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The hits just keep on comin!!! There's probably a hotel bed for every inhabitant of Limerick by now. I haven't a clue where these people making a real investment in tourism are expecting the head count to come from but they keep opening new hotels -three in the last two months.Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
So this:Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
Is your argument on wealth distribution??Quote:
Also, what you cannot discount is that whether or not 44k sounds inflated, we're still higher than any other country. It is this comparison, or rather, the comparison to where we were, that we have to make to decide whether or not we're better off as a people than we were.
Hilarious :D
Here's what you said son:Quote:
I said stereotype
Not only missing my point entirely but making yourself look a bit silly into the bargainQuote:
Limerick's plight is self inflicted since its people are slaves to a stereotype they havent shown any signs of eradicating.
Hilarious again. Limerick docks is unrecognisable from even ten years ago. Some areas haven't been developed yet but name me one docks in this country that's different??Quote:
all i need to do is look at the empty spaces accumulating rubbish along the dock road
You sir are either a spoofer or hilariously ill-informed :D
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Originally Posted by GavinZac
Free education is joke for a start Gavin. I take it you havem't had to fork out for school fees, books, lab fees, "supplementary" course work, and the dozens of other things that secondary and college students (or more likely their parents) have to pay for
Its a ****ing average, how can it be false? It does exactly what it says in the tin. Of course its pulled up by people making big money (and vice versa).Quote:
Originally Posted by jebus
Take it up with the Oxford English dictionary if you don't like the description of the word average: a quantity, rating, or the like that represents or approximates an arithmetic mean.
You are probably looking for the modal or median value?:confused:
Because you have college tuition fees (anywhere from E650 onwards), to rent, to college books (some of those cost E80 each), to living expenses to pay. Again your upper-middle classness rises :)Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
I'm sorry, but aside from organising festivals such as this weekend's Riverfest, having a low crime rate outside of the gang 'wars', inviting all and sundry to the city for Munster games, and then treating them very well, and just by not being scumbags, how are we supposed to reverse your stereotypes?Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
In fairness we both know he meant the Govy using that figure (instead of the median for example) is misleading. No need to be so pedantioc about itQuote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
Yeah...I said I don't care if its true or false, as its certainly misleading, that was pretty much my point thereQuote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
LMAO, He's unreal ladsQuote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
Think you'll find sonny that the vast majority come over for a few years to save up so they can have a good start back home due to prices (For the moment) being way cheaper in Poland. They do Ireland on the cheap. It really is very basic economics but I've no doubt it would soar like an eagle over your head so not even going to get into it
Yes I am.Quote:
What do you need a grant for? So you get a free education system PLUS €140 more than I get, and you're complaining?
It's nowhere near adequate
I could be on the dole earning four times as much
We don't all have a Mammy and/or Daddy to stump up for us
A large part of the credit for this must go to intellectuals like yourselfQuote:
The image of Limerick outside of the city is that it is a no-go area full of scumbags.
Shur you don't see hotels or buildings by the docks or anything :rolleyes:Quote:
By self inflicted, I mean I don't see much effort to lift this stereotypical image by your city council or by the people
This guy :D
I'm upper middle class now? woohoo! I live in blackpool on the northside of cork, my dad's a sparky and my mam works in dunnes. I drive a 99 C toyota yaris with a slight bump on the front of it, and the only private school i've been inside was doing a job on the wiring. If that was upper middle class I'd be worried about what lower working class was!Quote:
Originally Posted by jebus
Certainly not anyone reading the independant, right? :rolleyes:Quote:
I haven't a clue where these people making a real investment in tourism are expecting the head count to come from but they keep opening new hotels -three in the last two months.
nopeQuote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Nope, well, £30 a year on the book loan scheme.Quote:
books
:confused: no?Quote:
lab fees
noQuote:
"supplementary" course work
like goverment subsidised uniforms?Quote:
and the dozens of other things that secondary and college students (or more likely their parents) have to pay for
I think we are in vehement agreement about the uselful of the figure, but it is what it is!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Its irrelevant in any case as it ignores geographical impact and many other factors.
Old story about the statistician drowing in a river that was one foot deep on average and all that.....
If people are gullible enough to get drawn in by the spin they deserve to be governed by whatever group of cowboys and clowns they elect. And unfortunately we have a history of making the same mistakes over and over again.
Does hilariously ill informed suit you better than upper middle class???Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
This Guy :D :D :D
Well I suppose when Dunnes are forking out a cool 44k salary per person than you know this government is doing right? Seriously either you're lying about your mother working there, or all your points about this average 44k per person has been a waste of everyones time.Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
Oh and a big hello from someone living in Blackpool, North Cork too! :)
It really is very basic economics but I've no doubt it would soar like an eagle over your head so not even going to get into it[/quote]In 5 weeks time I'll have a degree in it :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
Get a part time job in Dunnes like I did if you're not into free money :rolleyes:Quote:
Yes I am.
It's nowhere near adequate
I could be on the dole earning four times as much
We don't all have a Mammy and/or Daddy to stump up for us
:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
So this:
Is your argument on wealth distribution??Quote:
Also, what you cannot discount is that whether or not 44k sounds inflated, we're still higher than any other country. It is this comparison, or rather, the comparison to where we were, that we have to make to decide whether or not we're better off as a people than we were.
And you can't see the difference between a Polish worker and an Irish one??
Sweet Jesus, they'll give a degree to any old spoofer :D
Not that it's any of your business but my self employed dad has been rather sick with this long time so i've been helping him out in between my 40 hours a week or so of coursework.Quote:
Get a part time job in Dunnes like I did if you're not into free money
BTW, If I'm a full time student and education is "free" why should I have to work to survive??
This Guy :D
Why would Dunnes be forking out 44k? My mothers an unskilled till operator, with free education in her day perhaps she could be a manager and a bit closer to that 44k.Quote:
Originally Posted by jebus
Mind you, my mother, a mother returning to the work force, hardly represents the average person earning a living in Ireland and even so she's probably contributing more to the irish economy than that other lad complaining he's not getting enough free cash from the government.
Blackpool, North Cork? :D Is it anywhere near Buttevant? :rolleyes:Quote:
Oh and a big hello from someone living in Blackpool, North Cork too! :)
What in your opinion is typicalQuote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
Honest to God we're all dying to hear about the 44k earning "average" Joes
Ouch, was that a dig at me :rolleyes:Quote:
even so she's probably contributing more to the irish economy than that other lad complaining he's not getting enough free cash from the government.
Couple of years down the line I'll be contributing big time though won't I?? Or have we stumbled upon another concept that brain of yours refuses to grasp??
ZING!!!! :rolleyes:Quote:
Blackpool, North Cork? Is it anywhere near Buttevant?
This Guy :D
What in the name of god are you talking about? I was talking about an average not a distribution. If you want to come to me with a frequency distribution graph detailing where the bulk of irish people's incomes are, go ahead. All i've said about wealth distribution is that it must take soem amount of millionaires to skew our average to the highest in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
Er, no. Well, I work with 5 of them and 3 plan on staying while the other two want to move to London as they miss "the big city". They have to wait til the male in the couple gets his degree here. What I can say is different is that the only thing they complain about is the smoking ban and speed limits.Quote:
And you can't see the difference between a Polish worker and an Irish one??
Y'era sure if it gets the multinationals in ;)Quote:
Sweet Jesus, they'll give a degree to any old spoofer!
:rolleyes: Would you prefer just having to pay the fees? Or perhaps the system in other places where you take out a massive loan and are crippled with debt for the first decade of your career? They'll pay to teach you and pay to house you for college but i doubt they'll feed you too :rolleyes: If you went to a "free" event or collected a "free" product, would you also expect to be paid for it?Quote:
BTW, If I'm a full time student and education is "free" why should I have to work to survive??
Never mind that there are courses where you actually DO get paid...
Yeah, it'll be great. Just think, if you hadn't free education, it probably wouldnt happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
How long before Gavin tries to say he was on a wind up? Oh dear oh dear oh dear
Much like the 44k per year per person your were quoting as a reason to re-elect Fianna Fail hardly represents the average person in IrelandQuote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
There's that famous Cork wit. Seriously though, you said a few posts back that you're going with the Socialist Party this year right? Judging by the difference in quality between your points and our resident socialist, BohsPartison, I'll assume you are going to vote for the Socialists because a pretty girl handed you a flyer one day. Am I right?Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
Sure! I'm on a wind up, or I'm a gullible sheep, or an upper middle class snob wanting to keep my head above the unwashed masses. Also, I'm part of the majority of voters which will keep this government in power. Ce sera...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge