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That's trueQuote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
If you think that, across the two games, Idah, Connolly, O'Dowda, McGoldrick, Long, and Robinson all got gametime up front, and as I said Maguire didn't see a minute, why was Obafemi not considered?
I'd have him ahead of O'Dowda and Maguire, and he had started ahead of Long for Southampton after the restart.
The "I didn't call him because he wasn't capped under McCarthy is a cop out too - we don't have enough premier league players that we have the luxury of ignoring one on a whim.
Kenny's attitude with Obafemi was bordering on the ridiculous. He had Parrott and Idah in the squad who had far less game time over the course of the season (Parrott barely got on the pitch). He then called Maguire up, a 26 year old who is miles off International standard at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
His excuse that Obafemi had never played as a lone striker alone up front and that was the reason for not calling him up was also nonsense. Parrot had never played that role at any meaningful level either whilst Idah had very few minutes in that role as he was mainly brought on when Norwich were chasing the game and they often had Pukki or Drmic on the pitch.
Surely the training camp was an opportunity to start bedding these players into these unfamiliar roles. Duffy clearly has never learned to distribute the ball from the back at his club either so should he have been excluded from the squad also?
Anyway it backfired in a big way in my opinion. His attack over both games was toothless and if Kenny seriously believes that replacing O'Dowda with Obafemi in the second half against Bulgaria or in the starting lineup against Finland would have made it any worse then I worry for the next few years.
@tets, I'm not sure. All 6 of the players you reference are able to fill defined roles in Kenny's system. Maguire plays wide quite a lot for Preston too.
I would have called him up myself. But I'm not the manager. I'm leaning towards giving Kenny the benefit of the doubt but I definitely see merit in your points ,tets
If obafemi had come on with mcgoldrick we surely would have had a better chance of drawing the game v FinlandQuote:
Originally Posted by youngirish
Bamford is having a good game. Watchin' it on espn+ Argentina. He is a bright player, has football brain, but as fast as a snail. Very intelligent though, for that position, he has good movements, attacks the empty spaces cleverly, but doesnt have a bit of pace to make him better. For me is very similar to Hogan and Collins but playing under Bielsa in an attacking team makes Patrick a better footballer
An Anthony Driscoll-Glennon features on the bench for Burnley.
A quick google tells me he's a left-back from Bootle.
I wonder if he qualifies.
I see Cj Hamilton bagged both goals for Blackpool in a 2-0 win against Swindon yesterday.
Liam Delap is on the bench for City tonight against Wolves. Turned 17 in February.
Theres a few Man City youth players on the bench today which is good to see. Hopefully Joe Hodge has a route to 1st team there if he continues how he is going. There is a Thomas Doyle on the bench today, is there any Irish Connection there?
Doubt it. Both of his grandfathers played for Man City and are English-born so the Doyle name isn't even a help there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Liam Delap eligible though
Jamie O'Hara.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bielsa´s irish
This guy is highly rated at Spurs and has already been on the bench for them this season in the Premier League.
https://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/tea...dennis-cirkin/
Anybody know why he prefers to play for the old enemy even though he was born in Ireland? Are his parents English? If not then shame on them.
Both parents are Latvia and he represented them at U13 level according to this.Quote:
Originally Posted by youngirish
https://m.facebook.com/BalticFootbal...61461497395414
Peter Kioso is another Dublin born right back. He is starting tonight for Luton against United in the EFL cup.
Fair enough. He probably won't be too keen then to jump onboard unless things don't work out for him at England.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe_denilson
According to this - https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/08/0...ungster-peter/ - he declared for the DR Congo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
But, it's the only article I can find, and I can't find any call up for him to the DR Congo team
He looks a good player anyway. I wouldn't be surprised to see him push on as a player. It is clear that he isn't the most polished player but he has a drive and all action industry that reminds me of Stephen Carr. Showed a willingness to tackle and get forward in equal measures and always looked to advance the play.
James Shea was in goal and made some nice saves but he is very small for a keeper, as I'm sure he's been told.
A touch taller than Shay Given ! (I realize Shay wasn’t the tallest but just saying!)Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
He was very poor for Greenwood's goal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
Liam Delap scores tonight for Man City
I am frantically trying to find those quotes- the quotes where Delap passionately states his kids would pick Ireland.
lets get Rory on the phone and pronto! Trap really bottled it with Rory once he recovered his injury.
If we cant nick this guy out of the english we are doomed. This guy has his entire family from Ireland, weve got there the whole nine yards.
What Rice and Grealish did to the national team as a whole is unforgivable, they cheapen Eire , in a way they didnt realize.
Is there even a 10% chance he will declare for us?
there may be a way, dont understand those guys from England with a strong irish background. Dont they know England can only name 23 guys each time?
https://www.irishpost.com/sport/rory...w-weapon-19520
From the article in 2014:
“They’ll listen to him quicker than they will me,” laughed Delap. “But you hope the importance of being Irish resonates with them. It meant everything to me growing up. We’ve gone back to the same places I went to when I was a child in Donegal and Meath. They loved it.
"Their granddad has drilled it into them that if they’re any good at anything, it’s Ireland they have to represent. When he said it, they took it all in. So that’s one issue done and dusted then.”
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Originally Posted by Olé Olé
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well he has good attitude from today. Tough uncomprimised, not a finesse number 9, but a bit of Hernán Crespo in him, he even looks like him, when Hernán was a teenager and sold to Parma.
He scored a Batistuta goal tonight. now Rory do your promise
I'd imagine that Delap has previously been approached and since he's still with England has decided to play for them. Would be harder to get him now he's on the fringes of Citys 1st team
Sorry still trying to understand the new eligibility situation. As he's third generation, if he hasn't been registered as an Irish citizen before representing England, would he still be eligible for us?
I think that nonsense is now gone. I think...Quote:
Originally Posted by boovidge
That wouldn't be a problem at this point for Delap because he hasn't turned 21. It's not completely gone though - if a player plays for another country's underage teams after their 21st birthday and didn't have Irish citizenship before their first appearance for that country (even if that was back at 16 or 17 years of age) they would still be ineligible for us. As you can play under 21 up to the age of 23 at times this could still be an issue for us at some point.
Just heard the news there on Todayfm and Phil Collins was referring to Delap and his son and the goal. I reckon this is going to get noisy for a while if this kid kicks on. Early days though. Which might mean it rumbles on longer!
Maybe the Genesis of something !Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
At least this time, he's theirs to lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
I think the way England (and specifically Gareth Southgate) led Grealish up the garden path will help us in the long term. No matter what England promise you obviously can't believe a word they say.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/worl...-law-1.4360907Quote:
Originally Posted by backstothewall
You can say that again!
Yes, right now on all the English football forums, fans are fretting about the possibility of Delap scoring a hat-trick on his debut, only to defect to us a couple of months laterQuote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
if a guy with a name such as Liam Delap cant get a game for Ireland theres something wrong in football.
England is capping guys from Cananda, Jamaica, Trinidad and Tobago..... had capped guys from Australia in the past.
We must nick Rory's son from angelterre