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IMO some of the media behaviour this week has been pathetic. Getting the hump just because they not told where the FAI secret Meeting was held. Obviously the FAI easy target but writing attack pieces just because they slighted is sad.
The FAI were for once 100% correct to have secret Meeting so Staunton not have to be humiliated in front of the media after leaving.
Tony O'Donoghue at least had the sense on RTE to tell Peter Collins that the media not the story.
The media deliver the message to the fans, that is their role, whether Delaney and co think so or not, this was a snub to the fans as well as the media.
Have the meeting in the FAI offices at 2pm. Can't see the need for the hotel roomQuote:
Originally Posted by pete
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Originally Posted by Schlooooomp
No it wasn't. There was a press conference afterwards to deal with the media who could then report to the fans , it was their own choice to go off on a wild goose chase around North Dublin to get the money shot of Stan. Delaney, **** that he is, played it like a politician. The media lost all respect with their riddiculous antics (sending Kermit down to the traning session, taxis to the FAI offices last week, we're not english ffs) and if they're going to be at that sort of ****e thay can't expect anything else then what they got. No doubt Delaney delayed the press conference until after RTE's CL covergae had finished so they couldn't bring it live and so the impact would be deaden somewhat as papers with early deadlines couldn't run it properly. That was a pain in the arse but anyone expecting anything different is very naive. It's like burying bad news by releasing it on teh day of a natural disaster or something like Blair did on 9/11. He's obviously had a few tips from Bertie.
YEah I think the FAI did ok this week, and the media, were the ones who were bang out of order.
Well then it did'nt work. The FAI and especially Delaney has been backtracking for over a week and he is looking like a bigger fool everyday. Holding a press conference at 1am in the morning just plays into the belief of football fans that the FAI and Delaney have'nt a clue what they are doing. Very few fans ever get to meet Delaney or anyone else in the FAI so it is through the media that we form our opinions of these people. And anyone who thinks the FAI achieved something by this should get out a bit more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er
Ok, if playing childish games is to be applauded then well done to the FAI. They are now as juvenile as the tabloid journalists that they rail against. I am not a fan of the antics of some of the press but ffs if a Kermit the frog is gonna have an impact on a hardened professional like Staunton then maybe he should have joined Stephen Ireland and pulled out of the Irish setup.
Steve Staunton has been reimbursed rather handsomely for his time in charge of Ireland, one of the reasons that he has been paid that sum is to deal with the media. If he wanted to sneak away with his nice payoff then fine but personally I think that he was fair game to be photographed or interviewed as he made good his escape.
Personally I think it was farcicial but there's no doubt that the headlines and news coverage wasn't as harsh as it would have been had it gone ahead at a reasonable hour in my opinion. Delaney doesn't give a toss about the fans and he's more concerned about the news media then the sports media. And no way did he want that press conference going out live, all the general public got from it are snippets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
Edit to say one of the reasons he didn't want it going out live was because of his back tracking etc, the guy's a snake of the highest order.
All that was required from the FAI was notice that the meeting was taking place, the venue, the time of the press conference, maybe a few words from Staunton (granted this would be hard but he didn't just find out on the day that he was sacked, not matter what was said about it being decided there and then). Itis reported the that night/next day and then it is just a nother story, everybody moves on, we certainly wouldn't be still talking about it if the FAI had acted in any sort of professional manner.
well, i met delaney in tokyo the night before the saudi game and he was real sound. we had "lost" some of our match tickets (long story!) and he sorted us with free cat one ticekts the next day at the team hotelQuote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
think they dealt with the media fine this week and were dead right to keep the meeting out of the eye of the press. press conferences are there to inform the fans through the media and thats exactly what happened... problem is what?
I have to laugh at the Irish hacks throwing their toys out of the pram everytime RepublicOfIreland fail to qualify for something simply because they've been denied another p1ss-up junket. None of them know anything about football (and how could they be expected to, given that they derive all their knowledge of the game from a rectangular box and the opinions of only slightly better-informed British hacks.) Screw 'em. They're not just part of the problem, to a large extent they are the problem.
This was one of the contractual obligations of his job. Considering that he had been fired, he was no longer under any such obligation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schlooooomp
I'm sure he'll be talking soon enough about the whole thing; it's understandable if he's not up for it just yet.
Agree with Pete about the behaviour of the media. My favorite was Tom Humphries whinging pathetically, without a hint of irony, about what a whinger Keane is.
Surely that is a bit of a general comments. A few of the hacks as you call them attend LOI games quite regularly as far as I know.
"Attend" is right. Check out the press box next time you're at an LOI game; you can't miss it, it's full of bored-looking people who look like woodwork teachers and have palpably little interest in football.
The press were doing their job of covering a story that is in the interest of their readers/viewers. Certainly it was a circus but more so because of the antics of the FAI. Now the press have two stories, Staunton's sacking and an opportunity to have a go at the FAI for acting in an immature manner.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
Yeah i have seen a few of them at Dalymount quite a bit Aidan Fitzmaurice and a few other guys that I know their faces and not their names. To be honest they are meant to look quite sombreand not be cheerleaders with laptops.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheridan
its all down to opinion really and i think most people can make their own minds up on how the FAI acted on tuesday. Emmet Malone of the Irish times was on the radio last night and he fully understood what the FAI did and saw merit in keeping stan out of the press hounds that day. he didnt have a problem with it at all and just said it was inconvenient with regards to deadlines. the FAI cant win on this it appears as the same people who are having a go at stan being kept behind the scenes would be calling it an FAI farce if he had arrived and been humiliated in front of the press. some people just like any old excuse for a good moanQuote:
Originally Posted by Schlooooomp
Do you know anything about dealing with the media?They are a shower of vultures and as someone else said were only interested in the money shot of Staunton leaving the meeting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schlooooomp
No one apart from the FAI board members and Staunton had the "right" to be informed of this meeting as it was not a public event.It was a meeting between employers and an employee.The media were informed of the subsequent press conference and thats all they had the right to be present for.
Dont get me wrong I am no fan of the FAI but I have to say I have been impressed with how they handled this part of their business and let an Irish playing legend leave his managerial post with some dignity left.
The media boys just got the hump because the FAI got one over on them and they had to do a full days work for once.
The FAI had the right idea by how they went about things, however they should not have kept the media waiting until 1 in the morning. They should have just told the media that there would be a press conference in the morning instead of keeping them waiting. It hardly improves relations between the two. And in doing so, the FAI failed the fans. I was waiting all night to hear the press conference and had to be up early the next morning and I'm sure it was the same with other people. Could they not have just left the press conference till the morning or at least just given people an idea of when there would be one? They weren't just keeping the media waiting, they were keeping the fans waiting too.Quote:
Originally Posted by btid1
Then why did Delaney inform the press that a board meeting was going to be brought forward to specifically deal with Staunton, why not keep quiet, have the meeting and then publicise the subsequent press conference. He did this because it suited him at the time (took some of the heat off him coz he was acting decisively), not beacuse it suited Staunton, or the press and certainly not the fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by btid1
Using the press is a two way street.