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The IFA finally voted last night to lift their own 'Rule 42' - the sectarian ban on Sunday football that pandered to the religious interests of a minority of protestant faiths.
Shame it took them 60 years to catch up with the rest of the world, but at least it's happened.
Delighted that this "rule of exclusion" has been removed.
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Long overdue. :cool:
A welcome and long overdue move, if for no other reason than that it has been increasingly "more honoured in the breech than the observance", with the Senior International team(!), senior Irish League Clubs, junior Leagues etc all playing on Sundays in recent years.
In fact, afaik, any NI footballer who played anywhere in the world on a Sunday (e.g. English Premiership) was technically ineligible for selection by the IFA for any of its representative teams!
Which means we had the ridiculous situation whereby the overwhelming majority who opposed the ban were castigated for its still being in the Rule Book, whilst the tiny minority who supported it weren't even seeing it enforced!
And how richly ironic that the "Never On a Sunday Brigade" were supporting a ban which is now only imposed in one other place in the whole of Europe - the Vatican!
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...003460,00.html
Will anyone play regularly on a Sunday?
IL teams? I doubt it.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
The fact is that the opportunity/choice to do so is now available.
Maybe some of the Junior Leagues will move games to a Sunday, thus allowing many who hitherto have been unable to attend IL games on a Saturday to do so?
UTV carried a report last night suggesting Donegal Celtic and Newry Town were looking at a possible fixture on Jan 27 2008.
Anyone else feel this is related to a possible All Ireland League?
Errr..., no !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by MyTown
Why would it be ?? :confused:
It was just a long overdue change that the IFA tried to make a year ago as well. You're putting 1 and 1 together and getting the twelve times table.
I suspect the IFA are against an all-island league anyway, as it would most probably erode their posiiton and possibly begin their demise.
Frankly, no.Quote:
UTV carried a report last night suggesting Donegal Celtic and Newry Town were looking at a possible fixture on Jan 27 2008.
Anyone else feel this is related to a possible All Ireland League?
Which senior IL teams have played on a Sunday EG ?Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
Interestingly, the IL still has to give its approval to any proposed Sunday games. Why they bothered to cling onto that one last vestige of the old rule I just don't know. Even if they don't say 'no' they shouldn't have to be asked in the first place if they don't have to anoint games on any other weekday.
There's a decent publicity opportunity here for whichever IL team decides to host the first Sunday fixture. They'll get much more media coverage than they'd otherwise get, and it should add a few curious spectators onto the gate to be part of an 'historic' event.
I suspect first-up would be rthe likes of DC or Newry - i.e. not a team with a protestant support-base, or in an area where the Free P's might turn up to breathe fire and brimstone like they did when Ulster rugby did their first Sunday fixture about 2 years ago.
It looks like it is a difficult task to make any change the IFA constitution, it requires a 75% vote in favour in order for any proposal to be accepted.
It can be a very long climb from the usual 2/3 to achieve a 3/4 majority no matter what Association is involved
Cliftonville played an away Intertoto game on a Sunday, I think Ballymena did as well. I think the NI team played an exhibition on a Sunday too.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
Doesn't matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Even the GAA managed to let "crown forces" participate in their games and, shock horror, garrison games be played on their hallowed turf before the IFA stopped pandering to the whims of a minority within protestantism. They shot themselves in the foot by allowing themselves to be the last major sporting body on the island to modernise.
It just shows that there are still a significant number of dinosaurs involved in Northern Irish football ! Anyone who thinks that lot would vote for an all-island league any time soon are living on a different planet.
I know NI played in the US on a Sunday recently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
UEFA could've come down on the IFA if they had stopped an IL team playign an away Euro fixture on a Sunday. It was expected to be only a matter of time before FIFA 'had a word' with the IFA on the issue anyway, and they had the threat of court action from disgruntled individuals/clubs in the north hanging over their heads as well.
But there hasn't been a domestic fixture on a Sunday before, as far as I'm aware ?
The vote to bin the Sunday ban was 91 to 14 in favour.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
A "significant" majority.
I think you'll find that Rule (of exclusion) 42 is still, very much, in place.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
I agree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Not Brazil
But that still leaves 15% of the decision makers in the IFA being part of the 'never on a Sunday' brigade. Willing to let the views of a religious minority hold council over the sporting pursuits of the majority. Which is worrying.
Is it any wonder the likes of Belfast Celtic, Derry City, Lurgan Celtic etc have felt the need to raise issues re the IFA in the past, if even under current more favourable climate in the province a sizeable minority of the IFA are still stuck in the old days ?
For the record the GAA are no better, but I don't care much for them either.
Indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Not Brazil
And I think you'll find any proposal for soccer games on a Sunday in the north still need to meet the IFA's approval. So neither have been fully addressed.
I care not for the GAA anyway. My point was that even those dinosaurs made moves on their issues before the IFA did on it's.
The inescapable fact is that the religious dinasaurs were roundly defeated last night on the "never on a Sunday" issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
85% of the decision makers within the IFA told them their day is over.
That represents progression and a move forward.
That, IMO, is to be wholeheartedly welcomed.
It is long overdue that Sunday football has come to N i it was a ludicrous rule.It is my personal opinion that there will be an all ireland league of sorts in the not too distant future be it only a larger version of the setanta.The stumbling block to a proper all Ireland league would be the ifa and the fai would also be very much against it.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve