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Both had their appeals to FIFA rejected tonight. What an absolute joke! The Mascherano case was cited by CCFC in the appeal, he was obviously on a lucrative deal with West Ham but got his move while both Healy & Farrelly were unemployed when we signed them. The 3 club rule is a joke and breaks EU legislation and if the FAI have any balls they will pardon CCFC to play the two players! What a shambles!
With the benefit of hindsight should you have let the FAI argue your case rather than take it on yourself?
Whys should the FAI pardon you when they took other players cases to UEFA for decision and those players got cleared?
Also, the restriction of trade is only alleged, someone has to take it to the European Court to prove it( a la Bosman). Are your pockets that deep?
Cork knew this when they got the players, no need to blame FIFA.
Sure FIFA are angewls, Healy for example is supposedl on a pay-per-play deal with a small basic package and a large amount for every appearance, FIFA are blocking him from taking in a proper full time income. Whereas Mascherano was probably on Stg50,000+ a week at West Ham but wasn't getting a game so FIFA pardoned him. They are hypocrites and a complete bunch of muppets!Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBoss
TheBoss, come off the stage man.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBoss
Cork are the muppets for taking the case on themselves. Why not let the FAI fight your corner from day one?
Too steep to come down ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
FIFA made an exception for all the other players when it seemed more logical that Cork had more of a reason for their players, plus they made an exception for Mascherano which was similar to their cases. Cork have every reason to feel angered and shafted.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBoss
I don't really care if specifically Cork got the players or not, IMO the bigger problem lies in the fact that the league is losing two quality players:ball:
Looks to me like Cork fecked up. The FAI handled the case for the other 9 players (all cleared) but Cork went alone.
Anyone know why?
Was Hynes cleared for Derry?
RRS.:confused: :( :o
Probably because City had already started a week or so beforehand.
Not fully sure what kind of cooperation there was between City and FAI.
Rock Solid.
My ass is hurting me like.
Shafted real hard.
Cork City- ridden rock solid by Zurich.Quote:
Originally Posted by Risteard
Possible scenarios now:
a) Nothing happens. We wait until July, having paid the players for 5 months to do nothing, georgie style.
b) city terminate one or other or both of their contracts due to contractual frustration.
c) healy or farrelly take the case to the EU, like jon bosman.
d) the fai grow a pair and get this sorted.
Dunno could it have been that the cases the FAI were handling were all players who were playing within this country as opposed to our 2 who played in the UK, maybe a different tact was required?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Sick to my stomach either way.
Roy was right.
There must be a right of a appeal. Court of Arbitration for Sport?
Hilariously funny though.
Farrelly will be delighted, he gets paid for nothing.
It's a disgrace, the FAI have to get involved and put pressure on FIFA. One rule for rich clubs another for Irish clubs, Cork really are being ridden rock solid.
I am sick to death of cork whinging!!
why not get sir roy to fix it? The FAI offered to help all the clubs in the same boat, cork as usual feel they are better than anyone else in the country and dont need help so went their own way, made an a*se of it and now are blaming everyone else. I am only waiting for sir roy to jump on this band wagon and find a way to blame the fai as well.
No doubt the FAI will take the case now on corks behalf so stop whinging and get on with things
Hynes played in the UK (Newry City) (Yes, yes, same island blah blah, but as far as FIFA are concerned what should be the difference between him playing for Dundalk - Newry - Derry and Farrelly playing for Bohs - Blackpool - Cork?)Quote:
Originally Posted by razor
It certainly does. A court case is immenent but it should be the FAI that takes it to sort this out once and for all. City should be allowed to play the players in Ireland.Quote:
Originally Posted by adamcarr
Finland's FA ignored the whole rule as they play summer football and seem to have had no sanctions from UEFA. Maybe the FAI should have followed them. UEFA should have allowed the players to play in the Eircom League and earn a living but blocked them from playing in Europe for Cork. That would have been a better compromise.
I think that in Farrelly's case it should have been expected. He played in the eircom league last season, went off and played in England during the off season and now is coming back to play in the eircom league for the new season.
It may not be legal but its exactly what FIFA were trying to stop.
Maybe there's an anti Cork bias in FIFA :D
I personally don't know who handled it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
All the talk on our own forum is that City were going to go through with it on their own but were advised by the FAI to let them handle a combined effort which they duly did.
So was it City solo or was it the FAI?, answers on lighted petrol bomb to FIFA HQ (Maxi need not apply)
City took the cases themselves because the FAI originally did nothing. I believe the FAI were at least 2 weeks behind the City cases.
I believe we were correct to try improve our team & league with quality players.
FIFA either have a rule or they don't. How can they make exceptions for some players & not others?
There is no doubt that the rule wouldn't stand a chance in the EU courts but don't think we have the time or resources to pursue this.
I bet there are hundreds if not thousands of players who have ignored this rule every season throughout europe - pity the FAI couldn't do the same.
All the FAI and Cork City press releases I've seen indicated that the FAI were handling all 10 cases, including Healy & Farelly. So Ballax yourself!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
Per the City website our solicitor is looking at the FIFA ruling. The main thing at the moment is to see how our case is different from the other FAI cases and Mascherano.
How did the Cork cases get sorted last then?Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
Again.Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsPartisan
I'm gutted by this. I was really looking forward to welcoming the spoofer back to Dalymount.
To be honest as far as Farrelly is concerned anyway it's a blessing in disguise for Cork.
So what actually happened lads, did Cork take on FIFA themselves, or be sensible and allow help from Dublin for once? Since the FAI cases all came out favourable and on time I'll assume that Cork decided to go it alone, which leads me to say......Quote:
Originally Posted by paudie
tough ****! The club went against a FIFA law, asked them to turn a blind eye and on this case FIFA didn't. No use whinging about Liverpool, FIFA and the FAI, you lot should be whinging about how your case wasn't as good as the ones put forward by Liverpool, the FAI and whoever else has gone against this rule.
Surely you don't mean Healy and Farrelly :eek: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by pete
FIFA didn't block the Mascherano transfer because they knew Liverpool have the financial means to fight any other decision, Cork on the other have don't. Mascherano's move was a much higher profile case as well. Ultimately, they want this rule in place, even though it contravene's European Law, so they want to be able to say 'No' to someone and the best clubs to say 'No' to are the ones who can't afford to fight back....the W@nkers.Quote:
Originally Posted by charliesboots
Sure where's Cork's rebel spirit in all this? Surely they could set up their own independent football organisation down there, cut themselves off from the rest of us, and crack unfunny in-jokes about how they're the real FIFA for the next few decades ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shelsman
Blah, blah, blah....A piece of advice for you my green and white friend. If you don't have anything constructive to add to a debate then don't say anything at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenandwhite
I am sorry that our club tried to add better players to the league. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by jebus
So what now? Appeal? Release them?
I'd like to see the club take it beyond this stupid rule and contest it in a court of law. No matter what anyone says, its unlawful to stop someone from working and they should be brought to book for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philly
But they are not being stopped from working. They are still picking up their wage packets. If Cork want to sign players that cannot play competitively until July then that's their perogative. FIFA also have a rule that a red card for violent conduct means you cannot play for three games. Appeal that the next time Gamble has a rush of blood and "cannot work".Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
Cork must have done something different in the appeal to the ones the FAI handled.
Although its a silly rule and FIFA should let them play its hilarious from a Drogs viewpoint given their vitriol against us. First King George sits in stnads picking up a huge wage for months and now Farrelly and Healy do the same. Keep it going Rico - the Ricky Gervais of the EL:D