hypothetical situation (Stan's replacement)?

Ok, now i'm not calling for stan's head or anything, as to be honest i'd like to see him succeed as, keeping in mind he was a playing legend for us, it'd be a shame to see him tarnish that entirely by being a complete failure as manager. However, say stan was to be given the boot, i was wondering who we could possibly get to replace him. Given that the Fai appear to have chosen stan potentially as a cheap option, and perhaps to an extent because he would be a 'yes man' to an extent, and lets face it knowing the fai and the muppets who run it, this is a trend that is likely to continue, who would you hypothetically choose to replace stan?

I can't think of an obvious choice.

Roy Keane, whilst having more managerial experience than stan when he got the job, would be far too controversial and too outspoken for the fai, and given his current spat, would be unlikely in the near future, i draw a blank on whom could come in.

David o' leary has been out of work for a while now, and whilst he would probably jump at the chance, would likely be an equally awkward step backwards.

Then of course the usual names that are banded around. Dalglish? bryan Robson? Venables? et al, not obvious choices, and not a positive move forward.

so who could we get, baring in mind the Fai's limited wage budget for a manager, and obvious wish to pick a choice who wouldn't rock their own personal boats?

Any thoughts?

(again i'd like to reiterate this is NOT an anti-stan thread, i'm just curious about what people think about the situation, if hypothetically the bad press, and pressure for success caused stan to stand down, i'm curious where we would have to go from?)

I don't think Staunton was necessarily a cheap option ... you should see the ****ing house he's building outside of Carlingford (we nearly ran over him when he was out running the road over Christmas one night, caught a glimpse of his house). I think the best manager we could get would be big Sam Alardyce, he is a great manager in my book, I think he also was involved with Irish football for a while in Limerick but I could be way off there. Other ones I'd not mind seeing are Aidy Bothroyd, Eriksson, a Koeman or Mickey Harte :D

PS The championship table suggests that McCarthy is still the best Irish manager in the game today - look at his position and how he had absolutely no budget nad a **** squad

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Originally Posted by Thomo

Ok, now i'm not calling for stan's head or anything, as to be honest i'd like to see him succeed as, keeping in mind he was a playing legend for us, )

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Really? i always thought he was a complete ****, even as a player, which makes his appointment as manager so unbearingly sickening, i cant even stand to think about it.

There's not many who will say that Staunton wasn't a great player and servant for us. I've said it before that it's not his fault he was appointed but that's not making excuses for him because he is woefully inept at putting a squad together on a consistent basis and toe curlingly cringing when dealing with the media.

I think it's fairly obvious going on recent displays and Carsleys alleged comments that he isn't the most technically astute guy either. It sounds and looks like he just picks a team and lets them get on with it.

Roddy Collins and as mentor Pat Dolan .Anyone .........Anyone ......Bueller ...........Anyone
no didn't think so

Forget naming someone....

What qualities would you look for in an international manager?

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Originally Posted by blobbyblob

Forget naming someone....

What qualities would you look for in an international manager?

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Somebody who know how to manage would be a start

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Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse

There's not many who will say that Staunton wasn't a great player and servant for us

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Great servant? Of course. Great player? No way...

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PS The championship table suggests that McCarthy is still the best Irish manager in the game today - look at his position and how he had absolutely no budget nad a **** squad

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and how sunderland got promoted when he went there despite the fact he had to sell almost 20 first-team players to reduce their crippling wage budget following their relegation. in fact, as ironic as it is, he would have been better served not getting promoted as soon as he did because the club had no resources to buy players or pay wages and were still in damage limitation mode from the debts. in contrast to mr. keane, who is being touted as the new messiah on here, and has a fair whack of money at his disposal.

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Great servant? Of course. Great player? No way...

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Really? I think Staunton was a good player at Liverpool during his first spell and went on to be a great player for Aston Villa during his first spell there. That's when he was in his prime.

He was an OK player the top level in England and easily good enough for international level. I'd never use the word great to describe him though.

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Originally Posted by Block G Raptor

Roddy Collins and as mentor Pat Dolan .

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Well at least they both have managerial experience. :)

We need someone who picks players on merit/form, not on reputation.

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Other ones I'd not mind seeing are Aidy Bothroyd, Eriksson, a Koeman or Mickey Harte :D

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i'd take micky joe harte at this stage

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Roddy Collins

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roddy would, somehow, get the irish international team relegated. FIFA will have no idea how it occurred but will point out he's nothing if not consistent.

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roddy would, somehow, get the irish international team relegated. FIFA will have no idea how it occurred but will point out he's nothing if not consistent.

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Roddy has never gotten a team relegated, FACT.

How about Paul Doolin?

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roddy would, somehow, get the irish international team relegated. FIFA will have no idea how it occurred but will point out he's nothing if not consistent.

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Roddy would walk away one game before relegation.

He would then proceed to tell us how well he did everything when he managed Bohs, and say that really, the international game is a shambles, and that he really should be managing one of the big interplanetary teams, like Saturn or Neptune, whore himself out to anyone who claims to be in contact with aliens, link himself with the mission to Mars, before finally announcing that he is the new director of football for Pluto, which, as we all (bar presumably Roddy) know is no longer classified as a planet.

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Great servant? Of course. Great player? No way...

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100 caps makes him a top player.. He wasnt one of the greats, but he played for a long time at the top. I think footballers like that should be respected for lasting so long in the game even though they arent top top quality. It shows determination and character. Do you think he could be the one to survive this sort of situation? He's got 6 great points in the last two games when he could easily have ended up with 2..... bit of luck there at the right moments?

Kerr was berated because he was a manager who hadnt played at the top level. Staunton is berated because he played but didnt manage. You cant win...

Maybe next time we need to go for a player who has managed. But the way the media work he'll be slaughtered immediately. Name anyone...and I can predict the abuse already...

This is why we really need to be thinking of Stan improving rather than going for another man. At some point we need someone to get the luck they need and become great on the job. I know its hard to imagine Stan doing it from here but you've got to hope and give him a chance. If we scraped into the finals from this position it would incredible for the progress of the team and manager...

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perfectly serious - how about replacing robson with kerr?

another suggestion is I'd happily have john aldridge in place of stan


final suggestions for the day: Peter Taylor or steve coppell

The main criteria for international management should be experience and tactical acumen. There are 2 unusual things about being an international manager. Firstly, there is very little time to spend witht he players so you're never going to learn very much. Secondly, you cant buy players so you need to be able to pick a system suited to your players and whcih the players can fit into without too much explanation/training. Jack Charlton had both if these, which is why he was a much better international than club manager.

On that basis Terry Venables, who may be coming free, would be my choice.

i would take el tel like a shot , would also settle for o'leary although not a big fan , but really i want stan to succeed