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TheOneWhoKnocks
Lost in all the self-congratulation and validation arising from McCarthy's injury is that Naismith, Barry, Distin, Stones, Barkley, Baines, Pienaar and Mirallas have all missed game time within the last two months due to injury, yet there only seems to be so much analysis and introspection over it when McCarthy is involved.
Self-congratulation and validation? Rather than letting it slip under the carpet, I simply wanted you to admit you might have been unreasonable for once, but even now you're still clutching at straws. It's desperate.
And, indeed, why would we waste time going through the injuries of non-Irish players? What's their relevance?
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McCarthy, under some pressure from his, club elected not to.
Where's your evidence for this?
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Their injury problems are so bad this season that McCarthy's knock against Wolfsburg may be unrelated to the one accrued before the Scotland game.
It's not. It's the same hamstring. It don't think he took a knock either. It's an ongoing soft-tissue problem. My understanding is that he pulled up on thirty minutes or so and had to come off. Maybe someone who saw it can confirm this?
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It would certainly explain why they felt the urge to start him twice in the space of <5 days. Indeed their injury problems are such this season that perhaps they should look inward and worry about their own medical teams expertise rather than complaining about players representing their country!
Everton haven't complained about their players representing their country. Have you got quotes? Why do you just make stuff like this up? It's beyond ridiculous now.
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If I'm paranoid, what is Martin O'Neill then?
O'Neill doesn't hold the same views on this as you do.
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People said we should take Everton's word for it & reserve diplomacy when Coleman & McCarthy missed the Germany game. Then they blamed our guys incompetence for not being more assertive about analysing their fitness. Then they say McCarthy knows his own body such and such this and that after our guys get to analyse him and judge him to be ready for the Scotland game.
Who said we should have taken Everton's word and reserved diplomacy? I don't think anyone said that. You're just erecting straw-men again. If we didn't enforce our right to call players over for assessment when we were sceptical, we've no-one to blame but ourselves. That's always been my position.
And haven't events since proved that James was possibly justified in his concern for his own body? A doctor can assess his leg but he can't actually feel what James himself feels.
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Yes, McCarthy didn't train enough to realistically put himself into contention but that's the rub. When he should have been given the same training regiment as everybody else you had all this pussyfooting about because of Everton sticking their beaks in.
He wasn't fit enough to train. Where are you getting this stuff about Everton sticking their beaks in? Provide evidence of this.
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Who knows? Maybe I am judging Martinez too harshly because of some of his past behaviors! I said that in the very first comment related to this entire subject. It would have saved everybody a lot of hassle if they took that into consideration at the start!
What past behaviours exactly would warrant you holding prejudice against him or a feeling that he has it in for us or would rather McCarthy not playing for us?
Now, for heaven's sake, please stop trying to squirm your way out of this and just admit you were wrong because you'd jumped to rash conclusions without being fully informed.
