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Forgot to mention but last week the Herald backpage had a small story about that potential club in Fingal being formed again. Liam Buckley's name was mentioned as usual but apparently the council will back the building of a 10k seater stadium. The article also said the club will be called Fingal City. Why City I have no idea seeming as Fingal is a county at best.:confused:
Wouldn't the simple thing here be to merger with/take over Shelbourne? It would get them a stadium and get Fingal into the league quickly.
(Unless I wasn't in that day) I am 100% certain that Fingal is not a county! :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Poor Student
AFAIK its officially a county. Have you ever drove into fingal? The sign says welcome to county Fingal (or something along them lines)Quote:
Originally Posted by galwayhoop
It has a county council, similar to Tipperary North, Dun Laoighre/Rathdown and Tipperary South.
Here you go It's neither county or city.
The administrative area of Fingal is located to the north of the City of Dublin and extends in the west to the line of the River Liffey, to the east to the sea and to the north as far as the county boundary. It covers an area of approximately 173 square miles and has a population of almost 210,000 with growth projections to 260,000 by the year 2010.
It came into being on the 1st. January, 1994 following the abolition of the former Dublin County Council and the establishment of 3 new authorities to replace it.
Regardless of the name have people not learned from the CHF fiasco? Surprised at Liam getting involved in this kind of mess. As mentioned the sensible move would be to join shels and get a stadium up and running.
What is definite is that the league does not need another Dublin club.
KOH
Dublin City Part 2! What a joke that was. What a joke this is. Although it was in The Hearld so it's obviously a well sourced news story and not some bloke overheard ramblin' on on the 52A bus.
Fingal has no charter and as such calling a club from there 'Fingal City' would at best be a misnomer and at worst a downright lie.
Still ...if it didn't stop Manchester United.
Why is this type of rumour rubbish allowed to even start up.Agreed the last thing the EL needs is another Dublin club
Article about this new club being formed was in the Fingal Independent (our local paper) ages ago, so reckon this is not just a rumour.
I saw the recent Herald article too and it suggested the whole thing was approved and ready to go. I know the Herald is not a bastion of truth, but, this story has been on the go for too long not to have some truth in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by shelbourne1904
Agree with others that the obvious solution would be merger with Shelbourne.
The piece in the Fingal Independent was published in May. Says that the new club intends to apply to play in the EL in 2008.
They're not planning the enter the league, they're planning to enter the A Championship initially.
Personally I think they're as strong a candidate as any. FingalCoCo is a particularly separatist council which is trying to forge an identity for the region and sees sport as the best means of doing so. They've invested a lot of (wisely targeted and utilised) money into cricket in recent years and have made Fingal the undisputed epicentre of the game in Ireland. To succeed in Irish football beyond subsistence level you either need a private investor or public money. Fingal County Council have the money, the will and the acumen to make a go of this. I can see them in the league before 2010.
They're not going to merge with Shelbourne as the club's raison d'etre is as a flagship for the "county."
More than a rumour. I mentioned this on here before. They held meetings in hotels around North Dublin and invited clubs along. They were asking clubs to sent their most talented youngester to a purpose built academy in Fingal and progress them into the new team. However when clubs, some who have been starved of funding and facilities, learned of this expenditure they were less than cooperative with the new venture. Have not heard much about this is a while, thought it was put on the back burner.
How can a club that doesn't exist merge with us?
This whole project is a pure waste of tax-payers money, and evidence of the worst kind of political egoism that arises when you carve administrative entities out of nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheridan
People are not from Fingal. They are from Dublin. Or from Malahide. Or Castleknock. Or from wherever else they identify with. But you can be certain that they don't identify with anything or any entity known as 'Fingal'.
Fingal is an artifical creation that appears to be desperately creating an image/identity for itself where one doesn't exist and alternative preferable ones do (e.g. Dublin). In this it will be no more of a success than any of the 33 Borough Councils in London that have tried and failed to create council-level identites over people's local or city-wide ones. I live in Stockwell or London. Lambeth is merely the name at the top of the weighty council-tax bill I receive once a year.
As Fingal is an artifical creation that was hoisted upon people, those who live in that administrative region will feel no empathy towards anything that attempts to trumpet and standard bear for that administrative region. Because Fingal means nothign to them.
This is just a case of politicians playing out their daft fantasies and dreaming of little empires where none exist. It will therefore be a pure waste of their tax-payers money, fail to secure the support level required for it to be a meaningful team at a senior level, and inevitably fissle out as they look towards otehr little projects to bolster their non-existent republic.
P.S. Fingal is not the undisputed epicentre of cricket in Ireland. Arguably Clontarf is - though chunks of Ulster would happily contest that claim, and the predominance of international games north of the border would tend to support that claim.
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located to the north of the City of Dublin and extends in the west to the line of the River Liffey, to the east to the sea and to the north as far as the county boundary
Have a wild guess where Clontarf is Steve.
I remember when they first replaced Dublin County Council many years ago and they placed a sign stating "welcome to Fingal" at the juntion of The half way house and the Phoenix Park race course. The same local representatives in Castleknock who protested against the national stadium plan for the Phoenix park Race Course (because of traffic and a casino, who now have to live with three thousand houses instead) complained that people would think that it meant you are now entering Finglas.
Fingal Ravens GAA club http://www.fingalravens.com/index.html have been around for a long long time. Fingal always existed, however it was an rural area between Swords and Rush. When the councils split it seemed to encompass a lot more areas.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
I'd imagine they identify with being from the Northside, which is what Fingal is essentially.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
That said, I don't think this club is likely to garner much support and some partnership with Shels or Bohs would be more useful.