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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
He wasn't talking about what they were doing though he just said that Hamilton are not a powerhouse and im just making the point that it makes no difference.
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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
He wasn't talking about what they were doing though he just said that Hamilton are not a powerhouse and im just making the point that it makes no difference.
Yeah but for a manager, you can show your talent at a small club so it doesn't matter if they're not a powerhouse. When you haven't even been a manager though, questions have to be asked about why, and why you're at such a lowly club with no managerial record to speak of. It does make a difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy
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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Baraclough got sacked at Scunthorpe so didn't exactly show too much talent. All im saying is yes bringing in this fella is a risk but bringing in those too were risks too maybe not as big a risk but a risk all the same. There are reasons in the background why he has been picked too from what i hear.
What are the reasons though? Fair play if they've unearthed a hitherto untapped talent, but it all seems a bit odd since the club did absolutely nothing to quash rumours of big-money appointments like Brown and Taylor. I know Pat O'Sullivan is good at playing the media game but I think he might have a bit of trouble being taken seriously if this turns out to be what it was all leading up to.
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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Why? He or the club never said Phil Brown or anything like that they have never said anything through the whole thing its not up to them what papers write.
Any more on that bit ? Player contacts ? Bringing a sponsorship package with him? Anything?Quote:
Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy
You don't think any of the rumours emanated from the Limerick camp? Journalists aren't novelists - they get their information from trusted sources.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy
They might have but i also no that at least 3 of the people that were put in papers were never spoken to by the club and came from completely made up rumours on facebook and things like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Got my info right just the name wrong😉!!!! Will have to give my contacts a slap on the wrist!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by gael353
It's a risk but at least it's done now. I can only presume the club were advised to talk to this guy cause I don't see how the club could have known anything about him before. It will be interesting to see what the club say when it's announced. Certainly not the experienced manager they advertised for though. Once he knows how to work well with the coaches and players he has he should do fine.
There has been a lot of nonsense said about the application process ever since all and sundry declared Roddy Collins a possibility...because Roddy said he was.
If its this Taylor guy, fine, I'm more then willing to roll out the welcome mat and give him a shot. I certainly would have preferred someone with a bit more management experience, but it's still not the most alluring of job opportunities, millionaire backers or no. I wonder if it'll ever become clear how many people were actually seriously considered and why they were turned down.
Ex Limerick player John Sullivan that was with him at Hamilton rates him anyway if anyone cares
john sullivan @sullo11
If its true what Loi blog is saying about the next limerick manager!! watch out!! Great coach and brilliant man manager !!
If the rumours are true its a great appointment cant wait for kick off
Just wondering, why is it a great appointment? I have heard nothing about him so just interested to hear why it's a good appointment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Minesapint
The leftfield appointment I expected to be honest. Has a Pro license and coached Hamilton in the Scottish First but apart from that it's a bit meh. Could be a gem, could be a disaster. Let's get behind him but not been impressed at all with the process or of the club in general of late to be honest.
any appointment within reason is a good appointment at this stageQuote:
Originally Posted by kingpin4
Fair point to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by donnrua
I thought the reason why it has taken so long was that we were looking for a high profile manager. I have never heard of him and i would be fairly confident not many have either. Whether this is a good appointment time will tell. All i want now is the players to be sorted out as quickly as possible. Any news on signings?
Hasn't been any real movement on last years squad, Tracy and O'Leary are off to Norway next week. From what I heard, Purcell and O'Callaghan are close to signing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jalna
I presume, Taylor will bring in a few on loan if he has contacts in the UK.
that doesnt look great when you consider all we have signed is gamble, kelly and bradley from last years winning team. Ok we have mcgrath, mcgann and coughlan also but to be fair they could not hold down a starting place last year. So with that does that mean taylor will be bringing in anything up to ten players from england. It just makes it more important that gaffney, tracey and o leary are signed.
So has the club said anything officially or is this just another rumour?
I presume now that the manager is sorted though we will see plenty of movement in the next week or so with last seasons players. Players are probably annoyed they haven't been sorted sooner but there is nothing to say O'Leary and Tracey can't be sorted before they head off to Norway. Wasn't it already said O'Leary had an offer but was waiting to hear who the manager was before signing.
Gamble, Kelly and Bradley are a good place to start. If in the next week or so Purcell, Shane Tracey, David O'Leary and Gaffney are signed and confirmed we will have the back bone of a very strong team. Add a few more new faces and a couple more from last year like Corie and Brosnan and we are looking good.
I believe O'Leary's offer was poor, might be something to do with his age and that, make him a poor offer and show your intent to sign him kind of thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofspring
I heard a strong rumour from a mate of mine that Longford signed Corie. Was expecting it to be announced by now, but still nothing, so maybe not so true.
If Gaffneys deal is agreed and not signed yet, I'll personally bring it to Galway for him to sign it. :-)
And, I don't think anyone would begrudge Shane Tracy if he looked for mad money and got it, he should have been high priority to sign.
Dunno about that, i heard the manager won't be unveiled until next Thursday at a press conference, hopefully its not a big SECRET until then so ye can do some businessQuote:
Originally Posted by Jofspring
I'd take a guess and say they are hoping to announce signings/re-signings to go along with the announcement of the manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by blueblood
If the manager is announced this week it will have been eight weeks, one of which was Christmas week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jalna
Which is roughly the same amount of time it took the club to appoint Pat Scully.
Here's what Pat O'Sullivan said on November 15th:
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We will take our time to find the best candidate for Limerick and that’s what we’ll be doing.
We won’t be doing something hasty as we might find ourselves in the position whereby we don’t have the right guy. If we take our time, we’ll give ourselves the best chance of getting the right person to fill Pat’s shoes.
I assume that this is Corrie Tracey? What has happened to him? I heard nothing about him so far in Longford..Quote:
Originally Posted by kingpin4
Does something have to have happened him to sign for ye?Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
I hope this isnt true as last year i felt corie had a very good second half of the season. He and paddy were very solid when we needed them to be and also his versatility throughout the season was very important to us getting promoted. Hope he stays.
I agree with you, I actually thought he was our best centre half last year. If it's true that he is gone, it's a huge loss to us. I think he covered an awful lot for Purcell towards the end of last season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jalna
I am a bit suprised that ye are letting him go...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofspring
Ya would be surprised if we let him go alright. He may want to leave also. I agree with the lads above, he was one of our best performers the second half of the season and it was ridiculous when Scully dropped him out of nowhere for Klucair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
What I was told was that "he got sick of waiting. If the club offered him a contract then he'd have signed, but he had no contact from them, got annoyed waiting, so signed with Longford after interest from a couple of others"Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofspring
Same situation as the majority of the squad I suppose.
The majority of the squad are signing for Longford?! :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by kingpin4
Corie is a decent player. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if he left though and I'm not sure how anyone else thinking logically would be that surprised either.
Ah I'm not surprised, from what I heard, him and Bradley were pretty close to Scully. I worried bout losing both of them when Scully went.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
Rumours we're in for McMillan too, anyone else heard them? Really can't see him coming down though.
I'm sure he has plenty of offers on the table at the moment also so we will be up against plenty of clubs to get him if we are in for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingpin4
Take out any bias you have for Limerick, and ask yourself, would you sign? I know if I was Dublin based, and had offers from Sligo, Shamrock Rovers, Limerick and St.pats, Limerick would be my 4th choice. Even if they were offering me €200 more per week, I don't think I'd fancy travelling that distance 3 or 4 times a week. Then add in all the instability there seems looking in from the outside, he'd be mad to sign.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofspring
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Originally Posted by kingpin4
I'd say you're wrong. 200 quid a week extra is big money by League of Ireland standards. It was the difference in Sligo winning the title last season after all.
There would obviously be clubs a head of us in the pecking order, thats why down the years teams from outside of Dublin have always had to offer more to get certain players. It's just something the club will have to live with for the moment anyway. If somehow we were offering for example €200 more then it would be a very big reason for a lot of players to come to us instead, we may also offer better bonuses or a longer deal. Stability goes a long way too. If players hear from current Limerick players that the wages are always paid on time every week it stands to the club too that and the possibility of longer contracts. Bradley is a perfect example, good pay and a two year deal convinced him down here a head of other clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingpin4
Na, sure travelling to limerick 3 or 4 times a week, you'd easily spend that on petrol. You'd have a point if they got petrol money as well, but I know a lot of them don't. Then factor in travelling a 4 hour round trip 3 - 4 times a week and its less attractive.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
A lot of players might like the stability, over someone like Dundalk who went close to the wall last year, but lets be honest, if Pats, Rovers and Sligo (3 relatively stable) were in for you, you'd more than likely take that.
Plus, I think with the general atmosphere among the players, I think the players would be telling potential new recruits that they've had problems negotiating contracts, or that the club treated them in such a way and that. Doesn't paint the most positive picture for them.