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15/11/2007, 12:53 AM
danonion

Israel vs Russia

I hate myself for this but I'm cheering Russia to the hilt
15/11/2007, 6:50 AM
Sligo Hornet

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Originally Posted by danonion

I hate myself for this but I'm cheering Russia to the hilt

Why hate yourself?:confused:
15/11/2007, 9:03 AM
drinkfeckarse

Not bothered one way or the other who gets out of that group.
15/11/2007, 9:10 AM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by danonion

I hate myself for this but I'm cheering Russia to the hilt

Are you Polish or something?

Can't see any reason why people would a) want Russia to lose b) want Israel to be succesful and c) want England to still have a chance?

I predict a draw
15/11/2007, 9:29 AM
Stuttgart88

I want Russia to win. I'd love to be able to enjoy Euro 2008 without the media overkill that goes with the English team in a competition finals.
15/11/2007, 9:32 AM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

I want Russia to win. I'd love to be able to enjoy Euro 2008 without the media overkill that goes with the English team in a competition finals.

Especially if the Scots get there, as there'll be someone to cheer anyway !
15/11/2007, 9:35 AM
Sligo Hornet

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Are you Polish or something?

Can't see any reason why people would a) want Russia to lose b) want Israel to be succesful and c) want England to still have a chance?

I predict a draw

That would be the best result....as it would mean England had to beat Croatia at Wembley, and then we could watch as they buckle under the pressure of thinking they are better than they really are;)
15/11/2007, 10:03 AM
OwlsFan

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

I want Russia to win. I'd love to be able to enjoy Euro 2008 without the media overkill that goes with the English team in a competition finals.

But in a way doesn't it make it more interesting when England are in it with all the hype etc and then the eventual failure. Would you hand on heart prefer to watch a game with England playing or Russia playing?
15/11/2007, 10:15 AM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by OwlsFan

But in a way doesn't it make it more interesting when England are in it with all the hype etc and then the eventual failure. Would you hand on heart prefer to watch a game with England playing or Russia playing?

The question should be who would you like to have a chance at winning the tournament, England or anybody else?
15/11/2007, 10:28 AM
Stuttgart88

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Originally Posted by OwlsFan

But in a way doesn't it make it more interesting when England are in it with all the hype etc and then the eventual failure. Would you hand on heart prefer to watch a game with England playing or Russia playing?

Hand on heart, Russia, just to avoid the massive amount of negative energy that builds up inside me when England play!

I also love watching eastern european teams play. Their technique is superb and their short passing and the angles they find fascinate me.

I love the finals of international tournaments and bar the hype and celebrity I honestly think England tend to contribute very little to them. Maybe Rooney in '04 and Owen in '98 but usually it's just attrition football with good quality set pieces.
15/11/2007, 10:33 AM
Lionel Ritchie

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Originally Posted by Sligo Hornet

That would be the best result....as it would mean England had to beat Croatia at Wembley, and then we could watch as they buckle under the pressure of thinking they are better than they really are;)

I don't see that happening. If England are given that lifeline I strongly suspect they will avail of it ...possibly with telling contributions from officials who fear they'll not work at that level again if the result isn't "right" and their performance comes under scrutiny. I wouldn't rule out five or six minutes of time added if England need a goal.

Though for now I'll watch as an amused neutral. I shall try to rise above my own post colonial psychosis if England manage (by default) to get back into this. I might not like the John Bullsh1ts that hang on to them but by and large I realy like the English* and think we've* a lot more in common with them than we ever like to admit.

Would be funny though to see a finals without them but with Scotland, and who knows maybe even our northern cousins, involved.

*Grand brush strokes being used I know.
15/11/2007, 10:39 AM
Sligo Hornet

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Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie

I don't see that happening. If England are given that lifeline I strongly suspect they will avail of it ...possibly with telling contributions from officials who fear they'll not work at that level again if the result isn't "right" and their performance comes under scrutiny. I wouldn't rule out five or six minutes of time added if England need a goal.

Very cynical Lionel........as if any such thing would happen today!;)......it's not ALL about money and politics:D
15/11/2007, 10:43 AM
Stuttgart88

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Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie

Iby and large I realy like the English* and think we've* a lot more in common with them than we ever like to admit.

*Grand brush strokes being used I know.

I concur, and fair play to you for risking derision here for saying so, but I just hate to see them do well in football. Some of it easily and logically explainable, some of it just pure churlishness on my part.
15/11/2007, 10:51 AM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie

I realy like the English* and think we've* a lot more in common with them than we ever like to admit

My favourite people in the world are the people with Brits Out tattoos wearing man utd jersies.
15/11/2007, 11:01 AM
TheBoss

Me personally, I prefer to see a tournament of the best nations in Europe, does that include England, yes it does, it makes the tournement much better in terms of quality teams in the competition.
15/11/2007, 11:08 AM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by TheBoss

Me personally, I prefer to see a tournament of the best nations in Europe, does that include England, yes it does, it makes the tournement much better in terms of quality teams in the competition.

The best teams always qualify. If England don't qualify from a relatively weak group, I don't think there's an arguement that they deserve to be there
15/11/2007, 11:09 AM
reder

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Originally Posted by Dodge

My favourite people in the world are the people with Brits Out tattoos wearing man utd jersies.

Even better than the 'No to foreign sports' Celtic wearing folks, Dodge? Surely not? A tournament without one or more of our neighbours or ourselves involved just aint the same.

I hope England and Scotland get through but I sense that neither will. I expect England to **** things up against Croatia after Israel get something against Russia. I just think Italy will be too strong for the Scots unfortunately.
15/11/2007, 11:12 AM
Dodge

Well you're from Liverpool aren't you? So its not really the same as "us" not wanting them to go through.
15/11/2007, 11:21 AM
RogerMilla

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Well you're from Liverpool aren't you? So its not really the same as "us" not wanting them to go through.

i think israel will get something off the russians but am more than happy to laugh if they dont.

also i think a tournament without england isnt the same , you can measure your life on where you were the day england went out of *( Insert tournament name here )
15/11/2007, 11:48 AM
DaveyCakes

Go Russia! Zha Rodina (I think)!

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