just caught the tail end of 96fm news online....who have City signed from Waterford?
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just caught the tail end of 96fm news online....who have City signed from Waterford?
Kelvin Flanagan...........just kidding ! :DQuote:
Originally posted by Pablo
just caught the tail end of 96fm news online....who have City sighned from Waterford?
If they had any sense they'd sign Andy Myler -City need a proven Goalscorer ( and a target man like him might take the pressure off Mulligan ).
ah come on lads....very slow with the info today
Its Alan Reynolds....good ol www.redfm.ie :)
he's with Longford....formerly Waterford....and a good player too whenever i saw him. Its the first of a few signings on the cards according to redfm
Lets hope Reynolds isn't the biggest signing before next season.
Looks like be fine squad or average midfield players but can't see him being the great creative hope players we badly need.
he works in the glass factory in Waterford.
Cork manager Liam Murphy said: "I've no comment. He's a Longford Town player."
Murphy has returned from the USA and will spend the rest of the week assessing his player options ahead of next season.
© Mark McCadden - Setanta.com
There's talk of signing John Frost (think it's John anyway) from Waterford alright.
He's the handy left back.
There's been rumours of this for the last few seasons but I believe there is foundation in the story this time.
Frost was supposed to be the next great thing in the league a few years back and he doesn't seem to have done much since. We already have hoggy, no need for anyone else.
We dont need Frost, I dont know much about Reyonlds. I feel our priorities should be, sign Billy Woods immediatley as he is a natural replacment for O££IE. Also a good striker, who has a proven goalscoring record.
A new manager would be nice aswell (we can always dream)!!!
seeing as Rico has left Rovers, i would imagine Billy may be that bit easier to target now too...
Apparently Billy Woods is thinking of staying with Rovers.
Rovers seem to think that moving to Tallagh and the UEFA Cup game will bring in lots of revenue and more support. They have offered BW a payrise!
(This is from my new found rovers fans in Dublin!)
What are you saying? If an employer offered you a better job with better pay would you turn it down?Quote:
Originally posted by COLM
he is a natural replacment for O££IE.
Do you think that once a player has lined out for Cork City that he is not entitled to play for any other team? What about all the players who left their clubs to sign for Cork City?
Of course I would. Its called loyalty. (make a note boss if you monitoring me ;) )Quote:
Originally posted by Shelsman
What are you saying? If an employer offered you a better job with better pay would you turn it down?
I think that as Corkonians, we want a team full of Cork born & bread players, or at the very least, Munster players, ALA Barcelona and Catalan players. It really hurts us when one of our players joins another team, but especially a Dublin one, hence Morley has never been fully forgiven by some fans at the X. This is also the reason why Jimmy Mulligan hasnt been fully accepted with Cork yet, even though he's been here 2 years now. Olli€ was an 'honorary' Cork Man, thats why it hurts so bad that he went to $hel$ of all clubs. :(Quote:
Originally posted by Shelsman
What are you saying? If an employer offered you a better job with better pay would you turn it down?
Do you think that once a player has lined out for Cork City that he is not entitled to play for any other team? What about all the players who left their clubs to sign for Cork City?
If players are sold by the board, well then thats the clubs choice, not theirs, but if they just 'down tools' and leave to Dublin... :mad:
That's right! Don't let anyone who can't prove that all four of the grandparents and both parents were born and lived all of their lives in sight of the goldie fish near the club :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by Troy.McClure
I think that as Corkonians, we want a team full of Cork born & bread players, or at the very least, Munster players, ALA Barcelona and Catalan players.
Fair point, it does hurt, but I still can't blame the guy for doing it. With another manager I might feel differently though.Quote:
Originally posted by Troy.McClure
I think that as Corkonians, we want a team full of Cork born & bread players, or at the very least, Munster players, ALA Barcelona and Catalan players. It really hurts us when one of our players joins another team, but especially a Dublin one, hence Morley has never been fully forgiven by some fans at the X. This is also the reason why Jimmy Mulligan hasnt been fully accepted with Cork yet, even though he's been here 2 years now. Olli€ was an 'honorary' Cork Man, thats why it hurts so bad that he went to $hel$ of all clubs. :(
Being a $hel$ fan your bound to take O££LIE's side considering he chose ye over us. I feel he should have shown more loyalty to the people of Cork who accepted him as one of our own.Quote:
Originally posted by Shelsman
What are you saying? If an employer offered you a better job with better pay would you turn it down?
Do you think that once a player has lined out for Cork City that he is not entitled to play for any other team? What about all the players who left their clubs to sign for Cork City?
Yeah, but Liam Murphy has consistently shown that he is loyal only to his mates in the team and has shafted a number of loyal city servants out of the club for it- Ollie can't be blamed for wanting out.Quote:
Originally posted by COLM
I feel he should have shown more loyalty to the people of Cork who accepted him as one of our own.
LOL! No in fairness Jim he has a point, at least in as much that a large number of City fans do feel like that. Personally I don't give a rats ass where a city player is from once he gives 100%. There is that kind of cork "us against the world" attitude, particularly with regard to Dublin which may be many people's motivation in wanting Cork players- but you only have to look at the likes of Dave Hill, Kelvin Flanagan or Noel Mooney to show that adopted Corkmen are every bit as good as true corkonians.Quote:
Originally posted by Jim Smith
That's right! Don't let anyone who can't prove that all four of the grandparents and both parents were born and lived all of their lives in sight of the goldie fish near the club :rolleyes:
I agree, he's shafted Kelvin, Herrick, Tynan and plenty more. He has no redeeming features as a manager.Quote:
Originally posted by Éanna
Yeah, but Liam Murphy has consistently shown that he is loyal only to his mates in the team and has shafted a number of loyal city servants out of the club for it
Well, I might be one of his biggest (certainly most vocal :D ) Critics, but he does have some qualities- he does seem to work well with young players and have an eye for talent- e.g. O'Grady. That said, his deficits far outweigh either of those qualities.Quote:
Originally posted by COLM
He has no redeeming features as a manager.
O'Grady was known as a good player for quite some time. The only surprising thing was that he wasn't signed by a good club sooner.Quote:
Originally posted by Éanna
Well, I might be one of his biggest (certainly most vocal :D ) Critics, but he does have some qualities- he does seem to work well with young players and have an eye for talent- e.g. O'Grady. That said, his deficits far outweigh either of those qualities.
What exactly is your opinion of the guy?
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Originally posted by Shelsman
O'Grady was known as a good player for quite some time. The only surprising thing was that he wasn't signed by a good club sooner.
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Originally posted by Shelsman
I've been along to Turners cross about 10 times this season if you must know, so I'm not judging him on one appearance. The other City players are so crap they just make him look good.
He was an exciting young player with Sligo but has been dragged down through the ineptitude of the Cork City team.
Its not the team who are inept its the manager. Your views on O'Grady seem to be conflicting, basically it boils down to whether you think he's a good player or a bad player?Quote:
Originally posted by Shelsman
He was an exciting young player with Sligo but has been dragged down through the ineptitude of the Cork City team.
Thats percisely why he should step down as first team manager and concentrate on the youths, u17s etc. I cant see it happening though- moneys much better with the first team!!!Quote:
Originally posted by Éanna
he does have some qualities- he does seem to work well with young players
You don't become a good or a bad player- you play well or badly.Quote:
Originally posted by Shelsman
He was an exciting young player with Sligo but has been dragged down through the ineptitude of the Cork City team.
It is an added bonus if the player is from Cork, and indeed it might make it easier to convice them to play for City if they are a local, but it should not be a criteria that they look for in a player.
Ollie went on his way cause he was looking after his own. The board of CCFC certainly weren't going to look after him and he has given us much to remember. If he weren't a footballer and he was just moving on to a bigger better company where he's have more chance of success, nothing would be said.
Thats not what I said & you know it! I give my full support to Jimmy Muligan, and indeed every player that puts on a City shirt, but it is an added bonus if they are actually from the Cork region. I have always given 100% support to City players as individuals, no matter where they are from, while they are with the club. I have never shouted "Get the bald gnome off" like some people I have, and I was one of the few people to give Ollie a standing ovation when he was taken off at the Monaghan game. However, I feel that I owe nothing to players that are playing against City, especially ones who walk away from the Cross after prommising "I could never play for another Irish club" and then go to one of our biggest rivals when things start to get tough.Quote:
Originally posted by Jim Smith
That's right! Don't let anyone who can't prove that all four of the grandparents and both parents were born and lived all of their lives in sight of the goldie fish near the club :rolleyes:
Some people have said (AFIK) that Ollie was in that "Gang of 5" crap and have given a huge amount of cr@p to some players (especially Jonny C) yet Ollie is not disloyal. This hyprocracy really pi$$€s me off, especially when people say that Ollie left the club and Gunther was the main reason for it. WHEN DID HE EVER SAY THAT??? He left because he didnt get the money he wanted, he has even publically said this! Jonny C was probably the most loyal City player ever. He wanted to retire last year, but the club asked him to stay, so he did. But what does he get from some 'fans' when he retires? A sarcastic chear and a big :mad: when he retires instead of the credit (where credit is due) that he deserves.
Sorry for going off topic a bit: Rant over and out
...I might have been a bit harsh - it my age - but your orginal post was a bit on the parochial side :p
Its great to see a club brining on young local talent but if we are to become professional we cannot be inward looking and rely on loyality to Cork/Munster. We should be striving to make CCFC the best career move a player playing in Ireland can make. This requires more than just offering more money to a player. It needs success which can only come from a full-time professional setup both on and off the pitch.
I never said anything to the contraryQuote:
Originally posted by Jim Smith
Its great to see a club brining on young local talent but if we are to become professional we cannot be inward looking and rely on loyality to Cork/Munster. We should be striving to make CCFC the best career move a player playing in Ireland can make. This requires more than just offering more money to a player. It needs success which can only come from a full-time professional setup both on and off the pitch.
No he wasn't. Definitely not.Quote:
Originally posted by Troy.McClure
Some people have said (AFIK) that Ollie was in that "Gang of 5" crap
Please explain why this is not insular and how you will attract non-Corkonians with this attitude :confused:Quote:
Originally posted by Troy.McClure
I think that as Corkonians, we want a team full of Cork born & bread players, or at the very least, Munster players, ALA Barcelona and Catalan players.
Every team loves having local/home grown players- thats a fact. But it shouldn't be a requirement to be born in the People's Republic to play for City.
OK, O'Grady is a good player, not a great one and definitely not one of the best in the League, which is why I was saying that he shouldn't be in the Eircom League squad. As far as I can remember I never said that he was a BAD player.Quote:
Originally posted by COLM
Its not the team who are inept its the manager. Your views on O'Grady seem to be conflicting, basically it boils down to whether you think he's a good player or a bad player?
If Ollie said this I can understand some fans being a bit annoyed ( but I don't condone abusing the player ). Havign that said, if things have gone really sour at the X then I don't blame him for leaving, especially if he's going to a full-time club.Quote:
Originally posted by Troy.McClure
"I could never play for another Irish club"
A bit???Quote:
Originally posted by Shelsman
a bit annoyed
Look, if there's 2 or 3 guys form Dublin in the squad/team because of their exceptional quality, I have no problem. Id love if Glen Crowe came down to the X and started knocking them in for us, however I wouldnt relish the prospect of going out each week and watching a bunch of Jackeen rejects, who will just feck off and follow their manager if he goes to another club (ala Longford & Leicster). Im not saying that all 25 players in the squad must be able to sing De Banks since the age of 5, but if the choice came down to picking 1 of 2 players of equal ability, and 1 was from Cork, and the other wasnt, Id rather the one from Cork. But saying that, just because you are from Cork doesnt mean that you should get the place infront of the other one. The players should always work for their place in the team. Id rather a team of Jonny C's than Steve Gaughn'sQuote:
Originally posted by Jim Smith
Please explain why this is not insular and how you will attract non-Corkonians with this attitude :confused:
i must admit when the Hibs thing didnt materialise i remembered him saying that in the Papers and thought he'd stay put......but alas!