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Nonsense!Quote:
Originally Posted by Calcio Jack
Correct - the banner was commission by the kit manufacturers and displayed at their kit launch, which was obviously attended by players and management.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calcio Jack
It's well documented, as is the cringe factor felt by many surrounding the misguided message on the banner
AT least you are pretending to get it now - but then you knew that all along!Quote:
Originally Posted by Calcio Jack
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Originally Posted by White Horse
I get it alright but I'm not going to engage in a tit for tat argument as I suspect we'll just go around in circles dancing on the head of a pin, you hold your views and I'll hold mine but in the great scheme of things I doubt anyone else is interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
Its not about opinions, it about facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calcio Jack
You said the banner was an official club banner. It wasn't and I think you knew that all along.
You're right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calcio Jack
Just in the door from the homecoming tonight. I missed last nights revelry unfortunately. Felt really good seeing the cup in person again after 9 years.
I could type an essay here talking about the emotional rollercoaster I've been on for the last few days but I won't bore you.
For the first time yesterday I didn't think we could win. I've seen too many heartbreaking defeats and I thought our time would never come. Even after the goal I was sure they were gonna snatch it somehow just to make it worse.
It was a scrappy game with no clear better team but we came out on top and I'm delighted. I'm actually even happier that the goal was a terrible goal. It was the perfect goal to settle that game.After the past few years this win means so much. I hope its not the last one and I'm confident it won't be.
Some Dundalk fans have been saying sure its only the cup, we're still the better team, and we don't care anyway. Maybe it is only the cup, but if you feel like it doesn't matter I pity you. I pity you the way I pity Man United and Barcelona fans. Fans who have seen so many victories that they are numb to them. They expect them, and its the losses that provoke real emotion.
I'm not suggesting all Dundalk fans are this way, and the photos of the goal show the players certainly wanted to win it but there is a portion who are being very blasé about the cup. You have been brilliant ove rthe past three years, but this is the LOI and nothing lasts forever. You have to savour the moments you get. I've been following City for over half my life and I've seen us win one league, two cups, one LC and one Setanta and I've loved every one. I've see teams from Louth lift.... 8 trophies?
The winter is going to be interesting. Most clubs are ready to do their business now, they know who will be gone, who they need to replace, where they need to strengthen. Dundalk aren't finished yet, and don't know if they will make the next round of Europe yet. Do they replace X Y and Z? Or.... of course that has a knock on effect for other clubs who are waiting to see if Dundalk players want to move, or if their players are willing to stay or will they move to Dundalk.
I have a million more things to say but I have work tomorrow so I'll leave it there. A mess of semi coherent, semi connected ramblings. One last point. Sean Maguire may well have played his last game for us, and we'll have a job replacing him. But 29 goals. Holy hell thats an incredible season. I think we've only had a player better that once, Morley in 1992/93 and he had a couple in the MSC. Seans goals have won us this cup, got us to the Europa League third round and kept us hot on the tail of "The Greatest team in LOI History"' for 90% of the season.
Next year is gonna be fun.
" it's not about opinions, it's about facts"..... followed by inaccurate speculative opinion - Rico in his pomp would have been proud of that juxtaposition.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
Are you still maintaining that the banner was an official club one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Calcio Jack
All interesting points and not at all rambling.Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
It will be fascinating to see how both teams move forward. No one can afford to stand still. Keeping and recruiting the right players will be crucial.
Congratulations on the win, enjoy it. We've all seen more disappointment than success while following our teams.
A very wise woman once gave me the following advice " Calcio do you want to be 'right' or happy" I chose happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
Any Dundalk fans that are saying 'only the cup' have very short memories!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
The League Cup was savoured 2 years ago AND was a major win to set the ball rolling if you pardon the pun. To have the Malone Cup, Presidents Cup, LS Cup, FAI Cup and League Trophy all sitting on a table at functions was an impressive sight even if 2 trophies were for friendlies, and one was a reserve and youths cup, I am still annoyed that we we went out on penalties in the semi of the LC to Galway and not have a chance to complete the set.
No obsession here mate, just enjoying the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcgonigle
If you can't take a bit of friendly slagging then you might like to follow a different sport ;)
Dundalk are a fine side & we have many friends in Dundalk. Genuine League of Ireland folk who have been through thick & thin with the club.
So good luck you in your endeavors till we meet again & try not to take life so seriously :D
What other way could it be when following the LOI :DQuote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
so true but it makes the odd win more sweet
I understand that the Preston Chairman was at the game looking at Horgan and Maguire.
Regardless of who said what, I still think it was a ridiculous thing for the kit sponsor to sanction having the mention of 'talla'. Rovers were not even a rival to the league last season. A simpler solution would have been 'two in a row and we did it in style'Quote:
Originally Posted by Calcio Jack
Just a point from yesterday, one of the Cork lads on here suggesting some Dundalk fans saying 'it was only the FAI Cup' etc. Well I can tell you one thing, I was very disappointed we didn't win, and why wouldn't I, its the second biggest trophy on offer.
The best team will always win the league, but the cup is still a very decent achievement. Cork fans should rightly enjoy the celebrations.
The Presidents Cup should be fun in Feb!
Would it be correct to presume it will be in oriel this year? Since it was down here last timeQuote:
Originally Posted by oriel
Don't presume anything. It's the FAI we're talking about and there's been no real precedent so farQuote:
Originally Posted by patrickccfc
I'd guess it'll be Oriel too but they make it up as they go along
Anyone know how much Cork City get for winning the Cup and Dundalk for coming second?
Probably €0 each after the FAI take their cut as fines from the flares.
Afaik, it's 25k for the winner
Spot on.Haven't seen it mentioned anywhere else here but Shams got hit with a HUGE fine for fans displaying flares @ a home match in Tallaght v Dundalk Same images will be used by the FAI & SSE etc.to promote the game here!!Quote:
Originally Posted by GCdfc
Yes that is true afaik it was €6000 because of the flares against Dundalk bringing fines for the season to over 10kQuote:
Originally Posted by ToberonaTornado
That's a mad amount of money for a loi club
I think the prize fund is €50k for winning the FAI Cup. This was a new arrangement afaik when the finals switched to the Aviva. Previously it was the clubs who got involved directly, and some made a loss on the final. The fai take direct control now so regardless of the attendance the winners get €50k, not sure what the runners up get, prob €20k?Quote:
Originally Posted by CityBoy
For the league, I think Dundalk pick up €115k, an increase from the 100k on offer for previous seasons. For the runners up, I'm not sure, might be 50-60k, but the real money is entrance to the CL and the route following that if you get get past a few rounds.
It's mental to think Dundalk's draw away to AZ was worth more in a bonus payment (140k) that winning the league over 33 games, or almost 3 times the money for winning the cup.
I don't think it's anywhere near 50k for the winners. Stand to be corrected, but there's €121,000 prize money between FAI Cup, League Cup and Fair Play league. I can't see how 50k of that would go to the FAI Cup winners alone.
League winners get €110k. Draw in the EL Group stage is worth €120k, win €360k, unless they have made changes in recent weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
it is exactly 50k for winning the FAI CupQuote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
50k for the Cup winners, ~25k for runners-up leaves about 50k for EA Sports Cup + fair play together. Sounds about right.
Yep, I stand corrected, 110k for the league, 120k not 140k for a draw in EL group. 360k also correct per win.Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
Its def 50k though for the FAI Cup.