Ireland's Worst Ever Substitution

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08/09/2007, 9:36 PM
Paddy Garcia

Ireland's Worst Ever Substitution

Any advance on Douglas?

I can hear Stan now "lets stick someone on who will scrap away in midfield for the last few mins & break up play!"

When it was obvious to all that we needed someone to put his foot on the ball & keep posession: REID. As soon as Douglas came on I said they will score as we were never going to keep posession - little did I think he would lose his marker too. What was going through Stans mind ????

Holland for Kennedy comes close as Kennedy was such an effective outlet in that game. But at least Holland was playing premiership footy and playing excellent football at that.

Douglas ... My God, it's a bad joke.
08/09/2007, 9:41 PM
carloz

Keith O'Neill against Macedonia. Douglas has always given his best when playing for Ireland and i feel he is being vilified for the sake of it. Its not his fault the manager felt the need to have THREE defensive central midfielders on the pitch
08/09/2007, 9:48 PM
R�iteoir

Sir Bobby coming on that radio programme for Staunton and Delaney.

Horrific substitution imo
08/09/2007, 9:50 PM
Paddy Garcia

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Originally Posted by R�iteoir

Sir Bobby coming on that radio programme for Staunton and Delaney.

Horrific substitution imo

Ok, on that note Stan for Kerr.
08/09/2007, 10:18 PM
soccerc

Keith O'Neill against Macedonia when he was told to run around midfield and stay away from the ball
08/09/2007, 10:24 PM
Colbert Report

Robbie Keane getting subbed off at the 60th minute against Switzerland in November 2005. Gary f'ing Doherty!
08/09/2007, 11:40 PM
the ox

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Originally Posted by Colbert Report

Robbie Keane getting subbed off at the 60th minute against Switzerland in November 2005. Gary f'ing Doherty!

That's the exact one I was thinking of. Although was it in 2003? And Clinton Morrison came off for Mark Kinsella?
08/09/2007, 11:43 PM
Colbert Report

Yes you're right, it was 2003. Everyone in the pub was screaming at Brian Kerr for that one.
08/09/2007, 11:44 PM
Torn-Ado

Robbie Keane off injured against Israel at home and Graham Kavanagh and defensive midfielder in his place...

Ah f*ck it. I cant take this **** anymore.
08/09/2007, 11:46 PM
Colbert Report

I think I remember that match. Didn't he get injured about ten seconds into the match, only to stay on and score before being subbed after 25 minutes? Ian Harte scored a free kick then as well I think.
08/09/2007, 11:47 PM
Torn-Ado

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Originally Posted by Colbert Report

I think I remember that match. Didn't he get injured about ten seconds into the match, only to stay on and score before being subbed after 25 minutes? Ian Harte scored a free kick then as well I think.

Thats it.

The Irish way. Score and sit on it until the opposition do like wise. Or in that case score twice.
09/09/2007, 12:46 AM
Qwerty

The Douglas substitution was baffling, Ireland apparently had a problem with his hamstring so a change had to be made, you would have thought Reid/Hunt would the obvious choices but instead Stan goes for a League 1 player who can't pass the ball and hasn't play 1 minute of competitive football so far this season and asks him to play out of position.

Anyone notice that we didn't have a defender on the bench? Stan needs to work on his options at the back.
09/09/2007, 2:50 AM
Supreme feet

Douglas should be shot.

Sorry, heart talking before head. Douglas should be left out of the next squad.
09/09/2007, 5:17 AM
ofjames

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Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia

Any advance on Douglas?

Holland for Kennedy comes close as Kennedy was such an effective outlet in that game. But at least Holland was playing premiership footy and playing excellent football at that.

Ipswich were a division one club in 1999 (the year they were promoted), so holland was not playing premiership footy at that time. In my opinion, the holland substitution still ranks as the worst of recent times (slightly ahead of kavanagh for keane versus Israel).

Forget about blaming douglas. blame the manager
09/09/2007, 8:22 AM
Scram

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Originally Posted by Colbert Report

Robbie Keane getting subbed off at the 60th minute against Switzerland in November 2005. Gary f'ing Doherty!

That was Number 1 sh!t sub, until Stan somehow managed to outdo it last night :mad:
09/09/2007, 1:09 PM
rambler14

Joe Lapira in America.
Nothing wrong with Jon Douglas either, i think hes a fine player.
09/09/2007, 9:51 PM
TheJamaicanP.M.

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Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia

Ok, on that note Stan for Kerr.

How about Kerr for McCarthy. Irish football has been on a downward spiral ever since.
09/09/2007, 10:46 PM
fergalr

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Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia

Holland for Kennedy comes close as Kennedy

Still #1 for me though I have no doubt Staunton will surpass it before his reign is out. Douglas came close.
09/09/2007, 10:58 PM
Donal81

I thought that O'Shea was at fault for the second equaliser (that hurts to write), to be honest. Why on earth didn't he get his body behind the 'tackle' that he made before the Slovak scored?

Not to detract from the silliness of the Douglas substitution. He isn't the worst player in the world and has played well for us in the past and shouldn't be blamed for being the substitute. It was Stan's call and I just cannot understand it. I just can't think of one tactical benefit Stan envisaged taking place as a result of Douglas. And Gibson, for that matter. Both were pointless substiutions that killed us.

As for this thread, Keaneo's substitution against Israel when he made way for Graham Kavanagh, with Duff moving up front. Shocking stuff, Kerr's worst decision.
09/09/2007, 11:22 PM
craig7042

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Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia

Any advance on Douglas?

I can hear Stan now "lets stick someone on who will scrap away in midfield for the last few mins & break up play!"

When it was obvious to all that we needed someone to put his foot on the ball & keep posession: REID. As soon as Douglas came on I said they will score as we were never going to keep posession - little did I think he would lose his marker too. What was going through Stans mind ????

Holland for Kennedy comes close as Kennedy was such an effective outlet in that game. But at least Holland was playing premiership footy and playing excellent football at that.

Douglas ... My God, it's a bad joke.

I dont think it was as big a deal as many are making it out to be. We should have had the ability to hold on with whoever came on. It seems to me the team is just simply a bit short at the moment. I wouldnt blame Stan or the players - just a big lacking in maturity in terms of shutting up shop.
Its not for lack of desire or passion.

But I long for them to pull it out of the bag on Wednesday. What a night if we do.

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