Looks like Adrian wasn't the solution to WHAM's problems.
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Looks like Adrian wasn't the solution to WHAM's problems.
West Ham's half arsed effort was much more a factor than Adrian, who actually had a very good game I thought and blameless for any of the goals. He made a lot of decent saves to keep them in it at 0-0 and 0-1. He had kept three clean sheets in a row prior to that too to be fair.
Interesting comments from Packie Bonner regarding Randolph - http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/s...-1-450241.html
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Originally Posted by Packie Bonner on Randolph's situation at West Ham
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Originally Posted by Packie Bonner on Randolph being thrown in at the deep end against Germany
He does a good long ball and that suits Long........
O'Neill discusses the goalkeeping situation - http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/s...ne-451805.html
I have a feeling he'll go for Westwood.
What makes you think that ? Would be very surprised if he does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
There has been more focus on the choice between the two keepers in the media this week than there has been in the earlier part of the campaign and O'Neill has been a bit more positive in public about KW than he has been too. I'm wondering if MON is beginning to doubt Randolph especially after the Uruguay blunder. He'll have noticed a tendency to get caught in no mans land. It's just a hunch based on crumbs of evidence.
I agree with all of this although I don't have any major feeling as to what O'Neill will decide. I'm not going to be a bit surprised either way but I think one thing is for certain, this is Westwood's best chance of being selected since Randolph broke into the side. I feel O'Neill is genuinely disappointed that Randolph didn't take his chance to remain as West Ham's number one. He'll also realise that he wasn't just dropped for the fun of it. The error the last day might just have tipped the balance alright.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Instead of going from strength to strength, I think Randolph gets found out the more he plays. It's logical that the more you play the more mistakes you can make, but it also allows you the opportunity to build up enough good will that the occasional blunder will be overlooked. Westwood has done that at Sheffield Wednesday, I think he could have a string of dodgy performances at club level now and still have their supporters on side, given his overall consistency (and brilliance) over three years. Randolph's errors are a bit too frequent I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
You're shifting quotes from thread to thread, Del.
That quote from me is taken out of context, from another thread where I was replying to Lionel.
Players moving up a level and given a decent opportunity to prove themselves there, either stay within the boundaries of their ability, improve or disimprove.
By today's standards, relating to tolerance levels of error prone goalies, Randolph was handed a rare opportunity by West Ham.
I don't see it that his skill levels were exposed, he simply got worse by allowing more errors into his game. Afaics, he still has top goalkeeping skill levels and a lovely strike of the ball.
Fair enough, and I wouldn't entirely disagree. By being 'found out', I meant the quantity of errors have accumulated a bit too rapidly for my liking, he's still capable of doing some very good things and performing well though, that goes without saying I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
I would add that it's a bit disappointing that a high percentage of his mistakes are actually coming from not dealing with crosses, an area where he really excels at times and looked excellent early on.
I agree with this. He has real talent and is a super ball striker. I remember all those years ago when his underage manager McCaffrey said he had everything. Full of expectation I then saw him fumble a straightforward ball against England U21s and he generally didn’t impress.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
The issue isn’t his talent, it’s more his concentration and/or judgment. Any time I’ve been disappointed in him it’s been for highly avoidable, basic stuff. He tends to do the hard things well.
I really like how he brought authority to the position from the moment he took to the pitch against Germany but I have to go with my instinct and think I’d be more comfortable with Westwood. Marginal.
I just posted a link to a Dan McD article favouring Westwood for this match. I thought it was more relevant in the match build-up thread.
O'Neill on his decision to stick with Randolph for the Austria game: http://www.the42.ie/randolph-westwoo...38916-Jun2017/
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Originally Posted by Martin O'Neill
Some save against Austria and O'Neill seems to have a lot of faith in him.
Joe Hart set for a medical at West Ham. I don't see any Premier League sides coming in for him so is it the last we'll see of Randz in the EPL?
Yes. Middlesbrough maybe, if they can't get Westwood.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe_denilson
he was linked with newcastle but i don't see it happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by mark12345
Deal agreed to sign for the Boro:
http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/40690832
Fee mooted to be £4.5m.
Decent move for him and for Ireland. Can't complain too much.
Sounds like a very good move. Middlesbrough have been defensively sound for a number of years also so he shouldn't be too busy there. I've been just looking at their goalkeeping situation at the moment.
Valdes and Guzan have left the club.
Konstantopoulos is a 38 year old journey man with one cap for Greece. You'd imagine he wouldn't be much of a threat. He has recently signed a contract extension.
Then there's a former Real Madrid goalkeeper who, at 28, has only played twelve senior matches!
Randolph's biggest threat appears to be Connor Ripley, the son of former Blackburn Rovers title winner, Stuart. The 24 year old spent the last few years out on loan but seemed to excel for Oldham last season, keeping eighteen clean sheets and making the League One team of the season.
On a side note, if Patrick Bamford recaptures his previous Championship form when he won player of the season, it might be useful to have Randy and Cyrus knocking around at Boro. Christie, in particular, will be able to relate to Bamford's situation.
If they hold onto Gibson it will make Randolph's life a lot easier too.
There's only room for one Gibson in the championship!
Yep great move for himself and ireland
Randolph and Middlesbrough on the end of a 1-0 defeat to Wolves. Terrible start to the season for one of the promotion hopefuls - I mean, they're only out of the drop zone on alphabetical order: http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/championship/table
It's at times like this when you realise AFC Bournemouth have a wise naming strategy.
Two wins and two clean sheets for Randy & Cyrus as Middlesbrough get their season back on track after their opening day defeat. Seems like an inspired move for both.
Definitely. Was fantastic to see how Randolph didn't hang around and the moment Hart was in the frame he seemed to get the first ship out of there. It would have been easy to go with nonsense talk like I'm here and will fight for my place and just end up with no football. It was a decisive move and if Adrian had got away first he would likely have been stuck thereQuote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
Boro look quality and Monk is a quality manager. It's early door but if they can keep Ben Gibson and keep Assombalonga firing then they have a great chance. A sideways move for Cyrus may ultimately be an upward move.
Seems like it could be the best of both worlds for Christie, both in terms of game time and promotion prospects. Derby's probably a better place to live though!Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
Just a little update on the post at the top of this page. Connor Ripley signed a new three-year deal at Middlesbrough last week before joining Burton on a season-long loan. That eases the pressure on Randolph significantly it would seem and emphasises Middlesbrough's faith in him - http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...albion-on-loan
I’d guess there are some very nice places to live within 10 miles of Middlesbrough. Same as Sheffield and other northern cities.
This is good for Randolph. I’d prefer a keeper being undisputed no.1 and conceding few goals in a winning team for a top club in the Championship rather than a struggling team in the EPL, losing more often than winning and facing criticism, being low on confidence or fighting to keep his place.
Reminded me of this...Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO8yHVYof44
I wouldn't disagree that he was almost faultless over the two games, although Didi Hamman felt he should have been shaper for the Georgian goal, nit picking perhaps. He didn't have a lot to do though, it was well documented how Georgia didn't get as many chances as their dominance deserved and he made one decent save against Serbia.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
However, he was absolutely atrocious in his stint as West Ham's number one. People can ignore it all they like but he was probably directly responsible for more goal concessions than any other PL player during his time as first choice goalkeeper. I don't think I'm exaggerating. Anybody that thinks his quality of performance has been better than Westwood's over a significant period either hasn't been paying attention or probably blinded by the fact that he's done okay for us for the most part (his major errors either went unpunished or they happened in friendlies that were easily forgiven). He's a very average goalkeeper.
The only time Randolph concerned me over the two games was an errant ball out in the opening ten minutes against Serbia, but Elliot's distribution is hardly better; he's been torn asunder by Newcastle fans for that.
As long as he is performing for us, his club form is a moot point for me.
Walters is first name on the team sheet despite his declining fortunes domestically.
I'm sure there are other examples, McCarthy when he was injured every other week last season.
Five clean sheets in seven for Randz.
I saw a clip on Sky Sports last night where he flapped at a ball across his 6 yard box that really should have cost a goal. It was a square ball, waist high and he dived out, failed to catch it and it dropped straight to an attacker's feet who whacked it against the bar, possibly with Randz redeeming himself with a touch. It was really poor goalkeeping / decision making. Just saying.
I saw that as well but unfortunately I also saw Westwood's blooper against Brentford enabling them to score their first away goal of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
In the EFL team of the week: https://www.efl.com/news/2017/novemb...ent=2017-11-06
Goalkeeper: Darren Randolph (Middlesbrough)
Marcus Tavernier’s sixth-minute strike proved enough for Middlesbrough to take all three points against Sunderland in the Tees-Wear derby at the Riverside Stadium.
Just moments beforehand, Randolph made a fine double save to keep out the visitors, and looked assured throughout, thwarting the Black Cats in their search for an equaliser.
Yikes. Anyone see his sliced clearance for Vydra's third goal?
Yes, but game was lost at that stage. Luckily he hasn't done anything as blatant as that for us yet, although, despite Whelan or Beglin, cant remember which, giving him MotM in Copenhagen, I wasn't convinced by the two saves where he pushed the ball out to on-coming Danish players.