Do they even qualify for Jersey?
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Do they even qualify for Jersey?
No one can leave until July in any case. Unless they agree to simply walk away from their contracts and are happy not to play football until then.
Waterford supporters need to shoulder some responsibility here. Time after time the board have messed up and been bailed out by the goodwill of their supporters. During the last debacle did they demand a place on the board or more involvement in the running of the affairs of the club.
I am not sure if they have a supporter club or a trust but they need to mobilise ASAP if they want to prevent this reoccurring.
Just as the premier clubs won't be the turkeys voting for christmas regarding relegation places, the FAI/ Delaney aren't going to be the turkeys that píss off their power base by taking on the Junior and Intermediate clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Summer Football, fecking things up since 2003.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Given the history of the league (clubs and players), a tax haven is the logical choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longfordian
Gibraltar would be a better prospectQuote:
Originally Posted by sulywaterfordfc
Interesting that the English FA are following Shamrock R, just shows that they are the most progressive club by far in Ireland. However in Germany there is a move towards doing away with B teams as apart from the big clubs, most find it too expensive for the returns (unclear often) from the exercise. Many there believe that a loan system works better in developing young/fringe players as the B teams there play at 3rd tier level; which is too low a standard. How many B teams do people think could play in the First Division before it becomes irrelevant and how many Premier Div clubs can afford to field a B team, cost reported at 80k per season?
Agree that 2 promotion places from the 1st division would help, but it needs at least 2 and if possible 4 extra "real clubs" to join it to make it a proper league. If as it looks like it, you can't get new clubs I think the best solution is to have a one division league, with a halfway top/bottom split and with the bottom club having to apply for re-election at the end of the season.
To increase the number of English players in the top flight we're going to launch a B team & apply to join the Premier League
* Over a third.Quote:
Originally Posted by wonder88
* 1.
City and Pats have registered interest in entering B teams next year.
The Sun is reporting tomorrow that Shamrock Rovers are considering pulling the plug on the "B" team already: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bxr6lX6CEAA04h9.jpg
I saw that and I'd be very disappointed if it was the case. I know 100k is a lot of money in LOI terms, but Nutsy has been very complimentary in what the B team has brought to the first team squad, and I'd hate to see us go back to the old model.
Nutsy doesn't appear to think that having the B players playing and training part time is of much benefit to him given the first team squad are full time. I'm not sure what alternative he has in mind except adding the 100k onto his own budget.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Back to seven teams so. Wonderful.
heard a few weeks ago that B team players were told that Nutsy was 100% pulling the plug on it and they should start looking for new clubs.
Unless Cork or Pats follow up on their initial interest.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Well that was obvious
Surprised it's Nutsy's decision tbh. Should be at least the board, if not the members. Not much of a model club, if a potentially short term appointment is making the call on what was so supposed to be long term player development policy. However, on our visits, they never got much support in so maybe it's more than the player wages affecting the financial decision to pull them.
If Bray are struggling as much as some think they are, we could be back to scrambling for any teams again
Long term contracts eh. Good to see Fenlon is looking to implement the long term strategy that was so successful at Shels and Bohs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Eh? Maybe its just because of the foot.ie exclusion zone, but hadn't heard anything about Bray being in enough trouble to be worried.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Edit: Never mind, saw the newspaper ad.
Wasnt there a committment to 3 years participation factored in to the Shams B project?
If there was, it mustn't have been a legal commitment.
Not sure how informed Nutsy is but he doesn't seem to think so. It would be a disaster for the FAI if nobody else was able to fill the gap. Clubs in the FD will look at the prospect of a 7-team league and wonder whether senior football is worth it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
can we ask what the ad is?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
If ever there was a motivation to get out of this grave yard of a division it is now
http://www.newstalk.com/reader/47.302.347/31344/0/
Not sure how much to read into it.
Anyone hear Stewie Byrne on Newstalk last night talking about it?For some reason his only response to Bray being in trouble was to say that he was at a game during the summer and there was a group of fans shouting and cursing throughout which really put him off. He said that kind of thing is part of the experience at Bohs and Rovers but not at Bray....think it could have been away fans he was talking about as well....complete and utter drivel coming out of his mouth...
Doesn't help that our match down there will now be moved to midweek because of the cup semi-final.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
Was half-thinking of heading down there to the Pats match on Friday. It's no Crackbird, but they're offering €20 for a match ticket and an Eddie Rockets meal.
http://genophoria.files.wordpress.co...e-my-money.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
It really is a brilliant deal. Hope it works out for them
https://www.facebook.com/BrayWandere...levant_count=1
Perhaps a solution but would take too much thought and effort for FAI/League. Also 3 Donegal teams wouldn't work
http://www.punditarena.com/football/...irst-division/
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Originally Posted by Neish
Too many Cork teams. We're going to end up with seven teams again.
Meh. Young and enthusiastic fan puts club names on a piece of paper and doesn't have to do any of the work involved. Seen it before (probably wrote it myself back when I was a whippersnapper), will see it again. It's not that easy in reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neish
I do think the First Division would work better regionalised, but I have no idea how you'd get the interest from enough top junior sides to make the step up.
Is there any Junior side that would be both competitive on the field and financially stable upon entering the LOI? I mean, which Junior clubs get the highest attendances?
I just don't see any options there right now, viable ones anyway.
There is talk that there have been a couple of combined-county expressions of interest (not applications) to the FAI for next year, as well as two B teams (probably Pats and Cork). Speculation the county teams are Kerry and Meath.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
If there are, the last thing they'd want to do is enter the League of Ireland, because they soon wouldn't be.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
Do it ! For the sake of :ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
I'm hearing a lot of conflicting stories about what's going on so i don't know what to believe... Best one yet is that the great Pat Devlin is planning a take over of the club!
I've heard Kerry rumours before. I would presume there are still a few people involved with Tralee Dynamos who think they could get make an application at the heart of that. But both them and Meath would struggle to last long I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
If Rovers can't stomach the expenses, will Cork and Pats?