Faith and Fatherland

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Fighting for Faith and Fatherland in Fermanagh
Arch-Catholic, novelist, ally of Justin Barrett, former I.R.A. volunteer, and failed gun runner Gerry McGeough is standing in the Northern Ireland Assembly elections on a traditional republican platform in the Fermanagh/South Tyrone constituency.

This article (taken from the newswire) analyses the politics and ideology of Gerry McGeough, his Hibernian magazine and other conservative and right wing nationalists that identify themselves as republicans. It outlines the background of Gerry McGeough, his past involvement in the Provisional Irish Republican Army, his current activity as editor of the extreme right-wing The Hibernian and explores their ideas and interpretations of nationalism, republicanism, religion, mysticism, sex, immigration, Masonic conspiracy theories and secularism vs. theocracy. The article also provides some historical background on the right wing aspects that have featured in Irish republicanism.

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What a nutter.

Some great quotes in there.

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“When a woman dresses even slightly provocatively, she becomes a tool of the devil, pulling many men with her towards Hell. Such a woman becomes the ‘bait’ of demons. For many men, to look at her may very well be an occasion of sin. They will be tempted away from their roles of self-control and self-discipline, enticed by this woman toward sensuality and carnality. This woman may think that she is beautiful, by the glances of approval she receives from men. She is thus drawn towards vanity and pride, and may become addicted to literally being the ‘object’ of attention. What she doesn’t see, however, is the disgust of the many guardian angels she unknowingly meets on her way, horrified by her ugliness in the sight of heaven.”

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Too right. Those evil women. :D

That fella takes a swipe at almost every section of irish society even paramilitary priests wouldn't vote for him. :eek:

of what he says.hes a born again christian who has left his violent past behind and who left sinn fein because even though they claim to be representing catholics they are pro abortion.im of the same opinion that this country is poorer for practically losing our irish language,our faith and our sense of civility.murders,suicides,drug use all up as Mass attendance and faith goes down-coincidence????????
its just your opinion that hes a nutter-my opinion is different however and so are many others.

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Originally Posted by eamo1

murders,suicides,drug use all up as Mass attendance and faith goes down-coincidence????????

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Yes, coincidence.

You could compare it to rising disposable income in recent years, and the growing gap between rich and poor, or the growing exposure to foreign influences through the media, or any other number of factors.

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Originally Posted by eamo1

murders,suicides,drug use all up as Mass attendance and faith goes down-coincidence????????

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murders,suicides,drug use all up as the popularity of televised snooker decreases-coincidence?????????

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Originally Posted by BohsPartisan

murders,suicides,drug use all up as the popularity of televised snooker decreases-coincidence?????????

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The link between a lack of televised snooker and an increase in crime of all kinds has been well documented. BohsPartisan, you're making a fool of yourself.

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Originally Posted by osarusan

The link between a lack of televised snooker and an increase in crime of all kinds has been well documented. BohsPartisan, you're making a fool of yourself.

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Studies in other countries have shown that this effect may be offset by alternative televisual opportunities to see grown men handling long polls... indeed, Venice's low crime rate has been long associated with its thriving pirate gay porn tv industry.

I've leafed through Hibernian at work and it's very weird stuff.

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Originally Posted by eamo1

im of the same opinion that this country is poorer for practically losing our irish language,our faith and our sense of civility.murders,suicides,drug use all up as Mass attendance and faith goes down-coincidence????????

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If anything I would say more people speak irish than 30 years ago. Church attendance has been reduced due to increased education & sex abuse scandals. Drugs use might be up because its cheaper than alcohol. The again thats just some theories...

(btw can you punctuate your posts, its not Ulysses your writing)

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Originally Posted by pete

Church attendance has been reduced due to increased education & sex abuse scandals.

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Don't forget the role of the freemasons! :D

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Originally Posted by eamo1

of what he says.hes a born again christian who has left his violent past behind and who left sinn fein because even though they claim to be representing catholics they are pro abortion.im of the same opinion that this country is poorer for practically losing our irish language,our faith and our sense of civility.murders,suicides,drug use all up as Mass attendance and faith goes down-coincidence????????
its just your opinion that hes a nutter-my opinion is different however and so are many others.

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It's strange weather when I'm jumping to Sinn Feins defence.

I'd say they represent people who happen to be catholic rather than they "represent catholics" in the sense that Christian Solidarity and whatever Nora Bennis is trading as this week most certainly do "represent catholics" and a (extremeist) catholic viewpoint. They represent Republicans -or a particularly warped slant on Republicanism at any rate -that many of those Republicans happen to be RC is, in this context, beside the point.

By what logic do you think "our language, faith (yours btw -sure as sh1t not mine) and sense of civility" are inextricably intertwined?

What else has gone up as mass attendance has gone down?
Let's see ...criminal convictions of members of MANY orders for sexually assaulting children, criminal convictions of more for wicked physical and psychological abuse of children in their care. Much of which happened in this golden age you hark after when we all had a greater sense of civility ...or is that a greater sense of communal ability to turn a blind eye and brush dirt under the carpet.

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Originally Posted by eamo1

of what he says.hes a born again christian who has left his violent past behind and who left sinn fein because even though they claim to be representing catholics they are pro abortion.im of the same opinion that this country is poorer for practically losing our irish language,our faith and our sense of civility.murders,suicides,drug use all up as Mass attendance and faith goes down-coincidence????????
its just your opinion that hes a nutter-my opinion is different however and so are many others.

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I would have thought that Gerry McGeough, as a so called Republican would subscribe to the ideals of 1916 and the proclamation of Poblacht na hEireann....The Republic guarantees religious and civil liberty, equal rights and equal opportunities to ALL its citizens, and declares its resolve to pursue the happiness and prosperity of the whole nation and of all its parts, cherishing all the children of the nation equally, and oblivious of the differences carefully fostered by an alien government, which has divided a minority from the majority in the past....

But this is the problem. A lot of people who claim to be Republican just want to replace British rule with their own form of totalitarianism. Treating people equally is not on their agenda.

Anybody hear Adams address delegates as "Brothers and Sisters" at the
weekend.He's weird.

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Originally Posted by cheifo

Anybody hear Adams address delegates as "Brothers and Sisters"

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Did he go on to say "Pump up the volume"? :)

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Originally Posted by BohsPartisan

Did he go on to say "Pump up the volume"? :)

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:D
No, but he did go on to say "We dont need this facist groove thing".

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Originally Posted by eamo1

of what he says.hes a born again christian who has left his violent past behind and who left sinn fein because even though they claim to be representing catholics they are pro abortion.im of the same opinion that this country is poorer for practically losing our irish language,our faith and our sense of civility.murders,suicides,drug use all up as Mass attendance and faith goes down-coincidence????????
its just your opinion that hes a nutter-my opinion is different however and so are many others.

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I totally agree with everything you've said. It's great to hear to hear the alternative view. There's no debate anymore since the left won the 'liberal crusade' and the right won the economic argument.

This country needs a new political party that is left wing on economic issues but conservative on moral issues like abortion, in fact the complete opposite to everything the Progressive Democrats and Independent Newspapers stand for.

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Originally Posted by Paddy Ramone

This country needs a new political party that is left wing on economic issues but conservative on moral issues like abortion, in fact the complete opposite to everything the Progressive Democrats and Independent Newspapers stand for.

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Who are you? Otto Strasser?

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Originally Posted by Paddy Ramone

I totally agree with everything you've said. It's great to hear to hear the alternative view. There's no debate anymore since the left won the 'liberal crusade' and the right won the economic argument.

This country needs a new political party that is left wing on economic issues but conservative on moral issues like abortion, in fact the complete opposite to everything the Progressive Democrats and Independent Newspapers stand for.

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Am not being flippant but I never understood why the abortion issue was such a major pillar of catholic thinking in this country? surely it is a relatively minor part of being a catholic? and is the party you describe above not just Fianna Fail?

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Originally Posted by Paddy Ramone

I totally agree with everything you've said. It's great to hear to hear the alternative view. There's no debate anymore since the left won the 'liberal crusade' and the right won the economic argument.

This country needs a new political party that is left wing on economic issues but conservative on moral issues like abortion, in fact the complete opposite to everything the Progressive Democrats and Independent Newspapers stand for.

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Like a sort of National Socialist party perchance? :rolleyes:

The 'liberal crusade' is far from being won when every year we have over 8,000 Irish women forced to go abroad for terminations. That's just one example.

KOH

I seen this guy was arrested yesterday in the car park of the count centre in Omagh in connection with the murder of a UDR member in 1981. Not only did he only get 814 first preference votes but then he gets arrested as he leaves the count... There is justice in the world.