In Man United's squad for their game against Leeds tonight.
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In Man United's squad for their game against Leeds tonight.
what about william? Michael is the irish one right?
Yes, the next generation of Keane.
Is he a nosey neighbour?
William is his English brother
Yes William is his English twin brother! He's in the squad too. I've seen Michael Keane in United Reserve/Youth games a few times. He didn't stand out greatly but must be doing something right.
On the bench
http://i55.tinypic.com/whbg4k.png
Weird that two brothers would declare for two different countries, especially twins...
Not necessarily, especially if they're identical twins sometimes they will do just about anything to get something that sets them apart. Deep down they probably do have the same allegiance at heart. Imagine the nightmare a commentator would have if these two and Fabio and Rafael were ever in the same 11.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
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Commentators wet dream.Quote:
Originally Posted by theworm2345
Are you a twin wormie?! :)
It's weird enough with brothers playing for different countries but twins is even stranger. I think there was a quote where Michael couldn't get his head round the fact that Will doesn't feel Irish.
Nope, I've just known a few who tried everything to be different from each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Brothers playing for different countries isn’t as unusual as one might expect, most recently there has been Christian Vieri (Italy) and his brother Max (Australia), Tim Cahill (Australia) and brother Chris (Samoa), Steve Mandanda (France) and Parfait (DR Congo), José Luís Vidigal (Portugal) and Lito (Angola), Joseph Kizito (Uganda) and brother Manfred (Rwanda), and closer to home Joe and Steve Gallen (Ireland u21) and their brother Kevin (England u21). The 2010 World Cup also saw Germany’s Jerome Boateng and Ghana’s Kevin-Prince Boateng take to the pitch to face each other in a group game.
Jon Nurse (Dagenham and Redbridge) plays for Barbados while his brother Chris Nurse (U.S. minor leagues) plays for Guyana. The two actually played against each other two weeks ago in a World Cup Qualifier.Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
Thanks for quoting me without the link ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
I think this has officially surpassed "Worm talks about his upcoming College exams" as the most boring thread in the history of Footie, if not the whole internet. Did Cahills brother REALLY play for Samoa? Come on now no Fing chance Jo played for Uganda whist Manfred played for Rwanda!
"POSH mentions try with Bi Lesbians" was a close second though in fairness it excited me. And of course, it was a moment, not a thread.
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They're not identical.Quote:
Originally Posted by theworm2345
their father is from dublin - both played gaelic in manchester in their youth until united made them stop - michael has more of a chance of making the breakthrough at united than Will
really? what makes you say that? William Keane is generally touted as a future England striker.
Only thing Michael has going for him over William is his position in that it's easier for defenders to come through at United. William is the better footballer from what I've seen of them but there's always going to be a hell of a lot of competition up front at a club like Utd.
After all that, did he actually come on to play ?
I didn't say they were.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longfordian
That's fine then. Good!Quote:
Originally Posted by theworm2345
Well playing for England doesn't guarantee you'll make it at United. Ask Kieran Richardson. I'd say the competition up front for United is a lot tougher than it is in defence. Of the current strikers, only Welbeck is a product of the youth system, while a handful of defenders came through the academy.
According to YBIG he's declared for England.
Sean McGinty supposedly on his way too........I actually got wind of this a few weeks ago but the poster on YBIG has also stated this
It's in today's Star.
Pity.....does that article mention McGinty. In surprised at him but as I said I heard that during the summer that he wanted to declare for England.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
We seem to be losing out on a lot of players at the moment
yeah it's a comment from Doolin. Saying that he couldn't include McGinty in his squad just to try and dissuade him from switching. mentions he's on the standby list,
Unreal.
Mc Ginty is a huge loss. Highly thought of by the FAI and Man Utd.
Definitely going to be a future star but it looks as if it'll be with the 3 Lions
Massive kick in the teeth
I suppose we're beginning to get a taste of what NI are going through by losing these players who have been developed at international level by us.
McGinty, Keane, Rodgers, Lowry are the main ones I can think of of note who would have had a longterm future with us. You could add Gorman as well.
There's also a campaign to get Adam Barton an England call up.....can he still do a runner?
very disappointing. good luck in their future club careers.
I heard that as good a player as McGinty is,the players and management had real issues with his attitude to training and playing for Ireland. Exactly what we don't need. Bullet dodged I'd say.Quote:
Originally Posted by boovidge
The senior squad really need to qualify for a few tournaments IMO. None of these lads would hop then.
These two guys were born in England though right? Imagine if they feel a bigger affinity for England, they'd probably stick with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapAPony
Though be interested to see if they don't make it and reconsider in 5-10 years
Hands off our kids England! Stop the poaching! They've cost us millions in lucozade.. etc. etc.
I think this kind of international toing and froing is to be expected from players with dual eligibility, not least at that level when potential has yet to be capped. (No pun intended) Wasn't it just recently that a family member/friend of Jack Grealish tentatively nailed his colours to the Irish mast 'for now'? I haven't been aware of the issue long enough to know whether this kind of thing is more prevalent these days or not. Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if these guys do eventually play for Ireland again, albeit after having their England ambitions adjusted variously.
He'll have to do more than run about to justify that kind of campaign.Quote:
Originally Posted by greendeiseboy
Completely being lazy here as Im sure its been covered in numerous threads but when the does the 'switch association' rule kick in? Is this counted as one switch and therefore they couldnt switch back even if they wanted to at a later stage in their careers (i.e if they dont make the big time with the 3 lions)?
Just read the article and while we've definitely lost Keane, there's nothing in the article to suggest McGinty is going.
He hasnt being picked as Doolin reckons he has sufficient cover at the back.
And as Doolin said just because a player is not picked dosent mean that they're going to get the hump and declare for someone else.
Just wait and see what happens if he does get a call up
Anyone definitively know FIFA's rules on changing nationalities? I thought you could only change once and if you hadn't played a senior competitive match. However, these two confuse me:
Zahavi has played for three teams at underage level and may change back to USA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Zahavi
Motta played competitively for Brazil but was allowed to change to Italy aged 28
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiago_Motta
Anything goes?