Round 2 then?
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Round 2 then?
I assume Boris would have to be dragged kicking and screaming into a referendum. In general, surely any British PM for quite some time is going to be wise to the risks of running a referendum they could lose, so how does Scotland make this happen? Mass demonstrations? I don't see any appetite for that.
I wonder has anyone considered taking over a post office...Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
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Originally Posted by backstothewall
I don't see that happening for now. Not enough unrest. When's the last time it happened in a Western democracy anyway? The ballot box is a big pressure valve.
Not enough telegrams being sent these days either in fairness.
I wonder how comparable the scenes at the Capitol were to the GPO?
The last telegraph office only closed in India about a decade or so ago!Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Maybe an interesting comparison, and maybe a valid answer to the question I asked. I think there's a significant difference though between an attempt to overthrow an external yoke and an internal power grab, at least in the prospects for a stable democracy afterwards. The FPTP system the US uses has seriously undermined their elections as a pressure valve - you don't vote for who you want in power, you vote for the less ****e of two options - so I barely consider them a functional democracy anyway. People underestimate how much the Greens, Labour, PDs, PBP, Democratic Left, Social Democrats, etc., even Sinn Fein have been a stabilising force here. They all act to drag the policies of FF and FG towards more populist positions for fear of having their vote eroded. I won't say it keeps them honest, but let's just say you don't have to imagine how much worse they'd be if they didn't have those pressures on them.Quote:
I wonder how comparable the scenes at the Capitol were to the GPO?
Yeah, America can't declare independence from itself, so it's not directly comparable, but I think there's enough to conflate the two still. The GPO was seized as the comms hub here; that's irrelevant these days and a more symbolic place would be taken instead (such as the Capitol)
It's not going to happen any time soon in Scotland of course.
The strategic place to go after would be Faslane Navy Base. Holding a load of nukes hostage strengthens your bargaining position like nothing else.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu