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10/01/2006, 3:16 PM
OpenGoal

ah for fecks sake. this is getting a bit ridiculous. Does this mean there will be no league matches for clubs invloved in OT on sunday week too???
10/01/2006, 3:28 PM
myleftfoot

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Originally Posted by the boss

Heard Clare were the better side for first half but were lucky in the end to equalise. Mike Heath had great game in goal pulled off a few wonderful saves. Could have been two or three nil if it wasnt for him. Rochford and Davy Wall played very well but rest were only average. You cant expect to win if you don't pick the best players from the premier. How come only one Lifford player in the side and we are the best team in Clare still on top of the premier. McNaboe travelled all the way to Cork but didnt even make the subs bench - a disgrace. Some guy from Corofin brought on - they are not even in the premier. Same thing happened with other Lifford players last year like Anton, Colm Quigley and Damien Quirke.

Unfortunately you can only select eleven. I counted 10 clubs who had at least one player playing on sunday so you cant acuse anyone of bias against Lifford. Its great to see players from outside the premier getting a chance and Paul Oconnor in particular showed hes up to this level. Its a welcome change. Not so long ago Ronaldinho wouldnt get in the Clare team if he wasnt playing for Avenue or Newmarket. However the absence of any Cratloe and Mountshannon players was a surprise. They have a few players who could be worth a try.
10/01/2006, 3:41 PM
Prem Rep!

No games on that weekend, that means Lifford will not have played a League game until at least the 29/01/06. Hard to keep lads on their toes i'd expect. I know we would find it hard to keep lads interested. No easy games left for any of the title challenging teams and it's no easier at the other end of the table. Looks like every team will be battling for every possible point all the way to the end.
10/01/2006, 7:49 PM
plasticpitch

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Originally Posted by myleftfoot

Unfortunately you can only select eleven. I counted 10 clubs who had at least one player playing on sunday so you cant acuse anyone of bias against Lifford. Its great to see players from outside the premier getting a chance and Paul Oconnor in particular showed hes up to this level. Its a welcome change. Not so long ago Ronaldinho wouldnt get in the Clare team if he wasnt playing for Avenue or Newmarket. However the absence of any Cratloe and Mountshannon players was a surprise. They have a few players who could be worth a try.

Agreed... definetley think ray cahill from mountshannon would be worth a game. nothing against pa fahy but there are better players than him in the league maybe gary mcnaboe is worth a go, also manjo from lifford. those 2 guys are athletes and deserve to play. i hope people dont get carried away with the result though as the cork team is a new one also. they had a lot of new players from last year. Davy wall playing up front??? got to question that. yet again hughie is 'experimenting' with his team for big games. folks you gat to agree .. y is an irish junior international midfielder playing upfront??? i can't understand it
11/01/2006, 7:55 AM
old boy

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Originally Posted by plasticpitch

Agreed... definetley think ray cahill from mountshannon would be worth a game. nothing against pa fahy but there are better players than him in the league maybe gary mcnaboe is worth a go, also manjo from lifford. those 2 guys are athletes and deserve to play. i hope people dont get carried away with the result though as the cork team is a new one also. they had a lot of new players from last year. Davy wall playing up front??? got to question that. yet again hughie is 'experimenting' with his team for big games. folks you gat to agree .. y is an irish junior international midfielder playing upfront??? i can't understand it

as far as i know davy played up front for fairview most of his time in limerick and finished leading goal scorer he also has played their for newtown in the past.... hughie probally spoilt for choice with davy & not sure were to play him :p :o
11/01/2006, 8:11 AM
Prem Rep!

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Originally Posted by old boy

as far as i know davy played up front for fairview most of his time in limerick and finished leading goal scorer he also has played their for newtown in the past.... hughie probally spoilt for choice with davy & not sure were to play him :p :o

This is correct, Davy played up front for Fairview. Personally I think in a Clare team that may struggle to score goals, it is the best position for him. He can create chances once you have a hard working midfield.
11/01/2006, 8:43 AM
old boy

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Originally Posted by Prem Rep!

This is correct, Davy played up front for Fairview. Personally I think in a Clare team that may struggle to score goals, it is the best position for him. He can create chances once you have a hard working midfield.

good point

but then again have davy in midfield with 3 hard working midfielders
and he may get more space & create even more chances as he would not have a centre half following him everywere...

nice option for hughie kelly to have ... :confused: :mad:
11/01/2006, 9:29 AM
Clifford

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Originally Posted by myleftfoot

Unfortunately you can only select eleven. I counted 10 clubs who had at least one player playing on sunday so you cant acuse anyone of bias against Lifford. Its great to see players from outside the premier getting a chance and Paul Oconnor in particular showed hes up to this level. Its a welcome change. Not so long ago Ronaldinho wouldnt get in the Clare team if he wasnt playing for Avenue or Newmarket. However the absence of any Cratloe and Mountshannon players was a surprise. They have a few players who could be worth a try.

lads whats with this if you play for avenue oscar traynor bull. avenue have been the most successfull clare team in the last 20 years. therefore it would only make sense that they would be well represented,,,,,, but take 1997 for instance avenue got to semi fai and we had 8,7,6,5,4,3,no we had 2 players on traynor team. ok the following year we had seven but that was more down to a certain manager (4 r 5 of those were new signings). there has also been other years when we had 1r2 on team but warranted more.
there probably has only been 1 r 2 down through the years that can count themselves lucky to be playing for clare but any avenue player on traynor team is there on merit and performance.
its only in the last 5 years or so that other teams outside the big ones are getting more coverage and recognition. and the fact that hugh actually gets off his arse and goes and watches all teams in all divisions.
11/01/2006, 10:06 AM
shelbourne1904

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Originally Posted by Prem Rep!

This is correct, Davy played up front for Fairview. Personally I think in a Clare team that may struggle to score goals, it is the best position for him. He can create chances once you have a hard working midfield.

All his caps for Ireland were at centrefoward,sometimes with only him up front.

What have Clare to do in Skibereen to to get through to next round???
11/01/2006, 10:19 AM
Clifford

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Originally Posted by shelbourne1904

All his caps for Ireland were at centrefoward,sometimes with only him up front.

What have Clare to do in Skibereen to to get through to next round???

all clare need is a draw as west cork lost 1 0 to team clare drew with 1-1, who have gone through.
11/01/2006, 11:02 AM
Prem Rep!

[QUOTE=Clifford]lads whats with this if you play for avenue oscar traynor bull. avenue have been the most successfull clare team in the last 20 years. ]

Nobody is doubting that Avenue deserve to have players on the OT. What we were saying is that they have been the only team who have always been regularly represented. It has improved in recent years but it is not so long ago when the OT was being represented by only 3 or 4 clubs. I think it was only until Hughie was out of the job that a proper audit of the Clare footballing scene was carried out and gave other clubs a chance for represenation. Hughie kept those who impressed but I don't think they would have been given the opportunity without the likes of Ed Corry's influence. I think if Hughie had his way he would be happy to put out the Avenue A side every Sunday (compliment to Avenue by the way). All in all though he has done a good job in his second term!
11/01/2006, 12:39 PM
old boy

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Originally Posted by Clifford

lads whats with this if you play for avenue oscar traynor bull. avenue have been the most successfull clare team in the last 20 years. therefore it would only make sense that they would be well represented,,,,,, but take 1997 for instance avenue got to semi fai and we had 8,7,6,5,4,3,no we had 2 players on traynor team. ok the following year we had seven but that was more down to a certain manager (4 r 5 of those were new signings). there has also been other years when we had 1r2 on team but warranted more.
there probably has only been 1 r 2 down through the years that can count themselves lucky to be playing for clare but any avenue player on traynor team is there on merit and performance.
its only in the last 5 years or so that other teams outside the big ones are getting more coverage and recognition. and the fact that hugh actually gets off his arse and goes and watches all teams in all divisions.

would disagree on a lot of your comments
involved in oscar traynor in earlier years & i can tell you a lot of avenue players included in original panels but would not bother turning up for training session in syntex pitch in clarecastle ... so manager then had to call up new players.... a lot of it then came down to certain managers would not pick avenue players as the assumed they would not turn up... if only they were all like gearoid mannion .. always proud to represent his county :eek: :eek:
11/01/2006, 12:56 PM
Clifford

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Originally Posted by old boy

would disagree on a lot of your comments
involved in oscar traynor in earlier years & i can tell you a lot of avenue players included in original panels but would not bother turning up for training session in syntex pitch in clarecastle ... so manager then had to call up new players.... a lot of it then came down to certain managers would not pick avenue players as the assumed they would not turn up... if only they were all like gearoid mannion .. always proud to represent his county :eek: :eek:

that is a silly attitude to have on both sides. not wanting to play for clare (know some avenue players) and not picking someone cause u thought they wouldn't turn up. back then traynor team was run poor, got poor coverage and set up was a joke. you were lucky to be feed if you did at all. (bit like keano club r country hahah)
in fairness to hugh etc he has turned and its more professionally run and attitudes are changing.
as for mannix the greatest player in the history of avenue, and possably clare, that man is a living legend. i bet he could still do a job for the traynor side.
11/01/2006, 12:58 PM
Clifford

I think if Hughie had his way he would be happy to put out the Avenue A side every Sunday (compliment to Avenue by the way). All in all though he has done a good job in his second term![/QUOTE]

he'd have been more confident of getting 3 points last sunday then.
11/01/2006, 1:01 PM
Clifford

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Originally Posted by Clifford

I think if Hughie had his way he would be happy to put out the Avenue A side every Sunday (compliment to Avenue by the way). All in all though he has done a good job in his second term!

he'd have been more confident of getting 3 points last sunday then.[/QUOTE]

relax only pulling your leg. i'd be quiet happy if there was no avenue and players from 3rd 2nd division on it. if your good enough and the best player for that position, i wouldn,t have a problem who they played with. go on the banner.
11/01/2006, 1:51 PM
old boy

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Originally Posted by Clifford

that is a silly attitude to have on both sides. not wanting to play for clare (know some avenue players) and not picking someone cause u thought they wouldn't turn up. back then traynor team was run poor, got poor coverage and set up was a joke. you were lucky to be feed if you did at all. (bit like keano club r country hahah)
in fairness to hugh etc he has turned and its more professionally run and attitudes are changing.
as for mannix the greatest player in the history of avenue, and possably clare, that man is a living legend. i bet he could still do a job for the traynor side.

yes would agree with the mannix part.... but again every club
have their own legends .. but very few would match mannix
11/01/2006, 2:56 PM
Clifford

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Originally Posted by tommy

Dave wall scored over 40 goals for fairview 2-3 seasons ago.We dont have a better striker in clare.Maybe u should have been playing plasticpitch......

the man could play in goals and still be quality.
he stood out in newtown oly game by a mile.
11/01/2006, 6:13 PM
plasticpitch

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Originally Posted by tommy

Dave wall scored over 40 goals for fairview 2-3 seasons ago.We dont have a better striker in clare.Maybe u should have been playing plasticpitch......

well i stand corrected.. i'm glad we have a player of his ability . just don't know if we have the players to create for him. when he was at fairview i'm sure they had a very strong team and won the fai on a couple of occasions... just thinking that he might get more goals from midfield where he will be on the ball more
12/01/2006, 1:07 PM
loose cannon

I would think that a midfield of lawlor,O'Malley, Jocks and John Ryan would probably be as good as clare can offer, provided Davy wall is up front. They offer a good balance in the middle of the park,creative and competitive what more do you want? or who else?
12/01/2006, 2:15 PM
First

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Originally Posted by old boy

yes would agree with the mannix part.... but again every club
have their own legends .. but very few would match mannix

Lads lets not build up Mannix to something he wasn't , he was a decent player and from what I remember playing against him the only thing he was legendary for was his big mouth.

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