He will do a job for mid to lower table teams but not good enough if you want to challenge for silverware.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
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He will do a job for mid to lower table teams but not good enough if you want to challenge for silverware.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
People would have said similar about most of the Shels squad in fairnessQuote:
Originally Posted by D24Saint
Pats have kept hold of Romal Palmer on a permanent basis on a 2 year contract. Over the moon with that one
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Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
I dared to dream but didn’t really expect that to happen. What a brilliant bit of news.
That could be the signing of the off-season.Quote:
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Stunned with the Palmer signing, I wasn't even hoping for it such was how unlikely I felt it was to happen. He'd obviously taken to the club well and got a lot of love from everyone from staff to the fans, but I still expected it to be the case that he'd have much more appealing offers and take one of them up, especially if they were back in England as was being reported previously. Fitness allowing he's absolutely one of the best midfielders in the league going off of what he showed when up to speed last season, will be huge if he's able to have a proper run of games next year.
The squad is quite healthy already, by my count that's 20 players signed as it stands. Might be one or two under contract that leave anyway like Keeley and Bolger that will subsequently be replaced, but otherwise not much more need or room for many more incomings. I'd say ideal world there'd be another right back, midfielder, and winger/striker type in which would really round out the squad nicely in terms of numbers and depth.
Delighted with that news. His performances in Europe this season were sensational.
Wage bill must be enormous
Kenny is a brilliant LOI manager, without doubt in the top 5 of all time, one thing though that comes with him is a demand for a very large budget, possibly one exception would been his first 2 seasons at Dundalk, and definitely 2013 - first transfer fee paid was for Horgan if I remember, possibly 20k, almost all others in the first two seasons were free transfers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
I dont disagree but all managers will look for a much money as they can, its up to clubs to put the breaks on. In this case Kenny was taking in a lot more than what he was demanding in his budgets and when he left that declined and a combination of things then bucked us. Would success would have declined at some point as always happens eventually but there is little doubt that Dundalk would have chalked up more titles and would have been in Europe with a growing coeff and pot of prizemoney. Whether that would have future proofed the club with development off the pitch well who knows. At that time the best thing that happened to other clubs and keep LoI competative was John Delaney's messing - the biggest conspiracy in Irish football history!
It's Kellihers dream to win the league ( I presume!) and he obviously sees this current version of pats as the best chance he has of doing that,albeit between the players he has now and the very,very expensive manager (5yr contract?) it will require a league win within 2yrs(?) and "hopeful" deep progression into Europe to justify the vast expense .
They will definitely start the league as favourites next season so the chances of Champions league prelim football and presumably group stage football (with loadsamoney!!) in 2026 is worth the risk id wager.
Pats have already won the league in Kelleher's time. If you’re referring to winning it again, then isn’t that the 'dream' of every top 4/5/6/all(?) club's owners?Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
I hadn't realised Kelliher was there at pats that long. Point remains the same,he's spending more than derry and Rovers to see pats win the league sooner rather than later the player & mgmt signings show that.
He’s been at Pats since 2008, so has definitely proved he’s in it for the long haul. Apart from Power I think all of the signings announced have been retaining this years squad, so I’m not sure the budget will have gone up by much. I’m sure we are spending well, but I don’t know how you can confidently state we are spending more than Rovers and Derry. Let’s see who they bring in. After all, Rovers now have the gazillions from their European run.Quote:
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it’s going to be competitive at any rate. Can’t wait.
That’s 2 for 2 on incorrect presumptions so :) any more for the hattrick?Quote:
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Not with Paddy PowerQuote:
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Rovers 7/4
Pats 2/1
Shels 4/1
Derry 6/1
28/1 - 33/1 all of the rest.
That said I think Pats will have a great chance of first league title in 12 years.
They're offering more to O'Reilly than derry are and offering more to Hoare and Farrugia than they are being offered at Rovers.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
As Rovers season is still continuing they haven't started splashing the cash just yet so they may well outspend Pats.
In the spirit of good faith we can drive Towell over to Richmond if that's helpful to your cause- Mi casa su casa :)
I think rovers reaching the KO stage of Europe will wreck their season.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
According to Dan McDonnell, O'Reilly isn't the #1 target in that position for Pats and he may well end up staying at Derry because he doesn't end up having a "better" option. Doesn't seem like we're pushing the boat out for him anyway.Quote:
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Is it time to quote 4th highest budget foot.ie rule yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
And there’s the hattrick! Match ball in the post ;) As Jack says, Dan McDonnell and a few other journalists in the league have said that Pats are no longer after O'Reilly and he looks set to stay in Derry. Baggley was the midfielder they were after but after Palmer re signing I’m not sure if they’re still after Baggley or not. There was talk that if Baggley came in Aaron Bolger who is under contract would be let leave which I wouldn’t be opposed to to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
On allegedly offering more money to Farrugia, that does not equal to having a bigger budget than Rovers who have the biggest one in the league by a considerable margin according to every journalist and pundit in the country. There are players at Pats that would be on a lot smaller wages than the key players which Farrugia would be one of if he were to sign. Which he won’t in my opinion, he’ll probably see what English interest he has in January and if he doesn’t fancy any of those then he’ll use Pats interest to get a bumper new contract at rovers like Jack Byrne did last year
Derry at 6/1 is interesting. New manager who doesn't know the league (this may be an net positive though, time will tell), large squad turnover, no major re-signings announced (namely Maher and O'Reilly), no major signings that I can recall. I wouldn't have them miles ahead of Galway but the odds tell a different tale.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
On pats I would have them as favourites. Finished as the form team ( I believe Shels finished as the form team in 2023). They had a good enough squad that was underperforming before Kenny arrived and I think his summer business pushed them further into the good/very good squad. They know what types of players they want to sign and are going after them early. All positive signs. Rovers are a bit behind the 8 ball until the end of their euro adventures, I think Dan McDonnell was saying the club have an option to extend the players contracts for European campaigns by up to 6 weeks so that may make their lives a little easier as other clubs may not want to wait to sign players from Rovers. Obviously time will tell but I can't see why you would have rovers as favourites starting the season.
In fairness, I’d say we’re third highest :DQuote:
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Ed McGinty in talks with Shamrock Rovers
As is Mr. Bohs tattoo himself Danny Grant. I’m sure the return to Dalymount later in the year will be an interesting one if that move happensQuote:
Originally Posted by joey B
bring back the chucking of the pigs head!
I heard that rumour meself and thought someone was taking the pi$$. Last few times I saw him play he looked a windy part time player.
The McGinty one has been doing the rounds in recent weeks,he was lauded on here as the best in the league,but on current form Pohls is at least his equal in my view. There's a touch of the Barry Murphy's about McGinty,he looks smaller than he is for some reason.
Neither rumour is getting me out of my seat anyway
Jad Hakiki signed for Sligo Rovers
Pohls has done well in Europe but definitely cost rovers points in the league this year, while McGinty won Sligo a lot of points you’d have to say. If rovers had McGinty in 2024 that alone would’ve seen another title win given how close it was in the end. Hakiki could turn out to be a good signing for Sligo, on a 2 year deal as well
Why would they sign a dance performed by the New Zealand rugby teamQuote:
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Whos he Joey B?Quote:
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What came out during our 100 year anniversary celebrations was when SK was in charge of us he was close to walking out of us at the time we had a two grand weekly budget only that one of the board members found 2k in cash under his mattress and SK stayed in the end!Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
Barry Baggley in from Waterford , the Kenny revolution continues
Baggley’s a done deal now, can only assume that’s the end of Bolger if he finds an offer elsewhere that suits himQuote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
Palmer signing was similar to Grivosti and Sjoberg in that it was securing the core of last season's squad, but I think a Baggley, O'Reilly etc type was always going to happen anyway as there was a bit of a need for another player in that area of the pitch. Palmer tended to play as a 10 anyway whereas Baggley will likely more so be competition for Lennon and/or Forrester, which was necessary given there was a real reliance on those pair and obviously Bolger isn't fancied too much.
Happy with Baggley all the same, although more so the idea of him than it being based in any real knowledge as I can't profess to have seen a huge amount of him. He seems more suited to our style of play than O'Reilly though which would make sense of the reports that Kenny had Baggley as his main target of the pair.
James Talbot re-signs for Bohs. Squad looking OK so far but still need a few more quality players to compete. This will be Reynolds squad so he can't make excuses if it goes wrong. Anyone know of potential signings??
Happy but surprised to see Talbot signed back. I guess he thinks he can get his place back but Kacper is the more assured option between the two so it'll probably be another season as the number 2.
The one player that most Dundalk fans would have hoped to keep after his summer signing from Shels however unlikely this was. Only one of the many (permanent) signings last year that really looked up to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
Rovers and Pat's are likely to get more points next season IMHO. Not sure what to expect from Shels in Europe. Group stage football the obvious expectation on any champions when the likes of Larne and TNS are also qualifying.Quote:
Rovers 7/4
Pats 2/1
Shels 4/1
Derry 6/1
28/1 - 33/1 all of the rest.
The best two European performers have to start the furthest from group football. It'll be interesting to see what squads they assemble and how far they can go in Europe next year. Unless they get a stinker of a draw, they'll have confidence of negotiating each round.
First draw is massive for the champions. A lot of bogey draws but if can get through one round it really opens up. Presume Shels aren’t seeded? Could be tough if so