Irish Sunderland fan here. Debate very interesting

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26/04/2007, 4:12 PM
irishboy99

Irish Sunderland fan here. Debate very interesting

on the website.
Some very negative towards Keane/Quinn/Drumville.
To be honest many seem to be just sad that the LOI cannot attract investment into the game but there is no way Keane/Quinn/Drumville are interested in helping the LOI, and I am sure the mature audience in here realize that.
The investment in Uk football comes to many clubs -Sunderland, Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea, Reading etc etc. Some are from money interested parties, some from fans (wigan athletic chairman).
The LOI will always be a minority interest in this country and most clubs seem to be happy with that. I love to see them do well but like many who follow clubs in the UK they never captured our interest when we were kids.
I have been a Sunderland fan since 1981 when I saw them play Liverpool and was amazed at the passion and support of their fans. I was hooked. Before that I saw the great Dundalk team in the early eighties but while I keep an eye out for them they never got under my skin.
As an example of the modern youths, my son is a Liverpool fan, we live in Dublin but there is no LOI club that any of the kids follow. I asked him once if he wanted to see a LOI game as we had nothing to do on a Friday and he looked at me like I was mad. Sorry for the ramble but the vilification of Sunderland is silly. The club had a massive local fan base before the irish involvement and will always keep that
26/04/2007, 4:18 PM
BohsFans

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Originally Posted by irishboy99

The LOI will always be a minority interest in this country and most clubs seem to be happy with that.

:rolleyes:

Please explain.
26/04/2007, 4:19 PM
CharlesThompson

In your opinion, would you like to see an Irish side doing well in Europe? i.e. reach the group stages of Champions League or Uefa Cup. If so would you go along to support them?
26/04/2007, 4:25 PM
Jerry The Saint

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Originally Posted by irishboy99

I love to see them do well

Super! Thanks for that, it really means a lot to all of us.:)
26/04/2007, 4:43 PM
OneRedArmy

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Originally Posted by irishboy99

The LOI will always be a minority interest in this country

Is that what they call a self fulfilling prophecy?!

Hardly deserves a new thread.
26/04/2007, 4:50 PM
Philly

The Sunderland thing has just proved how easily bought and sold theres so called "soccer lovers" are bought and sold over in England.

Just think about it logically - sir.

You are Irish, yes?

You support a team from England - Sunderland of all teams.

Now, does that reeeealy make any sense?

I mean. You have a local team I'm sure. Yea, they might not be a big club, but it's where you come from so tough ****, I know the feeling, I'm from Kildare.

The reason LOI doesn't attract investment is because smart investors know that Irish people are such bloody good patriots and fans that they'd much rather throw their money across the water than actually even attend the odd game for their hometown club.

Bottom line: You are just a customer. A statistic in the Drumville business plan. Nothing more - nothing less.
26/04/2007, 4:51 PM
A face

First post ..... is it trolling?

Will anyone bite i wonder?
26/04/2007, 4:53 PM
TheBoss

Slightly off topic here, What annoys me about Sunderland is hearing their results on the radio and not hearing the other Championship scores. Or when Setanta show a EPL game @ 3.00, Sunderland's score pops up in the corner and no other Championship score. I find it embarrassing, Everyone in Ireland is all of a sudden a Sunderland supporter, joke. Its like every Irish person is suppose to support Celtic, well, I do not.
26/04/2007, 4:55 PM
irishboy99

Minority interest/Clubs

From my perspective and I am an outsider looking in many ways the clubs do very little to attract new interest from the new generation of soccer supporter so I take from that that the clubs are happy with the status quo.
As to the comment would I like to see them do well in the CL or UEFA cup? I said that "I would love to see them do well" but that goes for any irish club in any sport. Would I go along to watch them? No. They are not my club but I am sure there would be many bandwagon jumpers (like there is at present) with Sunderland and LOI clubs maybe happy with that but its the getting them back that is the killer. I think that you all will just have to accept as things stand that LOI has very little sway with vast numbers of soccer supporting people in Ireland. For those that support LOI, great but please, please do not rundown other people for their love of other clubs whether that is in England, scotland etc. :)
26/04/2007, 4:56 PM
Philly

I notices in one national publication Sunderlands position and name on the table were highlighted. And not when they were in first place. They certainly have the media on their side.
26/04/2007, 5:00 PM
irishboy99

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Originally Posted by Philly

Bottom line: You are just a customer. A statistic in the Drumville business plan. Nothing more - nothing less.

Philly: You are failing to read my initial post. I am a Sunderland fan since 1981 when Niall quinn was playing hurling for Dublin minors. Unless I had a crystal ball I would hardly know who the later owners were going to be.
I totally reject your assumption. I am "Sunderland till I die" as the chant goes:)
26/04/2007, 5:00 PM
Poor Student

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Originally Posted by irishboy99

For those that support LOI, great but please, please do not rundown other people for their love of other clubs whether that is in England, scotland etc. :)

Why? Why do you feel the need to come here and justify yourself? Is there a feeling of guilt ebbing away somewhere in you?
26/04/2007, 5:01 PM
BohsFans

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Originally Posted by TheBoss

Slightly off topic here, What annoys me about Sunderland is hearing their results on the radio and not hearing the other Championship scores. Or when Setanta show a EPL game @ 3.00, Sunderland's score pops up in the corner and no other Championship score. I find it embarrassing, Everyone in Ireland is all of a sudden a Sunderland supporter, joke. Its like every Irish person is suppose to support Celtic, well, I do not.

In fairness, they do it for Dunfermline's scores as well.

Irish manager.
26/04/2007, 5:03 PM
Philly

You aren't a soccer supporter, you are a customer. People don't support Sunderland, they consume it. Give it up like! If you don't like what you are seeing you can switch the channel. If the TV goes bust you can't even see the team you "support". If a TV channel doesn't deem their matches worth showing, you can't see them in action. It's like any TV show. The Premiership is just like the OC at this stage, excepth the Premiership gets repeated more often.

Sunderland is an end product, just like most big English clubs. The only link you have to it is your wallet - and that's all they want too.

There are about 20,000 soccer SUPPORTERS in this country. You'll find them standing out in whatever the conditions are on a Friday or Saturday night. They don't have the pleasure of action replays or alternate angles, but they get to be there and support a real club, their club.

Don't forget to re-new your Sky Subscription.
26/04/2007, 5:03 PM
TheBoss

Setanta have always given all Scottish results in the corners cause they own the rights and stuff like that.
26/04/2007, 5:05 PM
Philly

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Originally Posted by irishboy99

Philly: You are failing to read my initial post. I am a Sunderland fan since 1981 when Niall quinn was playing hurling for Dublin minors. Unless I had a crystal ball I would hardly know who the later owners were going to be.
I totally reject your assumption. I am "Sunderland till I die" as the chant goes:)

I don't care when you decided to follow them mate. Fact is you were a customer then and still are now. Not a supporter. They don't need you. They wouldn't notice it if you never showed again.
26/04/2007, 5:07 PM
irishboy99

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Originally Posted by Poor Student

Why? Why do you feel the need to come here and justify yourself? Is there a feeling of guilt ebbing away somewhere in you?

No not at all. The reason I came on the board was there was a link to the website on www.readytogo.net to this board saying "bitter irish fans" and I was very surprised to see that it was true for some individuals.
I dont need to justify myself but thought a different perspective from an irish Sunderland supporter would go some way to redressing the balance. Dont worry it is my first and last post to the board and I feel better ;)
26/04/2007, 5:07 PM
BohsFans

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Originally Posted by TheBoss

Setanta have always given all Scottish results in the corners cause they own the rights and stuff like that.

Not all of them 'as the goals go in'.
Only Celtic, Rangers and Dunfermline. -FACT!
26/04/2007, 5:08 PM
skitz3

Philly good point and one i never really considered before.

Irishboy99,what time is your flight to Sunderland for tomorrow nights game? Have you booked your flights for the Luton game yet? I'm sure you have seeing as you're such a big supporter and all.
26/04/2007, 5:10 PM
irishboy99

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Originally Posted by Philly

I don't care when you decided to follow them mate. Fact is you were a customer then and still are now. Not a supporter. They don't need you. They wouldn't notice it if you never showed again.

Now you are really being silly. Explain the difference to me. Be careful. I shall keep rubbishing your arguments if you keep up the same logic.:rolleyes:

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