I'm sure all fans are pleased and respecful of Kilbane's determination to play for Ireland, despite his injury.
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I'm sure all fans are pleased and respecful of Kilbane's determination to play for Ireland, despite his injury.
Yes, yes we are. Thanks for starting a pointless new thread considering this sentiment has been expressed numerous times in other threads
is one supposed to trawl through all the other threads to see what has been discussed before before setting up a new thread? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by lionelhutz
Definitely. Well done true dedication to the cause. Hope it rubs off in areas close to Wigan as well.
Well I havent come across this topic on any other threads anyway. Has an Irishman ever worn one of these masks in a game before, cant think of one anyway.
Kilbane's commitment to the cause has never been in doubt. He'll always be remembered for it.
I love him :D
Please inform me of any enlightening new threads initiated by your good self, assuming the capacity is there in the first place to undertake what may be an onerous undertaking.Quote:
Originally Posted by lionelhutz
Kilbane has shown undoubted committment over the years and has always given the preverbial 137%. He also appears an all-round good egg to boot.
It strikes me that people trip over themselves to rightly acknowledge attributes that should be the bare minimum we require. Commitment and effort.
Again - I'm not begrudging Kilbane the praise, it's just a further confirmation of how far we'd drifted from some of our previous teams ethos.
Apologies lads, I meant to be sarcastic and humerous with that comment - obviously didn't work so well ;)
I admire KK for always giving his utmost but as wolfie stated, this really should be a minimum requirement. Was never a fan of his in terms of ability but at least he doesn't hide in games when the going gets tough
I know a few that should have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pauro 76
I think you mean to be ironic, sarcasm is when the intention is to mock or hurt or jest the other person.Quote:
Originally Posted by lionelhutz
Kevin Kilbane is a model pro. Can you imagine the impact a certain egg-headed boy wonder would have if he had Kevin’s dedication.
Certainly is a model Pro. I always gave him quite a bit of abuse in years gone by and questioned his inclusion many a time. I know wish we had 11 Kevin Kilbanes in our team. Its easy to forget at times that he has a daughter with downs syndrome. His committment is to be so commended. Thanks Kevin :D
isn't that Carsley?Quote:
Originally Posted by carloz
Is it true he has started every competitive match since 1999?
Carsley's son has DS too. I think Phil Neville has a kid with severe CP.
Did we ever really have it from everyone?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfie
Remember the much revered Davy Langan (and rightly so) well a few of his team-mates went missing when required as well. We've always had people prepared to die for the green jersey but there have been quite a few more whose commitment can be called into question at times.
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Originally Posted by Wolfie
It's because Kilbane's committment is such a rarity that it should be highlighted and not taken for granted
Its just I can recall a time were we had a higher concentration of players that exhibited these qualities on a regular basis.Quote:
Originally Posted by gspain
McCarthy, Moran, McGrath, Houghton, Townsend, Aldridge.............all of these players gave of their best.
Great player but he went missing on occasions too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfie
You also omitted some big names of the past. The same big names who in some cases could have doubled their caps totals if they weren't "injured" for many Internationals. OK mainly friendlies but some competitive games too.
Did Kevin Moran wear a mask once or was it just some crazy granny knot bandage Mick Byrne put on him.
Fair dues to Kilbane. If the mask is worn on his left side he'll have to work on that knock the ball around him and run the other side trick he uses.
'the cow' is what its called by Brazilians, when an Irish player does it its lashing the ball down the field.
all this talk about the "minimum" we should expect... belittling his efforts
it's bollicks, and i'd say hypocritical on alot of our parts... We're paid to work 40 hrs a week and the minimum expected of us is to work it yet who here does.. the posts on here are testament to that..... mimimum expected??:rolleyes:
the guy has a work ethic and a level of commitment to be admired whether it is in football or not... he doesn't represent ireland for you or me... if he did he'd have given in to some of the clowns that follow us.. he represents ireland and himself.. he's an example and should be put on a pedestal.. ye didn't see him bitchin and whingin on the late late show blaming fans and media when he got more of a raw deal off both than any other player.. he just gets his head down and gets stuck in. lesser people would and have retired...
kevin kilbane...... we salute you
He will go down in the history books as one of the greatest servents to irish football. Zinedine Kilbane deserves all the praise he gets. For a man who was born across the water to have such pride and want for the green jersey is inspirational. Take note Stephen Ireland
100% agree with the praise for Killer. As he mentioned himself in the Sunday Indo this week he had a very shaky debut in Iceland all those years ago. However he has become a credit to the country and represents perfectly the second-generation Irish who choose to play for Ireland along with people like Grealish, Hughton, McCarthy, Houghton, Phelan, Breen and others who were never less than 100% committed. He may not have been that clever on the ball but even Phil Babb stated when he was 16 (in a Millwall programme) that his ambition was to captain Ireland.
Players like Townsend, Aldridge, Cascarino and many others didn't quite have the same direct relationship (grandparents & adoptive grandparents) but nobody can question the commitment they gave as well.
Of the current squad I think Shay, Duffer and Robbie deserve credit alongside Killer. They have always turned up and played, even in friendlies, - I'm giving Robbie the benefit of the doubt for the stag party because Trapp said it was ok ;-)
couldnt put it better myself. I love the guy, hes an absolute hero.Quote:
Originally Posted by dr_peepee
And Gary Breen who went to school on June 13th 1988 wearing an Ireland top in London.Quote:
Originally Posted by EastTerracer
Or listen to him moaning about training pitches or lack of footballs!Quote:
Originally Posted by dr_peepee
Not like Jamie Carragher:
In typically blunt Scouse style, the Liverpool stalwart reveals his feelings about turning out for the national side.
“I was never in love with playing for England,” he says. “I confess: defeats wearing an England shirt never hurt me in the same way as losing with my club.”
Recalling his penalty miss in the World Cup quarter-final against Portugal in 2006, he notes: “I would rather miss for England than LFC.”
As for the end of his England career: “By the time I stopped I felt a huge weight lifting.”
:rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by OwlsFan
I hope England continue to play losers like that for the next 100 years!!!! :D
Zinedine Kilbane determination to play against Georgia shows that footballers aren't all greedy, ego driven monsters. Good on him. I wish the profession had more like him.
He should've played for us, might have felt diferently, pretty sure he qualified! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Didn't know that...classic!Quote:
Originally Posted by gspain
I wore mine and a massive smile walking through the brit check point after the match as the b######s pulled every car into the search bay.
Let Killer be our Ray Houghton for Saturday. The man's a legend, a true soldier and an example to some of the modern money-driven prima-donnas we see poluting the game today.
Lets hope he can live up to all this praise (unusual on here) and have a good game come Saturday.Quote:
Originally Posted by spin
It was me had the temerity to state that commitment and determination were the bare minimum required. Both are essential to any successful team but there has to be more.Quote:
Originally Posted by dr_peepee
I was most certainly not belittling Kilbanes efforts - in fact I went out of my way to clarify that he was deserving of the praise he was receiving.
My point was that, while such qualities should be lauded, that and that alone is not enough. Will anyone be happy with losses against Georgia and Montenegro but will console themselves that we did our best?
I'm not singling out Kilbane - its a general point that I put forward as Devils Advocate.
Commitment and determination are possibly just as important as ability.Roy Keane did not have the skill/ability of a lot of players.It was his other qualities hat made him a top player.
I think one of his best was his ability to continue to learn.I believe that he was not a good passer of the ball when he first went to utd but he worked on it and turned out to be one of utds greatest ever players.
Commitment? Are you serious?Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
His commitment to Ireland was at times questionable.Quote:
Originally Posted by smasher
His commitment to the game of football I dont think is/was in question
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Originally Posted by Wolfie
Sorry man... I was drunk when I wrote that... Got all higher moral stance about it!!!:o
is kilbane in the ra?!