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Just to let you all know that Cliftonville v Linfield is on live tonight on Sky 1 if anyones interested! kick off is at 7.45pm. should be a good match, no doubt the blues will be looking for revenge after we beat them at windsor park last week.
Now all it remains for me to do is find a bar in Galway that is showing this match!:confused:
was it called off?
Watched the match on sky sport thought it was a superb ad for il football2-2fair result good turn out of cliftonville fans atmosphere was good.
Yip it was great stuff alright. Really enjoyable game, atmosphere and coverage. Good ad for the game of football in generalQuote:
Originally Posted by waide
Good coverage from Sky, a good crowd and not a bad game. A good advert for the IL overall - better than most EL games I've seen televised this season.
Solitude made me realise what it is that makes even our better grounds look poor on TV. That big steep stand they have at Solitude looks great on TV - particularly when it's draped in banners. Makes it look like a proper big stadium, which EL grounds almost nerver do.
What was the crowd anyways ?
BTW - I loved the way the Sky build-up showed the sign on the stadium wall saying 'no flags that aren't in club colours'. Followed shortly by a view full of tricolours and Union flags. Pointless having such a policy if you don't have the intention of enforcing it....
Its the colours of Linfield. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
Steve do you think on last nights showing that Cliftonville could maybe shock a few teams in the Setanta?Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
They play like that in most games they play against Linfield and in recent times they have had the more favourable results.
It's called hype and Sky are the Emperors; not that our leagues couldn't do with a bit of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue Trader
I thought from the Ulster flags that they played in the same colours as Derry City....... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Graemerz
(doubtless you'll aim to justify it by claiming that red and white is 2/3rds of their colours...:o)
I'm sure if Linfield hypothetically changed kit colour overnight, all the political emblems would disappear....
I can't say to be honest Steve.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Bruce
I was playing Extreme Multi-tasking last night - channel-hopping between that and the Bohs-Pats game, whilst also hosting a meeting at my house in the room next door (in-view of the television).......! :D
I therefore didn't get more than an overview of the game.
Did watch much of it to be honest as Pats v Bohs on TG4 was a better game.
With half one side all parked cars on display :eek:. Thought it looked amateurish. Also the name Solitude: depressing name if there ever was one.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
Cliftonville where know as the amatuars because up until a couple of decades ago they where amataur
I thought Sky presented it very well and the game did nothing to harm the image of the Irish League.
The preview with the history of the league was very well put together. They said the next live game is the Boxing Day derby - I'm looking forward to it.
Indeed they were along with Bohs down south.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Bruce
Theyll probably move the Boxing day derby to a 12 noon kick off, which will probably ruin the occasion a bit. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by JC_GUFC
I was only talking about the big stand though. It looked really good on TV with all the flags draped over it. We don't have anything of a similar 'double-deck' nature in the EL (bar the tiny Glentoran stand at the Brandywell that never has any banners on it anyway).Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
I'm certainly no Linfield fan (perish the thought) and I don't approve of unnecessary political references in football, but without carrying out some sort of geometric study, the overwhelming impression of the Linfield support was that they were wearing their club colours - convenient, or otherwise - as this photo demonstrates:Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
http://www.southstandsays.co.uk/gall.../10002/q51.jpg
There is hardly an NI flag to be seen. Whereas, a significant number of the Cliftonville banners were Irish Tricolours - a stark contrast to their club colours. Still, it made me laugh when they were singing about "hating the Orange *******s" etc, when theirs was the only orange on display anywhere! :)
Still, overall a good evening for both teams and the Carnegie Irish League. :ball:
Well I did'nt watch much of Pats v Bohs because I thought the Cliftonville v Linfield game was better.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
We'll have to gree to disagree on this one me thinks:D
Well hope you enjoyed the show thought it was a good advert for the IL and I'm happy that our good record against the Blues remains intacct! Thought that Solitude looked well attendance was roughly 2500-3000 and while there was some idiotic chanting from a minority in both sets of supporters the majority of them were well behaved.
This bodes well for the coming season and hopefully we can make an impact in the setanta cup as well!
As for the flags issue don't really like to see any political flags at a match myself but at the end of the day its part of society up North and I can't see that changing for a while yet and as dcfcsteve says it wouldn't matter what colour Linfield played in you would no doubt still see Union flags at there matches! Ps I noticed two NI flags in the Linfield end anyways.
Aye you forgot to mention the meatwagons parked there too! well thought Solitude looked well and I'm sure it is better than some grounds in the EL and we're supposed to be building a new stand behind one of the Goals sometime soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Neither side should use political flags/emblems - I don't draw distinction between either team.Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
What is the point in having signs at Solitude expressing a policy that is clearly not enforced ? :confused: Farcical.....
I'm afraid you must have selected deafness. :( Linfield fans sung/chanted nothing of a sectarian nature, unless "Rule Britannia" is classed as "dodgy"! I'm glad a section of your fans really hate "orange *******s", feel that David Jeffrey is a sad "orange *******" and Amhrán na bhFiann is appropriate to be introduced for the Sky audience. When our fans misbehave, I will be very critical, but when they are well behaved, I will not tolerate a tissue of lies!!! :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by SolitudeRed
Apparently that is a sectarian song.Quote:
Originally Posted by BleusAvantTout
When Linfield sang that in the Setanta Cup I was not offended though as I found it funny as in - where is your Empire now? :o
So Rule Britannia is okay and Amhrán na bhFiann isn't............sweet jesus.Quote:
Originally Posted by BleusAvantTout
Both have nothing to do with either club and should be banned. Suggest everyone joins in in a hearty rendition of Irelands Call, followed by Van the Man singing Days like This......
I wouldnt lose sleep over it. Had to smile when I saw the sign but didnt have any problems hanging a tricolour in the cage!Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
Flags add much needed colour to grounds and no flag should be banned IMO. Dont know why people are getting worked up over singing. Who cares what fans sing? In any derby the world over there are going to be songs sung that will annoy the opposition. That is the idea.
Very enjoyable occasion monday night.
KOH
This makes no sense at all. If you feel that Rule Britannia is OK to sing (and I'd agree), how can you think that Amhrán na bhFiann isn't?Quote:
Originally Posted by BleusAvantTout
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Originally Posted by NY Hoop
I would agree with you, this once. However the UEFA 10 Point Plan certainly wouldn't.
So would you approve of a Swastika?Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
Obviously. Havent you heard all Rovers fans are nazis?!!Quote:
Originally Posted by gspain
BTW would anyone have a spare programme? Couldnt get any monday.
KOH
What is that amhran song ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
That song they used to sing before the rugby matches.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Bruce
Well I wasn't at the match myself but my brother and his mate were and they told me that some of the Blues fans were singing about the Glentoran being Fenian Bs at one stage. But at the end of the day yes there was probably more of such chanting from the Reds end and considering that this was a big home game for us you would have to expect that a lot of blow in so called 'fans' would turn up and sing these sort of tunes! While the Linfield fans who go to Solitude are heavily vetted to prevent most of these type muppets getting to the game!Quote:
Originally Posted by BleusAvantTout
As for the flags thing The Assembly should bring in legislation banning political flags from games although this has been done in Scotland but doesn't really seem to have eradicated sectarianism in football over there!
Told my Brother to get me one but he forgot and I'm pretty sure that they are all sold out now:mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
Were there many Rovers fans up at Solitude for the game then?
About 6 with 3 flags.Quote:
Originally Posted by SolitudeRed
KOH
You may not be aware but throughout the not so recent history of this fixture both GSTQ & Amhrán na bhFiann have been used by each side to wind up the other. This, in my opinion, degrades both anthems. I don't think the singing of "Rule Britannia" is appropriate at a football match. It is more suited to the jingoistic "last night at the proms"!Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
Ireland's Call is not, AFAIK, popular at present within the unionist population. A fact that stems to GSTQ not been played at the recent Ireland game at Ravenhill. I am not authority on egg chasing and I have no interest in it whatsoever. I'm just going by what I heard on phone-ins up here!!
The behaviour of both sets of fans on Monday night was light years ahead of what this fixture would have attracted in the late 70s/early 80s. For that both clubs and their fans should be commended.
That makes it in a small minority of things the whole island can agree on.Quote:
Originally Posted by BleusAvantTout
I think you missed the point though, Rule Britannia and Amhrán na bhFiann are both sung to reinforce the nationality of each clubs fans.
Personally, I'd prefer not to have to ban any of this kind of stuff. The only true solution will be when the meatheads that follow every club (some more than others) feel they don't have to ram their nationality down everyone elses throat at a football match.
Point taken though that huge progress has been made from 20-30 years ago.
People here are asking for the Union Jack to be banned from Irish League matches... Why should the national flag be banned in its country?
The whole night seemed to be a resounding success in relative terms for IPL football - there will always be mavericks at a game, if there weren't we wouldn't need security. While I don't doubt that there were negative aspects, the important thing is that the whole occasion was well received. BTW, a few words on it here.
Whats your nationality got to do with a domestic football match?Quote:
Originally Posted by Graemerz
PS If you are going to retort with something along the lines of "its a free world....you should be able to do whatever you want" that doesn't answer my question.