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Were you not aware of our tried-and-tested methods of persuasion; abuse, intimidation and threats?Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Some of the lads on the Scotland boards are really funny, I have to say.
Crosby is it true you are 10 times more likely to get bitten by a new yorker than a Shark?
My nephew bit me yesterday but he lives in jersey. Have you ever seen the show Shark Tank though? Its not bad.
Do you think if the NFL put a team in London full time, that it would be successful?
Is Crosby American American or cash-in-hand, can't go back to the auld sod or he won't be let back in American?
Why, you think I have Ebola?
Brilliant.
It surprises me how many Irish follow the NFL and come to wembley. I think there is nothing more trip than an Irish guy in an NFL jersey walking around central london or drinking pints in Central London pubs wearing one.
I think it works well as a few one-off games I dont think the interest would be there for a whole season because its not really London thats snapping up the tickets its the whole of the UK and Ireland, they make a weekend out of it.
You should be able figure out from his posts that he is a full scale narrowback.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
:P only joking Crosby.
Basketball and Hockey are far more accessible than American football and Baseball; the latter two being more of the American pastime variety.
I find it hard to believe that Irish people can just pick it up, follow it and understand it properly enough to get the most of it in their twenties or thirties. It's convoluted as f.
You can go to a Basketball or Hockey game not having to study the intricacies of it like a Quantum Physics exam - and even get to see John McEnroe in the courtside seats.
Then again, I say this, but I have seen half a dozen people who probably never heard of UFC a year ago copying Conor McGregor's man bun over the weekend in Dublin.
That's in San Jose. I cannot wait to check out a game there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
My reading is similar but different in that it's Europeans and a load of Yanks coming to the games.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
There is no way would the novelty sustain in the long-term.
LA is priority for the NFL at the minute and Oakland are doing a good job if convincing them that they suck enough to move back.
Accessible as in the rules?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
All sports are relatively simple you'll find. It's the nuance of them that takes time to master.
As a hockey fan of a few years standing it is really only in the last year with a period living in Canada that I'm picking up on certain idiosyncrasies. Same with watching Gridiron for the last 20 years or so.
By the time HT rolled around yesterday in the Lions-Falcons game my dad was calling out false starts and passing interference. It's not that hard to get if you have a passing interest in sports. Incidentally he hates rugby and is pretty much a football, soccer and horse racing guy so he has little interest in any vaguely similar sports.
Baseball is the simplest sport of all. One guy throws the ball at another guy with a stick. That guy attempts to hit it and then runs if he does.
Sure there are certain things that are different or new to the passing viewer but they aren't important on initial viewing. The same way that when you watch crickey learning the difference between yorker, mid-off and spin-bowling is irrelevant at the start.
I find it hard to believe that you find that hard to believe.Quote:
I find it hard to believe that Irish people can just pick it up, follow it and understand it properly enough to get the most of it in their twenties or thirties. It's convoluted as f.
The calls in American Football made by the ref are very clear. Compare that with some of the decisions in a rugby union match; going in off the feet, offside, crooked put in, collapsing the scrum, holding on, advantage... Tell me that you have never missed those calls or wondered what the hell a ref was seeing?
What the hell?Quote:
You can go to a Basketball or Hockey game not having to study the intricacies of it like a Quantum Physics exam - and even get to see John McEnroe in the courtside seats.
What;s it to you?Quote:
Then again, I say this, but I have seen half a dozen people who probably never heard of UFC a year ago copying Conor McGregor's man bun over the weekend in Dublin.
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So this James McCarthy fellow?
Where would the team play in LA though Bon Bon? Dont say the Coliseum. That's not happening. At least the London crowd got an entertaining game, which certainly cemented the Falcons coach getting whacked any day now.
I have no idea my dear Crosby. It still doesn't stop LA being the priority for the NFL. London is a nice distraction but there is no way that it will get off the ground.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
Stick them in Dodgers or Angel Stadium while they work that out.
And yes it's probably time for Smitty to get gone at this stage. Yesterday was almost Stephen Kenny-esque.
Not convoluted at all. You get four opportunities to advance the ball ten yards (markings are even on the field to show yard by yard). If a team doesn't convert (advance the ball) in first three attempts they will generally punt the ball away. There are one or two flags more than fans would like this season, but all in all one of the most exciting games in sports (soccer and rugby included). Just came back from an NFL game a few hours ago - fantastic.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
On another note, for those of us who criticise Premier League referees, they should note that NFL referees have the chance to see things in replay and still get the call wrong.
And when they are they don't ref again!
HQ in NYC are in contact with them for any replayed or contentious decisions.
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So James McCarthy?
I see Barry was stretchered off. Baffling. Wasn't that supposed to be James? Martinez trying to lead us off the scent again clearly, but we're on to him. He's obviously agreed with James that he'll pick up his injury-to-keep-him-out-of-Glasgow in the second half...
Aye, and some are in for a big shock on Friday, when they see how useful we are. I've read lots of ridiculous posts saying they'll bag 3 easy points.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
Uh oh...
Looks like a pulled hamstring.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
He conceded a corner after that so it mustn't have been too bad... Please God not.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29868801
He cleared the ball off the line too afterwards, and looked mobile enough. Think it's nothing to worry about. Fingers crossed!
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Everton tweeted that he has picked up a hamstring injury, quoted Martinex saying "It is a concern, he needs assessing and hopefully it is just fatigue."
Sigh. He was their stand-out player today. Put him in bubble wrap for the rest of the week please.
Martinez will no doubt all in his power to ensure james is not available
Let's face it. If it was an Everton game on Friday he would probably be available but we're going to have to plan without him on Friday. It was a formality that Martinez would start this carry on anyway.
Let the FAI decide if he can play.
Is there really a conspiracy with Martinez or is it a running joke on here? Does he have a record of holding back players from international duty? Bit confused!
It's a running joke amongst the sane, less so amongst the insane.
Oh. I must have been imagining Mark Hughes giving Glenn Whelan permission to link up with the Ireland squad despite not having trained with his club since his injury, Coleman & McCarthy starting days after they missed the Germany game having not been sent for assessment by the FAI and Martinez taking a, frankly, bizarre stance during the time period when McCarthy "was considering his Intl. future". To these eyes and ears it looked more like Martinez was asking him to consider it. Compare Mark Hughes actions with Martinez's.
Maybe I am insane or paranoid but give people enough ammunition and all that.
It's been a running joke since long before your time TOWKy boy. Check out the Jimmy Mac thread from before he finally mad his début for us. Madness.
Admittedly there's enough ammunition to show there's enough basis for your concern. And to be honest since the maddening stance back in the day about James I have never warmed to Martinez despite all the good he did with Wigan and subsequently Everton. That I have a huge soft spot for Everton has somewhat alleviated any full-blown resentment towards him.
But why conveniently ignore the fact that McCarthy and Coleman did miss Everton's two games which preceded our internationals, one of which was at Old Trafford? There were clearly injuries there. Martinez is employed by Everton, obviously he's going to advise or insist that they don't play if it could cause further damage. And to be honest, if McCarthy, Coleman or whoever aren't men enough to insist on playing, if fit, then you'd have to question their commitment full stop, which I don't for one second.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
Martinez has a Scottish wife..... or is it a Scot wife? a wife who is a Scot?
McCarthy missed that game primarily because of fatigue (fatigued quad). Coleman's injury was minor. There is no reason why they shouldn't have been at least assessed by the FAI medical team. I don't think there was enough honesty on Martinez side as to the extent of their injuries. I believe MON has hinted at this.
It's up to the FAI, I presume, to insist on getting them checked. How is it Martinez's fault if they don't? Listen TOWK, you're making a lot of assumptions. The injuries may have been minor, but there may also have been a chance of aggravating the injuries. You're only speculating, guessing and assuming but basing it on very little. The injuries can't have been that minor if Martinez wasn't willing to risk two of his most important players for a crucial game at OT.
There is no speculation about the injuries being minor. They were. Did McCarthy technically even have an injury? They could have been aggravated but they were not serious enough to definitively rule them out of the Germany game so they should have been sent for assessment. That's partly the fault of the FAI's but you can be forgiven for thinking that Martinez wanted to use the International break to extend their rest period. And rotation is used by top EL teams - Liverpool just rested half their first team against Madrid. Maybe Martinez, again, just used the International break for Everton's benefit but the players have a duty to play for their country if they are able. Maybe maybe maybe. What do you think of MON's comments? Presumably he would have a better idea on Everton's transparency than we do.
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Originally Posted by DeLorean
Im hearing Martinez himself hopes to Line out against us for Scotland!!!!
Some serious amount of nonsense about Martinez been posted on here
I thought MON sounded slightly suspicious but willing to give the benefit of the doubt. What do you think of Coleman and McCarthy missing important games for Everton before the internationals? You can't honestly put it down to squad rotation when they've been ever present otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
What does that even mean? Either he's injured (which he was) or he isn't, what would qualify an injury, or lack thereof, as a "technical" injury?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
In fairness, most of the Martinez stuff is tongue in cheek. Obviously if anyone was at fault(which is debatable) it would have been up to our Manager to Manage the situation. Club managers influence can be largely circumvented.Quote:
Originally Posted by back of the net
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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Seemingly anything that doesn't back up TOWK's world view.
I hope I didn't jinx it! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
But nobody's stopping the FAI from deciding. The FAI are fully entitled to call James over for examination if there is an injury concern there. Why are you trying to foist responsibility for this onto Martinez? If he's bull****ting, the FAI doctor will call him up on it. Ergo, I don't think he's bull****ting because I don't think it would be worth his while to do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
They both missed games for Everton due to the problems. And it's the fault of the FAI if the association didn't enforce their right to call them over.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
What was the "bizarre stance" exactly and what gave you the impression that Martinez was trying to place pressure upon James? Did he express a stance at all? If indeed he was trying to pressure James (and I don't think he was), for someone who bears such influence over the lad, it clearly didn't work.Quote:
...Martinez taking a, frankly, bizarre stance during the time period when McCarthy "was considering his Intl. future". To these eyes and ears it looked more like Martinez was asking him to consider it.
But it's still paranoia.Quote:
Maybe I am insane or paranoid but give people enough ammunition and all that.
It's not up to Everton to send them. It's up to the FAI to call them over. There were clearly problems there. They missed crucial games due to the injuries/fatigue. How can you dismiss the veracity of the claims so nonchalantly when Martinez kept them out of his own squads? Grand deception, was it?...Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
I'm sure he would, but so what? That's his job. He's a football manager and his professional duty is to protect the interests of the football team he is managing and the interests of that team only. If those interests happen to clash with the interests of the FAI, it's up to the FAI to stand their ground. Martinez's wishes are irrelevant really. I don't know why you're making such an issue about him.Quote:
That's partly the fault of the FAI's but you can be forgiven for thinking that Martinez wanted to use the International break to extend their rest period.
Don't you know, it's like how Kevin Grealish made his son available for our US friendly, but not technically...Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Give it a rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Give the same old sophistry a rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks