does anyone know where you can get equipment for a display in Ireland or do you have to order from abroad? Derry usually put on some good displays, any of the Derry boys know where they got them?
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does anyone know where you can get equipment for a display in Ireland or do you have to order from abroad? Derry usually put on some good displays, any of the Derry boys know where they got them?
We get our stuff from Tifo...i think Derry do to.
Can't use them really anymore though.
More importantly, does anyone know if it's hard to get permission from the FAI to use them? I know we got permission for the Cork game but don't know if it was hard to get or not? They state that 'controlled flares' are allowed like.
Tifo.it is probably best, other sites out there but I don't know how reliable they are..
The FAI are doing their best to RUIN Football in this country with ridiculous fines and sanctions for fan activity.
Freedom for Ultras!
No such thing as contolled they are illegal on land, im not looking at another thread with flares smoke bombs in the title my h=soul cant handle itQuote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
Absolutely spot on mate. They're not going to win though.Quote:
Originally Posted by half_full
All these fines are a joke. Is their anything that can be done? Petitions don't work, protests? We are on for buying flares and stuff at the moment but if it's going to cost the club then is it worth it...I hate the F.A.I.
How about everyone bring a flare to the cup final and we start a Mexican wave of flares going off? Seriously it would be a good laugh seeing the stewards running around in circles.Quote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
Alternatively we could kick the **** out of John Delaney
Ultra Power! :D
Check your PM's.Quote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
Sounds class actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by jebus
If we can get enough people I'm up for it anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by BohsPartisan
Well a few of us[Rovers fans] are going to cup final and might be bringing a flare so not a bad idea if everyone joins in:).
...like what??Quote:
They state that 'controlled flares' are allowed like.
The fines imposed are fairly small though so feck it of you go with the flares!
Yep as seen throughout the year, you get a bigger fine if you throw toilet role
Just use them, and dont give a **** about FAI etc.
What you really need to do is get a shi*load like Rovers did against Drogs.
They got only twice the fine that Cork (I think) did for letting off one flare so it's better value for money.
You could also pre-arrange a collection to pay for the fine that the club will receive, that way the club won't ban you! :)
Don't ask me, it's what the FAI say. Flares can only be used when controlled...I can only guess it means somebody trained to use them? If there is such a person:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoops_R_Us
this person looks qualified ;)
http://images.buycostumes.com/mgen/merchandiser/150.jpg
Controlled means standing in front of the stand/terrace AFAIKQuote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
A protest in Merrion Square might not be a bad idea...
Where's Maxi??Quote:
Originally Posted by half_full
As well as the normal reasons for it being pointless, the FAI, as of today are no longer based in Merrion Square.Quote:
Originally Posted by half_full
Anyone know how to get to Abbotstown?
i honestly cant believe this
THERE WAS A PROTEST ON THE 2ND OF NOVEMBER IN MERRION SQ.
about 8 people turned up.
and everyday there is people compliang about the fai john delaney on this site
unbelieveable.
oh yeah we were told by the fai heads that abbotstown is near the aquatic centre
:o I knew they were moving, but not so soon...Quote:
Originally Posted by Anto McC
If you are going to have a propper protest you really need to build for it. You can't just advertise and expect people to turn up. You need an organisation that people affiliate to and trust. The fact that no one really knew who organised that protest didn't really help.Quote:
Originally Posted by the seagull
There have been attempts at setting up supporters organisations before but they have gone awry for various reasons. I'm setting up something with likeminded people. Its open to everyone who agrees with basic principles -
Stop arbitrary fines.
Freedom to stand if you want.
Accommodation for Ultras to carry out displays without any repression.
I have some other ideas for demands too but thats a basic programme for the time being. Its aimed at both the Ultra groups and anyone else who agrees with the general principle.
Anyone who is interested PM me. State if you are a member of an Ultra group and if so which group.
No one from the FAI made any such statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
Well good luck to whoever wants to set up a supporters association for ELOI fans.
I was involved with the first such grouping back in the 1990's and from experience only a small number of people end up doing all the work and when they get fed up the thing normally falls apart.
I'm not really thinking along the lines of a full time association with all the trimmings. I think thats where the previous attempts went wrong. This would be more along the lines of a loose alliance of already existing fans groups at the various clubs and any other individuals who want to help co-ordinate a series of protests on these key issues and if that goes well we'll see where we take it from there.
Who are you to tell me nobody said such a thing? Maybe not to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Savic
Noel Mooney said it and last time I checked, he works for the FAI
I think they did alright. Something about obtaining permission from them and then have someone in charge who knows what he's doing, or some such nonsenseQuote:
Originally Posted by Sam Savic
Good. Get it in writing so. You'll be waiting a long time though. I'll reiterate what I said to you already - no one from the FAI made any such statement. Send them a simple e mail. Print the reply you get on this forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
Maybe you just didn't read what you've quoted there but I already said, Mooney has said it. I don't need to justify anything to you by sending an e-mail to the FAI so go away now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Savic
Sam Savic is right lads, just check it out if you want.
He's clearly not right though Anto. I've already said Mooney said it. Maybe they've changed there mind since but he's clearly wrong when he says no one from FAI ever said it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anto McC
In fairness to Sligoman GUFC were also told that controlled flares were permitted.
When we played Sunderland flares were allowed on the pitch as the teams came out after consultation with the referee and FAI officials before the match.
Yes and we were given permission, from the FAI, for a 'display' for the final home game Vs. Cork this season
They weren't flares Conor. Fireworks are a different thing. And certain smoke displays are permitted. However, flares are not permitted at football grounds under any circumstances.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conor H
No problem with a firework display under controlled conditions.
He said no one from the FAI made any such statement, if he means an actual official formalised statement, then he is right. Noel Mooney may have said to you but if you go looking for an official statement, you'll be a while looking.Quote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
Bumping this up ... Just need to know where is best to buy some smoke and flares etc. at the moment
http://www.ultrasshop.com/ 100% best