Here's an article that sorts Premiership sides by minutes played by U21 players: https://www.football365.com/news/ran...oden-greenwood
It's nice to see a few names for us there: O'Shea, Connelly, Smallbone, and Obafemi all feature.
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Here's an article that sorts Premiership sides by minutes played by U21 players: https://www.football365.com/news/ran...oden-greenwood
It's nice to see a few names for us there: O'Shea, Connelly, Smallbone, and Obafemi all feature.
A non story.
A few friendly games completed, a new playing style instigated, and a few youngsters bled in. O’Shea, Knight, Molumby the most promising. A lot of work for Idah to do. Manning was poor, clearly short on match practice. Frustrating to watch yes, but it’s a long road ahead.
Next step is for our players to produce the goods between now and March. I’m actually looking forward to the weekend again. Troy should be finally making his debut vs Cardiff. It will be exciting to watch who can continue to establish themselves over the next 4 months
Examiner saying that the video is fine but that the speech after it was what made people uncomfortable.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/...-40086626.html
So the goalposts seem to be moving. The great irony of course is the Daily Mail as the paper to go to. The paper who constantly posted anti Irish drivel during the Brexit discussions and referred to “Lenny Verruca, the pipsqueek prime minister”.
Racist rag who supported the Nazis in the late 30s.
Makes me wonder if the speech even referred to Brexit and the disregard for the GFA. That’s what I’d have used myself!
That is interesting. So can probably assume video is harmless, and its likely to come out at some point. Second thing, whoever has made the initial complaint is still complaining, and leaking. One of the oldest rules in football management, you have entirely your own people around you. Shows what can happen when you don't.
If kenny said anything pro IRA. He should be sacked today. I hope not I really do. But he he said " up the ra"or the like its something that cant be excused
I'd agree with that, but if that's what he is supposed to have said it'd be hard to see why the FAI seemed to think his explanation was satisfactory.
Is it not a case that he has only meet Owen's? And the board is yet to meet ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Yes, you're right. But the article says this (based on what, who knows?):
"There is no question of Kenny’s being subject to stern disciplinary action, up to and including dismissal..." which would seem to rule out anything RA related, though with the FAI you'd rule nothing out.
My fear is just coming from a rumour that one of the players that was v upset was Randolph( I've zero proof) but 2 people have said it to me( also providing me with zero proof) let's just say it wouldn't stand up in court. Randolph doesn't come across as someone who would get up set easily
There is zero evidence he said anything of the sort, you're just speculating wildly based on nothing. Its pointless to invent things like this. Why would you think he would be that stupid?Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
Belfast Telegraph ran a story yesterday that Randolph was set to retire, then withdrew the story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
There are two themes here: goalkeepers & hard right British media! (BT is seen as a loyalist leaning paper, yes?)
It is speculation but it's hard to see many other things that'd arouse such strong feelings or objections. But yes, good idea to stop speculating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Exgrad
It's a fear more then anything. It's just Darren is from bray and tobe upset to the point of retiring I think what was said was more then let's get these *******s. But your right its ridiculous speculationQuote:
Originally Posted by Exgrad
I’m wondering if the goalkeeper coach and the senior goalkeeper are the ones upset, if this might not be more about Kenny’s efforts to play out from the back?
Alan Kelly was an old school keeper, something tells me he’s not a fan of the modern sweeper keeper and wouldn’t be particularly adept at training keepers in that style (pure speculation obviously), Randolph obviously isn’t comfortable playing that style either, he’s probably well aware his future in a team playing that way is in doubt too.
It would be sad if that’s what’s happening but things are starting to point in that direction.
That would be seriously concerning if it were the case. What Kenny's trying to do with the keepers is nothing new at all (even UCD are giving it a go)
If there's a bit of a revolt over switching to a more modern style of play, and if it succeeds, then we're kind of doomed to keep playing the same old crap.
I met alan kelly in 2002 wc. I found him to be nice but very stupid
The Security Implications of Randolph and Duffy playing out from the back are serious = = its accidents waiting to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by passinginterest
Was Alan Kelly brought up in Blighty ? ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
Getting messy now:
https://extra.ie/2020/11/21/sport/so...-stephen-kenny
Yeah, it does sound like a bit of unrest if these stories are getting out.
But like, how much of a story - really - is this:
It still sounds like mountain out of molehill stuff, but the fact it's getting into the press is the concern. This sort of stuff should be dealt with internally.Quote:
Extra.ie understands there was a second incident ahead of the England friendly which startled players. At a meeting in the team hotel, Kenny is understood to have raised his voice and started shouting in front of astonished players.
The FAI cant throw the manager out because some of the players dont like the way they are playing or because he "shouted" at them FFS.
Or at least not before letting him play a half dozen games with a full panel.
It’s bizarre that raising his voice and shouting could even be vaguely seen as a problem. I said I though he persisted with Duffy and Randolph out of fear of losing the senior players. It seems the dropping of Coleman and cutting adrift of Long might have already upset the apple cart.
The upside might be it gives him carte Blanche to completely overhaul things and just leave out those who don’t have his back. The squad come March might be very telling.
on face value yes, but these "losing the players" slow drips to the press almost always only go in one direction. But you can only make an assessment based on facts and we don't know many of those yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Yeah, that's exactly my thinking alright, especially as Kenny doesn't have much in the way of results to keep the sharks at bay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
It's a narrative-driven dog-pile. Next will be the Sunday op-eds about "losing the dressing room" and painting Kenny's reign as a sunk cost already. I suspect some "anonymous sources" will start making additional trouble then.
We've seen this all before in plenty of nations and clubs.
I think he may have lost the dressing room. Coleman out, Shane Long strange things happened
Is it in South-Park that they are always Killing Kenny ?
Yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
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Our Kenny does not deserve it yet anyway !Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
James McClean has come out calling it gutter journalism. He posted an image of an article which said that himself, Robbie Brady, shane duffy and Darren Randolph were uneasy.
The article said there was a big deal made of Seamus Coleman doing a press conference before the first game in September. That an irish player “of that stature” had never been asked to do a press conference knowing they weren’t going to be starting. “The humiliation suffered by Coleman went down like a lead balloon”.
It’s such bull****. He’s the captain. It’s the first game in charge. It makes total sense that he’d do the press conference before the start of the campaign. I genuinely remember Cyrus Christie doing a press conference before a game and not playing at all.
Can’t imagine anyone took issue with it... it’s just an orchestrated campaign by someone to undermine Stephen. After the indo piece, then there was the Belfast telegraph deleted article about Randolph (Belfast telegraph is also owned by the indo). Sick stuff...
Enda Stevens also rallying around Kenny, saying he's disappointed the story got leaked in the first place. That's encouraging to see.
Stevens comments come from this story on the Irish Times: https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soc...14871?mode=amp
But Seamus Coleman is the player everybody is waiting for to speak up
he is the squad skipper
Does anyone know what FAI officials would have been present?Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
Alan Kell is not the mole, kudos and plaudits to his reputation,
top goalkeeper, should have played more in premier league. Loyal servant
Imagine that ,a manager shouting at his players .....and .....some of the babies cant take it ,so we will inform a journo and show that brute whose boss.
Am I reading too much into things that he didn't say "There was nothing wrong with the video"?