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Lads I herd that the the GAA are thinking of giving back flower lodge back to the F.A.I If the F.A.I. will give them Bishopstown because they think it would be better for them if they could play out that way. They are finding it hard down in the lodge. I am only saying what I was told if its true that would be good for cork city we would have ur own ground that would be the job if it is true.
interesting
Even if it would happen, there is no guarantee that the FAI would help City out. Am I right in thinking they don't leave City train out in Bishopstown??
Niamh that is true in what you are saying so we will just have to see if there is anything to come out of this one.
Hard to believe that.
The county board have spent the guts of €1,000,000 on the lodge, and I can't see any economic sense in moving to Bishopstown. The amount of work they would need to do out there just to get a proper size pitch would take a year and a lot of money, never mind the lack of facilities.
It would be great to get the lodge back though but alas, dreams I'm afraid... :(
I think a move back to the Lodge would be bad for us at the moment.
We have a really good thing going now at The Cross. The ground is tight, intimidating, brilliant pitch ( the GAA Heads have made $**** of the old original pitch @ the Lodge ), and The Cross suits the size of crowds we are getting at the moment.
To move to the Lodge would be a step back.
We would loose our identity again, end up playing in a ground devoid of atmosphere - look at how poor the atmosphere is in the uncovered St Anne's end ( you need roofs overhead to create real noise )
Our current size crowds ( while far and away the biggest in the LoI ) would be lost in The Lodge and we'd look like $hell$, Rovers and the rest of the Dublin lot playing in half empty stadiums.
Finish the developments @ The Cross and stay.
while it'd be great to be in flower lodge from the point of view that it'd be a link to cork soccer from the pre-city era, i think our future is definitely at the cross. the club have put money into it and have further plans to improve it. and counting crow is right about simple things like the size of crowds that we get, the atmosphere that we generate.
also, there's no guarentee that the FAI would go for it, i can't see it being a straight swap, the GAA have put too much money into the lodge just to leave it go and have to start again in bishopstown. they'd have to look for compensation.
Could this have a link with the Cork Celtic thing I posted a couple of months back!
To refresh your memories, rumour has it that a new club called Cork Celtic will enter the EL!
OK I know I'm a scum jackeen ******* but surely Celtic would want to play at the Cross while the team in green and white would play at the Lodge ?Quote:
Originally posted by Pablo Escobar
Could this have a link with the Cork Celtic thing I posted a couple of months back!
To refresh your memories, rumour has it that a new club called Cork Celtic will enter the EL!
It might appear that way, but times have very much changed!Quote:
Originally posted by TommyT
OK I know I'm a scum jackeen ******* but surely Celtic would want to play at the Cross while the team in green and white would play at the Lodge ?
To be honest it makes a lot of sense!
I was thinking of a first 11 for Celtic:
GK-Sheamus O'Donnell
RB-?
CB-John Andrews
CB-?
LB-Gareth Cronin
RM-Dave Moore
CM-Kelvin Flanagan
CM-Mark Clifford
LM-Tony Tynan
ST-Sean Francis
ST-Stephen O'Flynn
All pretty much local and retrievable!
And capable of holding their own in the Premier Div.
Ok I know I'm jumping into this discussion a bit late (plus i'm kinda ignoring the above) but there isn't a hope in hell that the GAA:D would ever get rid of Páirc Uí Rinn. They spent so much on it with the floodlights and the stands. Its very conveniant for league matches and stuff so sorry. Plus its call Páirc Uí Rinn after one of Cork's greatest sons..... it hasn't being Flower Lodge for a long long time....Quote:
Originally posted by ian
Lads I herd that the the GAA are thinking of giving back flower lodge back to the F.A.I If the F.A.I. will give them Bishopstown because they think it would be better for them if they could play out that way. They are finding it hard down in the lodge. I am only saying what I was told if its true that would be good for cork city we would have ur own ground that would be the job if it is true.
Quote:
Originally posted by ian
Lads I herd that the the GAA are thinking of giving back flower lodge back to the F.A.I If the F.A.I. will give them Bishopstown
if, as Ian's post suggests it's the GAA that are making the running on this then it's unlikely that a force behind a second club in cork would be pulling the strings.Quote:
Originally posted by Pablo Escobar
Could this have a link with the Cork Celtic thing I posted a couple of months back!
surely a Cork Celtic would be more likely to come about by the amalgamation of the stronger northside MSL clubs, and lead to separate northside/southside clubs. in any case, given that the highest crowds city are getting are 6,000, i don't think there's enough interest in the EL in cork to support a second team.
Personally I would love to see a second Cork EL team, provided it didn't interfere with our crowds.
I reckon the northside could support it but my only worry would be that it might turn into a roversesque club with a hooligan problem.
What's all this bullsh*t about a new club could be a "Northside" club?
Is there an inference that City is a "southside" club?
City are neither North nor south side, they are ALL Cork.
All ye scummy southsiders should remember when there was a southside club in Cork, called Celtic, and they were fcuking useless !!!!;) :D
You could ask your good friend and hero Kilcoyne to help you out. He still has his FAI blazer and he's got a great track record when it come to LOI grounds.Quote:
Originally posted by niamh
Even if it would happen, there is no guarantee that the FAI would help City out. Am I right in thinking they don't leave City train out in Bishopstown??
KOH
yeah yeah yeah WAR
Keep Off Heroin mate :D
Awww, the little junkie is upset.....;)Quote:
Originally posted by WeAreRovers
You could ask your good friend and hero Kilcoyne to help you out. He still has his FAI blazer and he's got a great track record when it come to LOI grounds.
You never know, ye might actually win some games in the First divison....:D
This is the second time today I've read this crap about the Northside having "their own" team. There are lots of City fans like myself who hail from the Northside of the City and City is our Team. It aint called Cork Southside of the City?? As Patsh pointed out, the club is for all of Cork, not just the southside, not even just the city, but for all in Cork County (Queenstown omitted obv.)Quote:
Originally posted by CCFC till I die
Personally I would love to see a second Cork EL team, provided it didn't interfere with our crowds.
I reckon the northside could support it but my only worry would be that it might turn into a roversesque club with a hooligan problem.
And what do you mean "it might turn into a roversesque club with a hooligan element" Is this implying that us Norries are all scum ??? You have some fucin nerve there boy. Im not gonna go any further....it doesnt deserve my time........
i think its pretty clear that city draw support from both sides of the river and, i would suggest, a fair deal of fans from outside the city walls too (myself included). any suggestion of city as a southside team is pretty ridiculous.
of course, that would change if there was a second club (playing on the northside). while the concept of a second cork team is appealing for various reasons, i just don't think LoI football is strong enough to support it right now. as a previous post said, a second team would definitely hit city attendances, and i think its much better to have one club getting 4000+ crowds than two getting 1500-2000. and we always have queenstown anyway like, if you're a malcontent!
it appears to have been me who inadvertantly started the northside thing, i wasn't implying that city are better supported in the southside or that City is anything other than a city wide club.
it's just that when this second team in cork idea was being bandied about, people assumed that rockmount and well organised clubs close to them would be the obvious starting point for a new club as they already have facilities and pockets of support and a player base in place.