2022 Season, Arrivals and Departures

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Originally Posted by RealJohn91

Good to see fans of other clubs completely ignoring his legitimate point that's also affecting their teams just cause they don't like him

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I see his point but don't think he offers a realistic solution. If all clubs agreed to prevent low release clauses, any player with ambitions of going over the water would just sign a one year deal and leave for nothing at the end of the year. What is a low release clause anyway? How much is it? In my mind the value of the release clause should have some relationship to the value of the player's contract. Why should a player sign a contract with a higher release clause that would be multiples of the what the club think the player is worth when they're sitting down to negotiate his wages?

I see the problem for the clubs but I'd be firmly on the side of players here. Would be interesting to see what the PFAI would think of such a proposal.

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Originally Posted by RealJohn91

Good to see fans of other clubs completely ignoring his legitimate point that's also affecting their teams just cause they don't like him

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Maybe he has a point but it'd be easier to take him seriously if he wasn't constantly talking about bohs turning a profit John. Why not give players better deals?

He should be just as worried about constantly losing players to a team within your own league for nothing to be honest. At least you got something for Devoy and Omochere. You should be the ones getting 200k+ for Lyons if that goes through.

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Originally Posted by LOI101

I see his point but don't think he offers a realistic solution. If all clubs agreed to prevent low release clauses, any player with ambitions of going over the water would just sign a one year deal and leave for nothing at the end of the year. What is a low release clause anyway? How much is it? In my mind the value of the release clause should have some relationship to the value of the player's contract. Why should a player sign a contract with a higher release clause that would be multiples of the what the club think the player is worth when they're sitting down to negotiate his wages?

I see the problem for the clubs but I'd be firmly on the side of players here. Would be interesting to see what the PFAI would think of such a proposal.

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One year contracts would put a lot of risk onto the player. If Mandriou (for example) didnt perform last year, maybe he would then be out of contract and taking a big drop in his next contract. Having a low-release clause solves that problem... They have longer security (with a contract in LOI), and still can leave anytime to England.

No issue with clubs working together to end it.

What Lambert is suggesting sounds like a form of cartel. I doubt the players or the competition authority would be massively happy with it.

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Originally Posted by ontheotherhand

Maybe he has a point but it'd be easier to take him seriously if he wasn't constantly talking about bohs turning a profit John. Why not give players better deals?

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Bohs are spending seven figures on their playing budget this season for the first time since 2010. We're offering and paying players very good deals.

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Originally Posted by RealJohn91

Bohs are spending seven figures on their playing budget this season for the first time since 2010. We're offering and paying players very good deals.

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Are Bohs still part-time?

Might want to give that a bit of time then. If you're offering better you should see more players staying and better fees if/when they leave. Should have done it after you finished second imop as you may have gone on to challenge but Lambert has had his other priorities.

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Originally Posted by ontheotherhand

Should have done it after you finished second imop as you may have gone on to challenge but Lambert has had his other priorities.

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Yeah I really hope he improves his tactical knowledge and gets his recruitment sorted finally so we can push on, 🙄.

Jaysus will the narrative he has any impact on the playing side of our club ever end? Gas thing is with the success he's had in raising the profile of the club and the increase in revenue he's probably being headhunted by clubs all around Europe.

Only part of the club that's operating at the highest level it can is the commercial part and that's all down to him and his team but I guess his priorities are elsewhere...

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Originally Posted by RealJohn91

Yeah I really hope he improves his tactical knowledge and gets his recruitment sorted finally so we can push on, .

Jaysus will the narrative he has any impact on the playing side of our club ever end? Gas thing is with the success he's had in raising the profile of the club and the increase in revenue he's probably being headhunted by clubs all around Europe.

Only part of the club that's operating at the highest level it can is the commercial part and that's all down to him and his team but I guess his priorities are elsewhere...

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He doesn't have a say in the playing budget? Why is he talking about clubs banding together to change how football contracts work then?

https://bohemianfc.com/?p=18389

Interesting from Bohs who are ending their exclusivity agreement with Kevin’s and moving to an affiliate model with different clubs….

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Originally Posted by RealJohn91

Good to see fans of other clubs completely ignoring his legitimate point that's also affecting their teams just cause they don't like him

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Fans of his own club are doing a good enough job of that to be fair.

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Originally Posted by joey B

https://bohemianfc.com/?p=18389

Interesting from Bohs who are ending their exclusivity agreement with Kevin’s and moving to an affiliate model with different clubs….

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That would seem trickier to manage for Dublin clubs than those in rural areas in terms of geographic affiliation, though Shamrock Rovers would have things notably easier in that regard now?

Lambert is doing his usual deflection (bit like his letter condemning Rovers fans for throwing flares etc after a crap showing in the last derby in Dalymount) I still think someone in the Rovers set up should have sent a letter out condemning Bohs fans for throwing flares after we beat them in Tallaght but purely for the wind up.
Bohs have lost Promise and Devoy with buy out clauses, Lyons for nothing, ditto Danny but rather than admit his own failings and Longs poor management he starts talking about it as an insurmountable one for the whole league.
He gave 008 a 4 year contract , enough said.
Rovers had one low buyout , Danny which was understandable as we were desperate to replace Jack who had gone to Cyprus.
15 goals and a league later i'm happy enough and good luck to Danny
Sligo sold Kenny but with a decent buyout and add ons reportedly.

I'm surprised to see one of the commissariat suggesting measures to keep the working mans opportunities to better himself but maybe he is turnig into a smoked salmon socialist.

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Originally Posted by RealJohn91

Yeah I really hope he improves his tactical knowledge and gets his recruitment sorted finally so we can push on, .

Jaysus will the narrative he has any impact on the playing side of our club ever end? Gas thing is with the success he's had in raising the profile of the club and the increase in revenue he's probably being headhunted by clubs all around Europe.

Only part of the club that's operating at the highest level it can is the commercial part and that's all down to him and his team but I guess his priorities are elsewhere...

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Are you deluded ? no professional club is going to want someone who spouts Palestinian and every right on cause under the sun. that plays well with the hipsters but not professional set ups. When was the last time you saw Dortmund playing in a bob marley shirt or a bus seat;)

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Originally Posted by placid casual

That's bad news for Rovers alright. Where are we going to find a replacement for the ageing Mannus.. 😳

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The Shamrock fan entitlement, still alive and well. He was never gonna sign for another LOI club. He wanted a shot at the UK and loved Sligo so always said he'd stay till he got the move. He was true his word.

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Originally Posted by redobit

The Shamrock fan entitlement, still alive and well. He was never gonna sign for another LOI club. He wanted a shot at the UK and loved Sligo so always said he'd stay till he got the move. He was true his word.

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Its hardly entitlement to look at players at other clubs and want to sign them, thats kind of being a fan really.
Problem is there is a dearth of decent goalkeepers available.
Rovers may have to go doen the road of looking for a loanee from the UK to find a replacement for Manus IF he is retiring.
Looking at him this season id be happy if he kept going compared to what is available

No issue with buy out clauses, Lambert is just looking to cover the fact they lost Mandriou and Lyons to us for free and they delivered us titles and cash. Boo hoo.

The Mandriou buy out was ridiculous but as others have stated Rovers made a business decision that paid off.

My view is that this is now a young man’s league and we’re all the better for it. So what if Promise, McGinty and Lyons go, just means more opportunities for other players.

Clubs need to adjust to the new reality and IMO most clubs are, just because Bohs can’t win anything and can’t hold on the their players is not everyone else’s problem.

My only gripe is that I wanted us to sign Promise and McGinty but you know what, that’s football and we’ll find other players.

Still can't get over the comisariet looking to limit workers options, next they will be looking for a maximum wage. The revolution is coming.

Yep but it's not just deflection I don't think. He's a savvy operator in fairness and he knows the podcasts have been full of comments by fans about players leaving. It's an attempt to get in the news cycle. If the clubs did band together he'd look like a leader and if they don't he looks like his progressive ideas are being ignored by greedy clubs like Rovers etc. In reality nothing will happen that wouldn't have organically happened either way but right now he has bohs in the paper.

He's smart enough to know that those better deals John mentioned above are what will drive higher transfer fees. It's funny that so many of the players leaving on the "cheap" have actually been at bohs. Maybe they just learn to have an escape route planned?

Maybe there is a club out there looking for a ceo to run the club who's team has never won a bottle top and the manager allows its bests players to leave for nothing or next to nothing but I doubt it.