't the problem. I've no problem them covering the negatives, if they ever covered the league in general. If all had been swimmingly in the pats camp, would the match have got anything but the briefest sports bulletin mention? Even when they did cover this negative, they got it completely wrong, with the angle being the club at fault rather than the players. FFS Off The Ball even covered it in their "Football Show" to allow Ken Early to display his complete ignorance of the situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spudulika
So yes, the league regularly shoots itself in the foot, but that in no way gives the media a pass.
I guess that a big question now is how this will affect them for the rest of the season...
Doubt it will affect the players at all - they got their money and dont really see beyond that. PFAI (and hired "legal expert") will no doubt see it as a victory,until of course they require assistance/cooperation from some club.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveyCakes
SPA fans will be mixed until the next big win when all is well again. Hope Pete Mahon can move on as he does not deserve to be a loser in this one.
And the LOI will trundle on to the next disaster........... :eek:
Ok Einstein!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever
Luckily it never came to this situation but there's something I don't really understand if both of these statements are true:
A) If Pat's refused to play, Karpaty would have had to show up at the stadium to be awarded the 'win'
B) If Pat's refused to play they would have had to pay Karpaty's travel costs.
Surely if showing up is essential to be awarded the win then Karpaty should still have had to pay for the cost of them showing up???
Suppose it's just an extra punishment. No harm really.
Face it, the media will cover what sells - doping, violence, greed and stupidity. Corruption, match fixing, whatever gets listeners/viewers/readers. LOI is a minority sport in the country, so something significant has to happen to make the headlines - teams doing well in Europe, big teams in for friendlies, or clubs and the FAI/PFAI committing suicide. The media doesn't need a pass, it's just doing its job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macy
If the club were perceived as being wrong, then shame on the club - why? Because they allowed the wrong type of news out and should have been more proactive - instead the PFAI and their clowns led everyone on a merry dance.
Great post and bang on the money. Not to try and drag Galway United into everything, but the GUFC Management Committee have really let the ball drop by not challenging statements made about how they are running the club by convicted fraudster and former CEO, Nick Leeson. It is all a matter of perception, and if non-LOI people are only hearing one side of the story, and consistently hearing it, then that's what they'll believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spudulika