If Bohemians did a BATE/Famagusta.....

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22/04/2009, 9:41 AM
irishultra

If Bohemians did a BATE/Famagusta.....

how do you think it would change the make up of the league? would it lead to a gap widening between Bohs and the rest especially in this economic climate?
22/04/2009, 9:49 AM
LeixlipRed

They might just break even more like.
22/04/2009, 9:52 AM
irishultra

thats what i was thinking.
22/04/2009, 10:01 AM
Mr A

I think it's quite clear that Bohs WILL do a BATE/Famagusta.

After all, it says they're going to increase their European activities in their accounts, so it must be true.
22/04/2009, 10:11 AM
Dyl10

A better question is, what happens if Bohs don't do a BATE/Famagusta?
22/04/2009, 10:13 AM
Mr A

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Originally Posted by Dyl10

A better question is, what happens if Bohs don't do a BATE/Famagusta?

No it isn't. You clearly haven't read their accounts.

Or at least the bit where it says that they're going to expand their European activities.
22/04/2009, 10:18 AM
WoodquayBoy

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Originally Posted by Mr A

No it isn't. You clearly haven't read their accounts.

Or at least the bit where it says that they're going to expand their European activities.

That could just mean they are going on a foreign holiday this year, or are introducing a Mediterranean diet
22/04/2009, 10:22 AM
A face

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Originally Posted by irishultra

how do you think it would change the make up of the league? would it lead to a gap widening between Bohs and the rest especially in this economic climate?

What does 'doing a BATE/Famagusta' mean?
22/04/2009, 10:23 AM
Hibs4Ever

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Originally Posted by A face

What does 'doing a BATE/Famagusta' mean?

I assume CL group stages
22/04/2009, 10:32 AM
placid casual

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Originally Posted by Dyl10

A better question is, what happens if Bohs don't do a BATE/Famagusta?

and an even better questions is...
what happens if bohs fans dont get their heads outta their holes??:eek::rolleyes:
22/04/2009, 12:58 PM
passerrby

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Originally Posted by Dyl10

A better question is, what happens if Bohs don't do a BATE/Famagusta?

a much better question is whats a BATE/famagusta.
22/04/2009, 1:12 PM
SunderlandBohs

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Originally Posted by irishultra

how do you think it would change the make up of the league? would it lead to a gap widening between Bohs and the rest especially in this economic climate?

I'd be glad if we did it just to clear our debts nevermind widening the gap.:o
22/04/2009, 1:26 PM
Guts&Glory

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Originally Posted by Mr A

No it isn't. You clearly haven't read their accounts.

Or at least the bit where it says that they're going to expand their European activities.

......and clearly you havent read the part in their accounts where it outlines the debt of the club and the restructuring of the clubs finances that had to be done.

Just because they say they are going to expand their European activities does not equate to a given that they will be successful in qualifying for the group stages of the CL.

Let them fire ahead trying to get to the CL Group Stages, rack up more debt and run themselvs out of business altogether.

The fact that they see their perceived out of their current plight of financial trouble is to plough more money into a black hole should surely ring alarm bells for their supporters.

If anyone points to the value of the ground that no one wants to buy as a bankable asset they are totally deluding themselves.

In case ye havent noticed there is a fair number of spare apartments, houses and shopping centre units available without any prospective buyer thinking Dalymount would be a runner for such a development.

Oh that and most of the developers are now technically bankrupt.

As placid casual says about Bohs fans having their heads up their arses (and anyone lese who thniks they have a point) - unless they take them outta there the club will be gone sooner than they think.
22/04/2009, 1:29 PM
Sam_Heggy

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Originally Posted by Mr A

I think it's quite clear that Bohs WILL do a BATE/Famagusta.

After all, it says they're going to increase their European activities in their accounts, so it must be true.

Aidan, did you just miss the Urban Myth thread.
22/04/2009, 2:00 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by Guts&Glory

......and clearly you havent read the part in their accounts where it outlines the debt of the club and the restructuring of the clubs finances that had to be done.

:eek: WOW

Why so negative? What have Bohs board done wriong in the past 2/3 years that could possibly lead you to believe that they'd be wrong about this?
22/04/2009, 2:04 PM
Guitd

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Originally Posted by Dyl10

A better question is, what happens if Bohs don't do a BATE/Famagusta?

the do what other clubs have done last year ---go into examinership and pay everyone the owe 6c in the euro and everything will be ok again:):D:D
22/04/2009, 2:13 PM
Mr A

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Originally Posted by Guts&Glory

......and clearly you havent read the part in their accounts where it outlines the debt of the club and the restructuring of the clubs finances that had to be done.

Ack. Now you're just being cynical.
22/04/2009, 2:24 PM
Larry 'da' Wyse

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Originally Posted by Mr A

I think it's quite clear that Bohs WILL do a BATE/Famagusta.

After all, it says they're going to increase their European activities in their accounts, so it must be true.

Maybe the accounts were referring to the �100,000 recently received from Wolves. :D
22/04/2009, 2:36 PM
p�l-dcfc

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Originally Posted by Larry 'da' Wyse

Maybe the accounts were referring to the �100,000 recently received from Wolves. :D

So what does that leave the debt at?
22/04/2009, 2:51 PM
Dodge

∞ -100,000 I believe
22/04/2009, 2:53 PM
SkStu

debts r bad, mmmkay?
22/04/2009, 3:15 PM
pineapple stu

Is Mr A just thanking everyone on this thread?!
22/04/2009, 3:15 PM
brianw82

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Originally Posted by SkStu

debts r bad, mmmkay?

Not necessarily. If it's a reasonable amount, and the club's finances can handle the repayments, there's no problem with being forever in debt.

However, that's rarely ever the case. The debt just keeps on piling up.
22/04/2009, 3:30 PM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by placid casual

and an even better questions is...
what happens if bohs fans dont get their heads outta each other's holes??:eek::rolleyes:

Isn't that what doing a BATE involves......?
22/04/2009, 3:33 PM
pineapple stu

Can I have a button to thank someone for thanking me?
22/04/2009, 3:34 PM
SkStu

your work is certainly underappreciated Stu.
22/04/2009, 3:36 PM
redobit

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Originally Posted by Guts&Glory

Let them fire ahead trying to get to the CL Group Stages, rack up more debt and run themselvs out of business altogether.

The fact that they see their perceived out of their current plight of financial trouble is to plough more money into a black hole should surely ring alarm bells for their supporters.

Exactly, the worst thing that they could do at this stage is throw good money after bad.

When you are sick you got to take your medicine sooner or later.
22/04/2009, 3:40 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by redobit

Exactly, the worst thing that they could do at this stage is throw good money after bad.

When you are sick you got to take your medicine sooner or later.

What are you a woman? Its been scientifically proven, by MEN, that ignoring pretty much all diseases causes them to go away sooner or later
22/04/2009, 3:40 PM
Dalymountrower

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Originally Posted by brianw82

Not necessarily. If it's a reasonable amount, and the club's finances can handle the repayments, there's no problem with being forever in debt.

However, that's rarely ever the case. The debt just keeps on piling up.

Whats a sensible post doing in this wind-up thread? We really need to aim for the debt-free/ european success-free model thats a logical consequence of the FAI`s restraint of trade 65% "cap".

Any club trying to emulate Bate would need to hook up with the Russian Mafia for joint money laundering ventures as they did . It didn`t work for Shels though when they cosied up to the Monk and his associates some years ago.
22/04/2009, 3:43 PM
Longfordian

Hmm so you're saying Shels were involved in money laundering some years ago?. Interesting theory, not sure I'd put it up here though.
22/04/2009, 3:54 PM
Dalymountrower

No not Shelbourne f.c. as is presently constituted, the reference is to a former (now deceased) Director, who formerly had complete control over the club and who engaged in highly questionable activities with individuals known to the Gardai. These activities necessitated an ongoing presence at the time
in the Tolka bars of Special Branch and Criminal Assets Bureau officers.

No suggestion that anyone now associated with the club engaged then or since in those questionable activities.
22/04/2009, 3:58 PM
SunderlandBohs

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Originally Posted by Dalymountrower

It didn`t work for Shels though when they cosied up to the Monk and his associates some years ago.

Wasn't The Monk mean't to involved with us as well? When Roddy collins was around?
22/04/2009, 4:00 PM
SkStu

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Originally Posted by Dalymountrower

No not Shelbourne f.c. as is presently constituted, the reference is to a former (now deceased) Director, who formerly had complete control over the club and who engaged in highly questionable activities with individuals known to the Gardai. These activities necessitated an ongoing presence at the time
in the Tolka bars of Special Branch and Criminal Assets Bureau officers.

No suggestion that anyone now associated with the club engaged then or since in those questionable activities.

dont worry, you cant defame the deceased. It was Ollie Byrne, convicted cigarette smuggler.
22/04/2009, 4:07 PM
Longfordian

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dalymountrower

No not Shelbourne f.c. as is presently constituted, the reference is to a former (now deceased) Director, who formerly had complete control over the club and who engaged in highly questionable activities with individuals known to the Gardai. These activities necessitated an ongoing presence at the time
in the Tolka bars of Special Branch and Criminal Assets Bureau officers.

No suggestion that anyone now associated with the club engaged then or since in those questionable activities.

Yeah I had heard stories about how he'd borrowed money from shady characters over the years to be paid back in some vague shape or form in the future. Then when he took ill there were a few looking to know where they stood. So go the stories anyway.
22/04/2009, 4:27 PM
passerrby

if ollie shafted some dublins crim then he can only go up in my estimation ..taken from currupt criminals and given to the .........criminally insane.
22/04/2009, 6:29 PM
irishultra

if celtic were playing manchester united and bohemians were playing AEK athens at dalymount on the same nigh, which game do ya suppose RTE would show?
22/04/2009, 6:32 PM
Umberside

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Originally Posted by irishultra

if celtic were playing manchester united and bohemians were playing AEK athens at dalymount on the same nigh, which game do ya suppose RTE would show?

Celtic v Man Utd unless the FAI put pressure on them to show the Bohs game.
22/04/2009, 6:36 PM
p�l-dcfc

Quote:

Originally Posted by irishultra

if celtic were playing manchester united and bohemians were playing AEK athens at dalymount on the same nigh, which game do ya suppose RTE would show?

Definitely the Bohs game.

I think they would love to show the Celtic v Manchester United one, but they would be under far to much pressure to have that sort of brass neck.
22/04/2009, 6:37 PM
BohDiddley

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Originally Posted by irishultra

if celtic were playing manchester united and bohemians were playing AEK athens at dalymount on the same nigh

That'd be some gate all right.
22/04/2009, 6:40 PM
Umberside

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Originally Posted by BohDiddley

That'd be some gate all right.

If the match really was played, it would have to move to the RDS or even Lansdowne Road? Bohs would/could get an even bigger gate.

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