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so thats Celtic, Everton, Newcastle, Cardiff, Wolves and Sunderland that have been linked with stokes so far. surely one of them will come in with an official bid and it will be interesting to see arsenals reaction.
i must say im suprised Watford havent been linked yet, what with one fit, yet relatively untalented out and out striker at the club
Stokes has already said that he has no interest in a loan move to another Premiership club. Would be very surprised to see Arsenal sell him to another Prem club. At the moment, the most likely outcome is an extension to his loan deal at Falkirk.
Not what i heard, and considering that my source is a slightly more reliable one than you have i think ill believe that stokes would go on loan to a premiership club
in case you dispute this, my source is infact stokes himself
Wwwwwwwwoooooooooo. Are you Stokes oul lad?Quote:
Originally Posted by FootballsKing
We have to put up with some serious langers on this forum!
Quotes from Stokes, reported in Scotland on Sunday.
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"I was 15 when I first went over to train and I was in awe," he says. "But you get used to it and the limelight is taken off because you are working at your game. You don't think 'hey, I'm playing here with Henry'. That might be because even when coming over at first I did train an awful lot with the first team.
"Of course, when there are bigger games coming up it is mainly just the players who are going to play who train together. But Arsenal almost have two first-team squads. It is hard because of that but it but helps you improve. As a youngster especially, you want to be playing with the top players in the world and I have done that.
"The tempo you play at is not going to get any higher. You are not going to go to another club where they are going to move the ball quicker or have better passing skills. So you are playing right at the top and the only way is down. "
And teenagers, unless they have cost £12m like the young Irishman's team-mate Theo Walcott, can find themselves sliding down rapidly through becoming lost at so monumental an organisation. "Of course that can happen," Stokes says. "But you want to start at the top of the ladder; give yourself the best chance. I didn't want to go to a lower Premiership club because where do you go after if things don't go right? You want to strive to be the best you can be. I am with one of the best teams in Europe and I want to see if I can play here. I hope the experience of Arsenal will stand me in good stead whether I stay there or move on."
Is there any chance of that Stokes interview on Sky Sports news being posted on YouTube?
Anyone see how Cregg played yesterday?
Does anybody else think Stokes is alot like Rooney when he was that age... Quite similar to Pele as well when he was that age...
Or are we just building up another kid like we have done before so effectively before turning on them if they dont live up to it? David Connolly hat Trick Lansdowne ring any bells...
C'mon, we're allowed to get excited by his great start to his career. I maintain that there's nothing conclusive but as fans it'd be odd if we didn't pay attention to his form.
And I don't think there's been much that's been in any way OTT by the way.
If anything stokes is better than both of them were at that age...Quote:
Originally Posted by AustinoAsprilla
Pele was part of a World Cup winning team at 17.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billsthoughts
Rooney was scoring a marginally less amount of goals at a higher level at the same age.
No comparison...
yeah pele won a world cup in the olden days. It was easy scoring then. just bundle over the goalie. defenders not really fit. Rooney didnt score many at stokes age did he? sure Rooney is washed up now anyways..
http://home.student.uu.se/hape2405/a...m_detector.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge
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He had about 10 by this part of the season at the same age as Stokes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billsthoughts
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Originally Posted by eirebhoy
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So stokes has more then? therefore stokes is better.Quote:
Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge
Stokes is 18 and 4 months old.Quote:
Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge
He has scored 13 goals in 13 starts for Falkirk
In 2003-2004 season when Rooney turned 18 in october of that season, Rooney scored 9 goals in 40 appearances. Impossible for Rooney to have scored more than Stokes.
And neither player would classify themselves as out and out goalscorers.
Therefore Stokes IS better.
Rooney was playing at a much higher level- The Premiership- had played less games, had just come back from injury. He also scored a CL hat trick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billsthoughts
Sorry getting seasons mixed up.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe denilson
Scottish people are renowned for being mean therefore its harder to score up there as they dont give anything away lightly. The culture of politeness in England means they think it bad manners not to let a young man like Rooney have a couple of goals to boost his confidance. therefore Stokes is better.
First of all I can't tell if you're an idiot, wum or sarcastic, but I'll answer that post anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billsthoughts
1. What has that got to do with football?
2. It obviously hasn't occured to you that players of a wide variety of nationalities play in both leagues.
With Falkirk having a latitude 56.32 and not being sheltered by the emerald isle and feeling the full force of the Southwesterly winds, surely climate is the determining factor in how good a footballer is.Quote:
Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge
Therefore Stokes is better, way better than Rooney and twice as good as Pele, at that age.
What's an idot? New Apple branded punctuation or something. I want one.
He can only score in the games he plays in.
which he does.
I would get the creative dotbox if I were you.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe_denilson
it has added grammar functionality which doesnt come as standard with the idot.
If he was so great, im sure he'd be playing for Arsenal... maybe he still will...
Can we please put an end to the whole "if he was any good, he'd be playing for the Arsenal first team now" argument!
How many of the top players in the world have been absolute stars from the get go? Sure there are always players like Giggs, Fabregas, Rooney, Barry, Fowler that take to football like a duck to water at a very young age. But this is not always the case.
How many stars of the modern game had to work there way up through the ranks? How many brilliant players had to leave big clubs to progress in their careers. I'm pretty sure Celtic and Blackburn rue the day they let Given slip through their fingers. Andy Cole, one of the leagues all time greats couldn't cut it at Arsenal. Saha was a flop at Newcastle.
Give Stokes a break.
I totally agree, i am alluding to the fact that comparing him to Rooney right now is ridiculous.
It was all sarcastic talk, nobody compared him to Rooney. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by The Legend
Ah happy days, at least we wont have to rely on Clinton "Look at me, im great" Morrison up front anymore nor "the Doc" being sent up there...
If there was an international tomorrow night, I'd have Morrison in the team before Stokes. But then again I'd have Keane, Doyle and Elliott in the team before Morrison ....Quote:
Originally Posted by The Legend
That's hard on Morrison. Suggests he doesn't work hard in an Irish shirt which is not true. He might not be a top player but I certainly wouldn't fault his application.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Legend
Clint has a lot of faults but lack of effort or application is not one of them, I've always thought he gives 100% for the shirt, he's no world beater but he's bigger and stronger and offers a different option to Keane, Doyle or ElliottQuote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
This shows my old git-ness. I really think we need to have either starting or on the bench a target man who is good in the air. I'm not sure any of these guys is that but maybe we just have to wait for Cavan's finest, Cillian Sheridan.Quote:
Originally Posted by endabob1
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Clinton is no longer first choice in the starting XI, but for me it's a weaker squad without him.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Legend
Daryl Murphy has been decent for Sunderland this season if we need another 'big man' option upfront. He's a better alternative than Lee or Doherty though I'd still stick Morrison in front of him who, no matter what anyone says, has always weighed in with a few goals for Ireland.Quote:
Originally Posted by cavan_fan
Clinton does work hard I'll admit but he stuggles big time. His lack of ability has just been way too apparent sometimes. Would unquestionably have Stokes ahead of him, maybe even Billy Clarke (Pace, skill, technical ability, finishing) If anybody has seen Stokes's goals this season they have all the hallmarks of a sublimely talented finisher, a natural goalscorer and someone with a predatory instinct and skill to match. And he's provided a lot of the goals all by himself. Its all about the natural talent. Anybody can have the workrate if they want. The whole "If he's that good then why isn't he playing for Arsenal" argument is joke. No teenager breaks through to one of the big four anymore and thats a fact. United have to buy Larsson instead of calling up Rossi, who Ferguson described as one of the best finishers he's ever seen. But you cant use teenagers anymore if you want to compete for the league. Wenger will also rue the day Stokes is banging them in in the Premiership.
United can't call Rossi back due to the terms of the loan agreement, Ferguson is reportedly fuming because of the amount of games he's getting for the Toon.Quote:
Originally Posted by republicofwhite
But I take your point, that instead of going for youth, they are buying a proven goalscorer.
Stokes voted Scottish Young Player of the Month for November, clean sweep for the Irish so far in Scotland - McGeady and Stokes
Taken from SkySports.comQuote:
Originally Posted by Skysports
A lot of the same stuff being rehashed but we'll see how the talks go this week.
similar stuff in today's Indo: http://www.unison.ie/sportsdesk/stor...=12&si=1736412
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Nothing can happen until January. But I'm happy here and staying until the end of the season wouldn't bother me.
Rossi's loan ends in January and I cant see it being extended by either side.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979