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I know we have been getting hassle from the fai over this and have managed to stamp it out at home amongst our fans, but a few young fellas started a few up in ucd and we are getting hassle over this also but with clubs having videos on there own clubsites with fans basically giving a full flare display, what I am really asking is if the fai are bothering other clubs about this?
I think under controlled conditions there should be no hassle with it. I.E. if certain groups inside grounds make arrangements to use them, have buckets on hand for quenching etc.
Pats were allowed used them last friday for the minutes applause.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD3cpvIe5Jo
kdjac
Were they allowed by the fai or was it by the club? Is there a health and safety issue, as it is a rule of the licensing, buckets or not they are not allowed.
Do some clubs allow it with buckets ?
GUFC released an official statement on the use of flares but no flares had been let off by home fans this year.:confused:
gufct has a bee in his bonnet about flares.
They're mainly just used by away fans-i don't see the harm in them.
Flares are great. All this health and safety bull is an attempt to ruin the atmosphere at games. Name an incident where someone was hurt by a Flare at a football ground under controlled conditions. A couple of years back I remember us getting fined for using flares at a game while shortly after on the UEFA website there was a picture of Liverpool fans using flares at a European match as an example of atmosphere.
we've had 2 this year, in Longford and Galway...
Is there any fai contact at all about this?
I agree flares a great but I only see my club being hammered it cant be one rule for 1 and another for another
and we fined for both as well afaik.Quote:
Originally Posted by Red&White Rover
While the FAI rule banning the rule of flares is pointless, stewards enforcing
that rule are only doing their (in many cases voluntary, and thankless) job.
The major problem is the FAI observers. An old school Hylandesque blazer "won't see" flares, while another observer will report the club or its supporters. The arbritrary fines then seem very unfair to supporters.
Supervised use of flares should be allowed, after consultation with the stewards of the home club. A supporters group could lobby the FAI on this issue.
I don't give a f**k what any of you think, trousers from the seventies have no place in Irish football.
Flares in confident areas are very dangerous especially when kids are waving them around. Some kids had them in the middle of City fans for Pats v City in the Setanta Cup & could feel the heat down the back of my neck. IF they had dropped one would burn anything & anyone they touched.
I agree they good for atmosphere but poor show if can't create atmosphere without them.
I think clubs could be liable legally for any accident as the FAI would claim they banned them & club had not policed correctly.
ndeNot by the FAI they weren't. In fact some bitch of a Garda confiscated two flares offs a Bohs fan despite the fact the situation was explained to her regards the tribute display for wws. Miserable ****.Quote:
Originally Posted by kdjaC
Its amazing how the guards hassle real supporters yet when there's real hassle in a ground, i.e. two sets of "schooligans" ****ing bottles etc. at eachother, they run and hide.
IMO if a club has a procedure in place for the safe use of flares at games (such as what we had at Bohs a few years ago until the FAI over-ruled us) then the said clubs should be given special dispensation to use them. But the FAI seem intent of following the UK example of sterile, boring, atmosphereless all-seater stadiums. If they bothered to look to the continent rather than England and Scotland, they'd soon realise how much more enjoyable a game's atmosphere can be.
The clubs should be campaigning on supporters' behalf on this issue.
a flare is in sense a firework and if they are set off amomgst a group of people then it is not under controlled conditions. i hate to see them inside any grounds in el mainly due to the case of an accident waiting to happenQuote:
Originally Posted by BohsPartisan
sorry pd. totally against them for the potential of a serious accidentQuote:
Originally Posted by Patrick Dunne
Has anyone actually been injured by a flare in an EL ground recently?
Where could you buy a flare? Its for an unrelated topic but I'm curious?
Thats not fair, they make my legs look longer so I will continue the fight for Flares at Football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galway Harps
Theres a shop in Dun Laoighre does sailing supplies sells them.
They've been used at football accross the world for years. Name a tme there was an accident. Also what we are talking about here is their use in a controlled area with buckets to put them out in.Quote:
Originally Posted by scotsbeer
There was two people taken to hospital at a waterford game last year one a six year old boy, think it was the last game of the year but im not too sureQuote:
Originally Posted by Saint MacDara