Good result for us. German team in poor form but still juddering on waiting for someone to derail them.Quote:
Originally Posted by graham_d
Good result for us. German team in poor form but still juddering on waiting for someone to derail them.Quote:
Originally Posted by graham_d
Nice to get a high scoring win and a look at some new players but I've seen some better defending from a set of traffic cones for some of them headed goals.
Coleman was excellent in the second half, still wont get near a start though. Meyler did ok also.
Quick summary for me
Standout players were Brady, Coleman and Long
I think the McCarthy/Meyler midfield looked to me as the long-term option. They weren't brilliant, but they were better than i've ever seen whelan/andrews.
What i would love to see against Germany although i doubt it
Westwood
Coleman Dunne O'Shea Wilson
McCarthy Whelan
Brady Long McGeady
Doyle
What we'll likely see
Westwood
O'Shea Dunne Sledge Kelly
Andrews Whelan
Cox Keane McGeady
Doyle
Luxembourg grab a draw against the north. Embarrassing.
They have 2 or 3 better players than we've got but thats itQuote:
Originally Posted by cavan_fan
Coleman, Meyler, Brady and Long were excellent. Wilson didn't have much to do defensively, hard to judge him on this performance. McCarthy was OK, a few pretty basic errors though, not as assertive as Meyler. Played some nice football at times, big improvement on anything we've seen with the usual suspects in situ, even against poor opposition. You can always point out how poor the opposition were, but we've played Northern Ireland and Wales' 'b' teams and Andorra - twice - in recent times without looking nearly as impressive.
Meyler and McCarthy were just so much quicker to find space and control/pick out a pass than Whelan and Andrews - who, let's remind ourselves, weren't even the best Irish midfielders in their age group at underage level, but found themselves in international contention because of fortunate transfers and promotions to the EPL, having been plodding away in the lower leagues for most of their careers. Meyler and McCarthy have been EPL players since their teenage years, and it shows.
That Brady kid has something about him.
Indeed. Luxembourgers need to take a long, hard look at themselves tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by fionnsci
I don't know what's going on, we play a competitive game and we hoof it all night long, we play a friendly and we keep it on the ground all night long. I can only conclude that we are losing valuable practical experience to fine tune our hoofing game in these friendly games.
I thought Meyler had a good game. Broke up the play, passed it well, good engine on him. Offers more than Whelan...
Yeah, Löw is still making excuses about individual mistakes and ignoring the fact that he isn't getting the younger (especially Dortmund) players integrated in his Bayern-heavy team. As long as he keeps doing that there might be hope of them slipping up.... just hopefully it's in Dublin.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Murfinator
Now if you had the choice which team would you field against Germany?
The Kazak team or the Oman team?
I'd pick tonight's full-backs, strikers and central midfielders, certainly.Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
Rather than risk a certain points deduction and perhaps outright expulsion from the competition for fielding players tied to other associations I'd field the Irish team instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
Opposition were poor, but a nice, confident display of football. Brady was excellent, though I'm not sure throwing him in the deep end against the Germans, when McClean should be available, would be the wisest choice.
Then again there was a serious confidence in his play all night. Like McClean, he was playing without a care and it showed. We could do worse than having him in the team. Consider the youth of some of Germany's players...Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
I'd agree with Rebel Music's team except I would have Sledge in for Josh and Andrews in for Whelan. Glenn really has been very very poor the last few games. It's time to be dropped.
That is true about Brady, but he is still just a reservist (albeit for a very good team). If I was picking a left winger it would have to be McClean.
This would be the form team:
(all selected on current form barring Dunne the new skipper)
-----------------Westy
Coleman-----Dunne-----Doc----Wilson
----------Meyler-----McCarthy
Brady---------McGeady--------McClean
----------------Long
Definitely.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
But Brady has to be picked on the bench.
But this has been a thread of thought for the last year At least there's some recognition now.
Can someone please tell me the point of this game? I'm not criticising any of the players because a 4-1 win is a 4-1 win but what did the players gain from it or management? Oman were absolutely useless.
If you want to watch players by all means give them chances, but there is no point pitting them against such weak opposition. It doesn't tell you anything more about them. If a player has a good game, people will still question their ability to do it against quality opposition and especially with the time and space you get against opposition like Oman. You want your players tested. You want your players playing at the highest levels so they have opportunities to learn and improve. They don't do that in games like this.
If we beat Oman 10-0 playing nice football, do people honestly feel it would have any bearing on how we are set up for the rest of the games? I personally don't think it would. The second we come under pressure against any side we would no doubt revert to route 1 again.
This isn't an attack on trap I just feel if were gonna stick with him we should prepare for the competitive games we're going to play , by playing that way in friendlies against stronger opposition because tonights performance will not have any resemblance to how we play against Germany.