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LMAO. Ward gets Ireland thread now he moving abroad.Quote:
Originally Posted by gustavo
Sad. :rolleyes:
He's had one before. Maybe I should have given him one last week when he was sitting around on his post season holidays. It could have been titled 'Ward Drinks a Pint of Guinness in Local'.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
Why does he warrant oen today?Quote:
Originally Posted by youngirish
:confused:
I dunno? Possibly because he's moving to another club? Maybe because he's progressing to a higher level of football (yes true)? Probably because if he does indeed move and performs well he'll be in an Ireland squad in the not too distant future? Take your pick.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
General Football so?Quote:
Originally Posted by youngirish
No it should stay here because he was a regular with the u-21s , its not like he's George O Callaghan , who seemingly warranted a thread in here cos Ipswich might be getting him !
I would apply the same logic to O'Callaghan but not to the same extent as Ward is a regular Ireland youth player. Whatever the EL fans think the reality of the matter is their players are rarely if ever considered for Ireland squads whereby Championship players are regulars. If you need a moan and this situation is unfair then talk to Stan and his mates at the FAI. I can't do anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by gustavo
The sad fact is if O'Callaghan or Ward are playing well regularly for Ipswich or Wolves respectively they'll defo end up in an Ireland squad sooner rather than later down the line. Even if they are lighting up the EL with their talents the same cannot be said.
Lads if the guy plays regularly for Wolves and starts scoring in the same way as Doyle does they he can be conisdered for the Ireland sqaud and team. Until then he has not moved to a higher level of football as he may be playing for Wolves reserves etc.
That's pedantic Pete, come on. An Ireland U-21 player gets a move from Bohs to Wolves - that's news that affects Ireland, not just Bohs and not just Wolves.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
Former U21 player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donal81
I take back the pedantic remark...:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
When did he grow out of the U-21s? He's listed here - http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=c...sk=view&id=921 - not exactly a bastion of reliability.
Either way, it's an Irish player getting a move to a big club in the Championship so it obviously affects the national team.
FFS pete, are you going to do this with every move? This forum is for Irish players, not just those in the current squad. If he leaves the league, where else are they going to talk abouit him
100% spot on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
This forum has always been more about Irish players playing abroad than the Ireland team itself. We consistently talk about young players who are or never have been near the Ireland setup but are plying their trade in England and in some way qualify for Ireland.
In fairness to Mick McCarthy he has been known to give youth a chance so this is a good oppurtunity for Ward. Whether he is up to it or not is another thing, last season seemed to be a bit of a write off for him most of it probably not his fault because he was playing on the wing but he never really imposed himself. I met him during the summer in a nightclub after the Ireland u21 game against Belgium and he was pure sound so good luck to him.
Should point oput to those who don't follow the league that Ward wouldn't be in the top ten strikers in it. And he's 21, its not like he's Anthony Stokes or anything
Bang on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
pete (as many others including me) obviously is annoyed and baffled that it takes a player moving to England to have to be spoken about as a possible Irish international and only appear on the radar of the paddy wagon when they do move. Why wasn't he talked about here before? He hasn't improved as a player just because an Irish team has put in a bid for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
If he was talked about before it would be in the Eircom League section or the Bohs section as thats where he was playing. Now he is playing for Wolves the appropriate place for him is the Ireland section cause he plays for ireland or the World Section cause he plays for Wolves.
And as the "Which forum should we put Stephen Ward in?" row rumbles on, foot.ie finally crawls up its own backside and dies. Rather like Dublin City come to think of it. ;)
KOH
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Originally Posted by youngirish
Bit of a shame really as this forum strictly speaking should be just about the national team and not just Irish players everywhere except Ireland :)
Of course, such as thread wouldn't be possible without a Rovers fan to fulfil their foot.ie role of putting everyone straight.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
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Originally Posted by Macy
and than we have Sheridan to put them straight. I've lost track of the score at this stage. Sheridan 67 Assorted Rovers Fans 0???
But he no more plays for Ireland now than he did last week. I think he should be discussed here when and if he does anything to suggest he is worth calling up (which seems unlikely). Until then the main interest is surely from an eL point of view.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
He's an u21 international, you do know that don't you?
Whats wrong with having two threads? One for those who know, who for those who don't
Jamie McCarthy , a 16 year old playing in Scotlands lower divisions warranted a threadQuote:
Originally Posted by cavan_fan
Sheridan cant see straight at this stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by wws
WAR is spot on there. How the fcuk can anyone argue why a thread on Ward is in the Ireland section? Mods here should be deleting crap like that. Wont hold my breath though.
KOH
A pincer attack by wws and Sheridan? We're doomed....Quote:
Originally Posted by wws
I'm bringing my class prejudice off to an Irish cricket forum to start having a pop at posh people for no reason other than the chip on my shoulder.
Macy - What's eating you? Things that bad at the Town?
KOH
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Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
sheridan's doin a pretty good job all on his own
I'd never p;ss on another man's racket, he's got the rovers fans in their box
Well they do seem to appear when either a) he posts or b) he's mentioned.
Why? What's the difference between this thread and this:Quote:
Originally Posted by NY Hoop
http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=37217
or this:
http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=37541
or this:
http://foot.ie/showthread.php?t=37483
...or any thread to do with the transfer of an Irish player in the Ireland forum? EL fans need to really look at themselves before slagging off the rest. He's not just mentioned because he's moving to Wolves. There's also a couple of U-21 threads where he's discussed. I thought he had a great game against Belgium. If I thought he had a great game against Pats I'd post it in the EL forum.
I can understand your all feelings on this as I have similar opinions on Irish football fans who don't support the national team.
This thread is an absolute joke. Who cares where the threads go? Its not exactly pivotal. Of course he warrants a thread here. Pretty much every single post has been about whether or not the thread should be here! Could we have a bit more discussion about the actual player please?! Because its been fairly minimal so far!
He's a minimal sort of player IMOQuote:
Originally Posted by republicofwhite
I think he is an U17 international.Quote:
Originally Posted by gustavo
Technically this is in the International section.
Anyway back on topic please... :p (i've made my point now i'll move on)
jamie has only been selected in a squad, so no appearances as yet..so not an international??:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
is the topic whether ward is now automatically more deserving of a call-up as a wolves player, or that wolves paid the 'right' amount, or what? :confused:
unfortunately instead of clearing things up early on pete's pedantics precipitated petty posting preventing productive postulations
As you can see from a few links I posted we discuss pretty much every transfer of Irish players oversea's on this forum. Once you're Irish you can be discussed here but if it's more relevant to the Eircom League then it's obviously better off in that forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingdom hoop
The "Bohs to Wolves" thread in the EL forum will usually be a discussion on the fee paid for him and things like that. The equivalent thread on this forum would usually go into a debate about how this move will help his progression and if he has potential to be good enough for Ireland.
Ward has been discussed plenty on this forum.
Probably most recently here:
http://www.foot.ie/showthread.php?t=48638
EL fans don't like Irish football followers that don't follow the national league so as soon as this thread was open they see him as only being recognised as soon as he leaves Ireland. That's not the case. I think anyone that posts regularly here will know of Ward.
sound eirebhoy, looking out for the new kid on the block! i'm beginning to understand the politics and stuff alright. as an aside i must say i'm enjoying the community and the warmth of the residents.
Jaysus I hope you don't fall off that high horse anytime soon, looks like a long way down....:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hooperatzi
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I'm bringing my class prejudice off to an Irish cricket forum to start having a pop at posh people for no reason other than the chip on my shoulder.
KOH[/QUOTE]
Does playing cricket mean you are a posh person and what is a posh person ? Reason I ask is that I played cricket from the age of 7 and also rugby in addition to soccer (no GAA sports mind you !!), I've also follwowed Rovers for more than 35 years ???? I'm not in anyway unique... lots of guys I grew up with are the same and the idea of us been described as being posh would make us laugh... guess the reason was the location of Milltown..within a few minutes walk of our leafy D4 and D6 slums....