Steven Ireland was brill yesterday
Must be i nnext friendly squad - maybe the future is not so bleak with
him and elliott doing so well
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Steven Ireland was brill yesterday
Must be i nnext friendly squad - maybe the future is not so bleak with
him and elliott doing so well
he is a bit young though
All the papers said he played really well. 3 English papers put him down as 17 though when he's actually 19.Quote:
Originally Posted by concanta
He should get some U21 games to get experience as would be unlikely to get much seniot team action. Then again Givens is still U21 manager so who knows how he'd ruin him... :eek:
why not though
if he is playing with man city and turning out good performances he should be in first team
not every game but for a few of the friendlies so he knows what its like and gets some experience
feck it, we have 11 months of friendly matches to look forward to, if you can't bring new players through now then when can you?
my next team based on current form would be
Kenny ( give him experience and give Shay a rest)
Finnan
Dunne
O'Brien
Harte
Duff
A Reid
Ireland
S Reid
Elliott
Doyle
btw is the sheff utd player GEARY irish - i presume he is maybe he might come through
has played recently for sheff utd and they look very very good
this guy has played what 4 maybe 5 premiership games and you put him straight into the team . even for a friendly i would just about have him in the squad
Joey O'Brien played the full 90 in Boltons win over WBA today... I don't wanna read to much into the emmergence of Ireland and O'Brien just yet because we've seen it before and been let down with McPhail, Barry Quinn and even Tony Sheridan ffs.
But the progress of O'Brien, Ireland and centre half McShane of late has given me some glimmer of hope. I'll be happy if the the first two reach double figures for apps in the premiership this season. Darren Potter should go on loan though.
I'm pretty sure Sheffield's Geary is Irish.
O'Brien played at right back for Bolton afaik.Quote:
Originally Posted by dr_peepee
If he's the guy on loan from Villa, he's English and considers himself so. I could be thinking of a completely different player though....I don't follow the Coco Pops ChampionshipQuote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
He's a right back from Dublin. Not getting his game for United and is 25 so doubt he's an international prospect. Never know though. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by 4tothefloor
I know this has come up before but what about Lawrence, hes eligible as far as I know, played quite well yesterday. Would be worth at try on the right wing.
People in here should wait and see at the end of the season whether these players can do it for a long period
maybe liam lawerence wouldn't be a bad option he's at least worth a look. we haven't got many options on the right of midfield;)
Geary is Irish, used to be a fan favourite at Wednesday....but at 5'5 or 5'6, he kinda tiny, even for a fullback.
He's a mediocre Championship player at best nowhere near International standard. Even Mabury would be well ahead of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaucyJack
He was a fan's favourite because he was a hard tackler and put in a lot of effort ... very workman. Maybe he should be included in the squad training sessions just to show the others how to play with a bit of heart!
I was going to start a separate thread but half the points I was going to make are here on this one anyway.
All the last few weeks I've been hearing that the cupboard is bare & there's nobody coming through, mainly from people who can barely see past their noses about Irish football but yet are happy to get paid by the media for offering their "expert" advice. Ronnie Whelan, Frank the Plank & Rayo Houghton spring to mind.
Paul Howard wrote an excellent article in yesterday's Tribune but spoilt it by saying that there's nothing coming through.
Is this really the case?
Under 19s, almost every one of which is a great prospect, thump Italy 4-1 & playing qaulity football on the way. OK, so getting the best out of these guys is out of our / FAI's control but it hardly spells a bleak future.
5 Irish in the side that wins the FA Youth Cup.
Joey O'Brien breaking into the Bolton first team.
Glenn Whelan captaining SWFC at 20.
Paul McShane.
Stephen Elliott.
Clinton Morrison showing great form & rewarding any manager that shows faith in him.
Stephen Elliott
Graham Kavanagh, OK no spring chicken, getting described as "excellent" by The Times, getting 8/10 for his latest quality premiership performance.
Alan Quinn showing again on Friday that he's got plenty to offer, always looking to do something positive on the ball.
Alan Mahon's goal.
Shame Supple getting Ipswich fans' MOTM yesterday.
Owen Garvan orchestrating central midfield for Ipswich aged 17.
Kevin Doyle
Stephen Ireland
And so on.
Maybe it's just me popping the happy pills too often but I think there's plenty that an inspirational manager can do to restore a spring in the step to this Irish side. Step forward Martin O'Neill
(OK, so I've changed my mind a bit on who should be next manager:))
Fair play Stuttgart, thats the sort of post that should happen a lot more on this.
Don't forget Darren Gibson from Derry who scored against Italy, he is only 17. Plays regularly for Man Utd youth squad.
Don't mean to be petty but he's actually a regular in their reserves. Man Utd reserves at 17 is excellent. Spend a year or so there, then get a loan out like McShane/O'Shea. Just checked, its his 18th birthday tomorrow. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Speranza
Do you mean Terry Gibson of Spurs. He has the choice to play for Ireland or EnglandQuote:
Originally Posted by Speranza
who is the other stephen elliot? what position does he play?
I agree with Stuttgart88 (Hard not to with the impcecable grammer and well structureed arguments:) ). But i think the former players have a point also. I haven't read in detail their individual comments about the playing resourses but I think the point they're making is that there's a break now in the conveyer of playing talent that's gonna take a few years to fill. We really need the need players of 22, 23, 24, 25 to be performing at a higher standard than they are now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Just heard tonight that he is in the squad for the Carling cup match.Quote:
Don't mean to be petty but he's actually a regular in their reserves. Man Utd reserves at 17 is excellent. Spend a year or so there, then get a loan out like McShane/O'Shea. Just checked, its his 18th birthday tomorrow.
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBoss
that'd be Dixon, not Gibson.
Ireland inks new deal
STEPHEN Ireland has signed a new four-year contract with Manchester City.
The deal, which was agreed in principle last week, will keep the 19-year-old at Eastlands until 2009 and confirms his reputation as one of the most promising young players on City's books.
Ireland has made his big breakthrough this season after Blues boss Stuart Pearce took the Cork-born midfielder on the club's pre-season tour to Thailand.
After making his first senior appearance in the home defeat to Bolton last month, Ireland has been an ever-present, making six appearances in total and is expected to be part of the side which faces Aston Villa on Monday.
"I am delighted with the contract," Ireland told www.mcfc.co.uk
"I spoke to the gaffer and said that I wanted to stay as long as I possibly could. To get an extension through to 2009 is absolutely brilliant for me. I want to stay here, keep playing and keep proving myself."
Go on stuttgart, A bit of optimision is very much appreciated by me. Maybe we should petition for you to be involved in the new Ireland management structure as a motivational coach or something. What do you other foot.ier think, worth starting a petition?!!:D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Thanks Stuggart. I needed that! Too much negativity lately. I love the national team. It's the only sporting event I can truly feel passionate about other than my Dubs.
Deligted to see a new crop (hopefully) coming up.
Ireland continues to get coverage, it is nice to see 2 Irish youngsters break into the first team at Premiership clubs - O'Brien & Ireland certainly have real potential to make the grade.
http://sport.independent.co.uk/footb...icle323384.ece
He just did a superb bit of skill, trap and side back-heel to feed in Andy Cole vs Villa tonight. He outfoxed the entire Villa defence with one move, great play. All in all he has had a good game so far, a little bit too over eager at times but there is lots of potential.
speaking of the U21's game against italy.. it is meant to be on the telly some of these days.. does anyone know when ?
Do you mean the Under-19 game that took place almost 2 weeks ago. Highlights of it on Friday night at 8 o'clock on RTE, I think?Quote:
Originally Posted by thejollyrodger
You can see Irelands bit of skill on Sky Sports, in about 2 mins, and every hour thereafter presumably.
yes i mean the u19s
thanx T.J.PM. i must set the video:)
Ireland's definitely worth a call up in the next friendly... there's plenty of open squad places now:ball:
I suppose we can look forward to headlines such as:-
"Ireland scores two as Ireland score three"....
I'll get my coat...:o
He sure looked the real deal tonight, that's Everton, Ham and Villa now he's survived against and looked better each time. Worked hard tonight, but also found time on the ball to be delicate and sublime. Please Lord let him be the real deal for Irelands sake (pardon the pun)Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
Just saw the Irish Irelands silky skill, reminded me of Zidane.. Im glad people have spotted a tiny light at the end of this dark depressing tunnell.