Angel signs for the Red Bulls

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18/04/2007, 12:20 PM
jebus

Angel signs for the Red Bulls

Calling your team the New York Red Bulls, I mean ****sake....

Anyway, now that Beckham is making the switch stateside at the age of 31, Juan Pablo Angel has left Villa at the age of 31 for a move to America, Zinedine Zidane is being wooed by Los Angeles, and the Major League is thinking of dropping the number of non-nationals allowed play for you team, aswell as the wage cap, could we soon see a mass imigration of European and South American players to the States?

A few teams are apparantly looking into signing Frank Lampard, and whilst I think thats a bit optimistic from them, the fact that they would even look in the first place may be a sign of their future ambitions
18/04/2007, 12:30 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by jebus

Calling your team the New York Red Bulls, I mean ****sake....

Well if I was the owner of Red Bull and I bought a football team in New York, thats what I'd call them. Makes sense in America. Changing the Austrian team to Red Bull Salzburg is stoopid though
18/04/2007, 12:39 PM
RogerMilla

what a waster that fella is , he only had one good season coindeidentally in the lead up to his new contract !! o'neill dead right to cut him as soon as he could
18/04/2007, 12:54 PM
dfx-

I've always thought he was decent..just got stuck and got ahem... *comfortable* at Villa
18/04/2007, 9:17 PM
Closed Account 2

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Originally Posted by jebus

A few teams are apparantly looking into signing Frank Lampard, and whilst I think thats a bit optimistic from them, the fact that they would even look in the first place may be a sign of their future ambitions

He should go to the Chicago Fire, the food in that city would be perfect for him. Lots of burgers, BBQ ribs, fried chicken, pizza loaded with cheese, double portions of french fries... Just take him to the dunkin donuts at the airport and he'll sign up.
19/04/2007, 2:40 AM
danonion

Im going to the game this weekend, doubt he will feature but not a bad signing
20/04/2007, 9:34 AM
Poor Student

Toronto have signed Daniele Dichio from Preston. A decent enough signing but I hope he's not their marquee player!
20/04/2007, 10:39 AM
danonion

If he is I'd say Kilbane has a fair shot of becoming a real celebrity in the USA
20/04/2007, 10:41 AM
Pauro 76

Red Bulls sign Angel.

"Red Bull gives you (Angel) Wings"
20/04/2007, 11:09 AM
Steve Bruce

If America takes football seriously they would become a major force. I could also see an expansion to the champions league if things did take off.
20/04/2007, 12:31 PM
jebus

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Originally Posted by Steve Bruce

If America takes football seriously they would become a major force. I could also see an expansion to the champions league if things did take off.

or the scrapping of the Champions League and the expanding of the World Club Championship?
20/04/2007, 3:53 PM
papa-j

Angel..loads of ability but a lazy ballbag. They'll need to drip feed him Redbull
to get him moving!
20/04/2007, 3:58 PM
Steve Bruce

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Originally Posted by jebus

or the scrapping of the Champions League and the expanding of the World Club Championship?

World Club Championship hasn't got a great image. Who really gives a damn about it.

The Champions League although a miss leading name, it certaintly has all the prestige you would need.

So I would say the CL would be more of a goer due to its greater image and prestige
25/04/2007, 1:00 AM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Well if I was the owner of Red Bull and I bought a football team in New York, thats what I'd call them. Makes sense in America. Changing the Austrian team to Red Bull Salzburg is stoopid though

Which would be all well and good if he'd actually bought a team, in New York. The Metrostars are in New Jersey, as is the new Red Bull Park he's building for them. At least when Distillery moved out of Belfast they had the decency to call themselves Lisburn Distillery....

Make no mistake that the owenr of Red Bull (Mateschitz) wants to use football as an extension of his brand - nothing more, nothing less. He really doesn't give a sh!t about the game, and cares less for any team that he usurps to act as his little brand vehicle. He was an evil b@stard with what he did to Salzburg in Austria - changing their name, colours, declaring a 'Year Zero' and saying they had no history. Luckily for him Amedrican clubs have no history, support or identity and their goonish fans don't give a sh!t about such things.

Though he is also looking for a club to do the same with in England, so get the popcorn in for the mother of all b!tch-fights over that, as he slowly realises he has bitten off more than his brand can chew...
25/04/2007, 1:04 AM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by Steve Bruce

If America takes football seriously they would become a major force. I could also see an expansion to the champions league if things did take off.

Why would the CL expand out of Europe at all - it's a UEFA product ?!? And why would CONCACAF agree to it - surely they'd rather have their own version ? :confused:

And if it did, why would it ever look to involve North American teams, when there's leagues full of dramatically better and more glamorous sides in South America ??

Man United v Boca Juniors or Man United v Colorado K-Mart Ass-Biscuits. Hmm - now which would be the bigger draw...... :ball:
25/04/2007, 1:42 AM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Luckily for him Amedrican clubs have no history, support or identity and their goonish fans don't give a sh!t about such things.

Bit harsh. Most reports I read had their fans protesting (oh and they get better crowds than we do, so I wouldn't be using that stick to beat them with)
25/04/2007, 9:33 AM
Poor Student

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Luckily for him Amedrican clubs have no history, support or identity and their goonish fans don't give a sh!t about such things.

Pretty ignorant comment. There's a NY/NJ Metrostars fan on this board who was pretty upset at what had happened to his club.
25/04/2007, 10:06 AM
Steve Bruce

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Why would the CL expand out of Europe at all - it's a UEFA product ?!? And why would CONCACAF agree to it - surely they'd rather have their own version ? :confused:

And if it did, why would it ever look to involve North American teams, when there's leagues full of dramatically better and more glamorous sides in South America ??

Man United v Boca Juniors or Man United v Colorado K-Mart Ass-Biscuits. Hmm - now which would be the bigger draw...... :ball:

Why? MONEY, the greenstuff that makes the world go round, that's why.

Also if MLS did become a force then the big teams there will be a big draw. Just like Chelsea, 5 years ago they where a decent club with modest draw. Now they are a massive draw - Why? they have plenty of money and made a good side into a great side.

UEFA and CONCACAF would work together if they thought they could double there income.

The South American teams might have a few big name clubs, but they carry very little value with them. Is any of them in the top 100 richest clubs?
25/04/2007, 10:10 AM
Dodge

I'd say a number of them are. Look at the transfers fees iinvolved in Argentina. Far more than the vast majority of european leagues could afford
25/04/2007, 10:16 AM
Jerry The Saint

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Originally Posted by Poor Student

Pretty ignorant comment. There's a NY/NJ Metrostars fan on this board who was pretty upset at what had happened to his club.

And the history of American sport shows many examples of fans getting extremely upset over losing their team.

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