We do NOT have a good squad

Lads will ye take off the green tinted glasses and wake up! What are ye like! Why are Irish people so bloody afraid to be negative! Ye are probably the same clowns who actually APPLUADED them off the pitch in Nicosia!! Unbelievable. Look, we do NOT have a good team.
Shay Given is a class keeper
Steve Finnan is an average full back and nothing more
Richard Dunne is a good strong footballer
Ian Harte is a terrible defender
Stephen Carr is 3 years past his best and a non entity these days
Paul McShane plays ONE good game and he is the new Kevin Moran, oh my God like......!!!!
Andy Reid is fat, one dimensional and over rated. He is a Charlton sub!
Kevin Kilbane is......Kevin Kilbane. I dont need to have a go, we all know.....
Lee Carsely, well is Lee Carsely is the Saviour, God Help us all
John O'Shea is USELESS USELESS USELESS and he is nothing else
Damien Duff is so over rated in this country is sickening. He is a lad with ability but a horrible attitude, hence he left the champions cos he couldnt be arsed fighting for his place and went to the bloody barcodes!!! Duff is a good player, he is NOT a great player atall.
Robbie Keane wrecks my head. He is a striker who thinks he is a bloody winger. Cant head a ball and just goes missing. He has bags of talent but maybe its just a case that he looks at the lads around him, despairs and tries too much. Easily our best outfielder, but he is wasted with Ireland and he does himself few favours.
Aidan McGeady is the great white hope
Jon Douglas....again, ONE game and ye are raving!!! ONE GAME!
Kevin Doyle, good player, but eh, how many goals in how many games??!!
Stephen Elliot, i like him. get him fit and back in the premiership and the future is his.
Clinton..... see Kilbane above....

Ireland are NOT a good team. Not even close, in fact we are muck.
Our manager is a joke and our fans applaud mediocrity and failure.
We are going nowhere quick.
oh and by the way, James McFadden, Darren Fletcher, Kenny Miller, Davie Weir, Shaun Maloney and Kris Boyd would all WALK on our team.

typical of what i expect
A bit of honest negativity and idiots like you cant handle it
oh we should all be happy, everything is great la la la
COP ON! Everything is **** and the sooner people open their fu**ing eyes and see it the better.,
This is the truth, we are SH*T.

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Originally Posted by an_ceannaire

..... James McFadden, Darren Fletcher, Kenny Miller, Davie Weir, Shaun Maloney and Kris Boyd would all WALK on our team.

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Who???

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Originally Posted by an_ceannaire

Lads will ye take off the green tinted glasses and wake up! What are ye like! Why are Irish people so bloody afraid to be negative! Ye are probably the same clowns who actually APPLUADED them off the pitch in Nicosia!! Unbelievable. Look, we do NOT have a good team.
Shay Given is a class keeper
Steve Finnan is an average full back and nothing more
Richard Dunne is a good strong footballer
Ian Harte is a terrible defender
Stephen Carr is 3 years past his best and a non entity these days
Paul McShane plays ONE good game and he is the new Kevin Moran, oh my God like......!!!!
Andy Reid is fat, one dimensional and over rated. He is a Charlton sub!
Kevin Kilbane is......Kevin Kilbane. I dont need to have a go, we all know.....
Lee Carsely, well is Lee Carsely is the Saviour, God Help us all
John O'Shea is USELESS USELESS USELESS and he is nothing else
Damien Duff is so over rated in this country is sickening. He is a lad with ability but a horrible attitude, hence he left the champions cos he couldnt be arsed fighting for his place and went to the bloody barcodes!!! Duff is a good player, he is NOT a great player atall.
Robbie Keane wrecks my head. He is a striker who thinks he is a bloody winger. Cant head a ball and just goes missing. He has bags of talent but maybe its just a case that he looks at the lads around him, despairs and tries too much. Easily our best outfielder, but he is wasted with Ireland and he does himself few favours.
Aidan McGeady is the great white hope
Jon Douglas....again, ONE game and ye are raving!!! ONE GAME!
Kevin Doyle, good player, but eh, how many goals in how many games??!!
Stephen Elliot, i like him. get him fit and back in the premiership and the future is his.
Clinton..... see Kilbane above....

Ireland are NOT a good team. Not even close, in fact we are muck.
Our manager is a joke and our fans applaud mediocrity and failure.
We are going nowhere quick.
oh and by the way, James McFadden, Darren Fletcher, Kenny Miller, Davie Weir, Shaun Maloney and Kris Boyd would all WALK on our team.

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Heard it all before. Pre Giles, Pre Charlton, Pre McCarthy etc etc. This squad is better that many of the squads Giles, McCarthy and Kerr had. Not as good as some of those Charlton and Hand had. Scotland just got beaten by a poor Ukrainian team. They will not qualify for Euro 2006. Watch them lose to Italy and France away. We will beat San marino twice. Get at least 8 points from our games against Wales and Slovakia. And if we can get into contention for second place then anything could happen in the games against the Germans and the Czechs. Staunton is a lucky ****er for still having a job. I don't rate hime but somehow he has survived Cyprus. And lucky ****ers and teams that hang in there always seem to get to championships.

I don't think this country is afraid to be negative. I can't assume you live abroad but I suspect it. If anything what gets me down is the constant whinging moaning and generally negative vibes that come about in Ireland.

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Originally Posted by Kingdom

Apologies my account was left open in work and one of my colleagues put in that last post.

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Worst excuse ever for attacking someone.

Wouldnt be so sure about Weir or Boyd walking into the Irish team
I agree mostly with what your saying if even a liitle forcefully put

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Originally Posted by Kingdom

Apologies my account was left open in work and one of my colleagues put in that last post.

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mine switches off after about 2 mins of inactivity ;) that colleague is a swift little bugger - we should try him out for the national team!!:D

i'll agree with most of that too an_ceannaire. middle of the road players in a mid level teams playing in a grossly over-hyped league (great entertainmaent but more huff and puff than the technical possession football needed in modern game - exclude arsenal BTW). although i think it shows that mcCarthy did a good job and doesn't deserve the vilification received post saipan. can't fully blame the manager because of the limited resources but a top notch manager would definately get more out of them.

The reason the squad is bad because Staunton refuses to call up some of the older players who are still in the EPL or still play in the Coca-Cola Championship who can still get it done. He just wants to get the younger guys experience for the 2010 Campaign. This was the stupidest thing I had heard in a long time...until I heard his comments on Cyprus

Kingdom Im Sorry I would have to agree just shocking excuse for attaching someone

There are a small amount of positives to take from the Ireland Team with Mcgeady, I do think Doyle has the potential and ability to play for one of the big teams in England.

Other than that I would have to agree with most of what an ceannaire has said in the first post of the thread we are not a good enough good enough team and that is also shown today with Northern Ireland overtaking us in the FIFA rankings not that I take them that seriously but at this very minute they have got there act together and would be classed a better side.

I have to say in regard to the manager STEPHEN, maybe its the case that his heart is in the right place and he is trying to do what he thinks best but lets be honest he has totally no experience and thats the problem, my beef would be with the FAI for hiring him there the total joke and I suppose always have been but that I suppose will never change.

The only thing that is for sure were in Decline, and its happening much quicker than many would have thought

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Originally Posted by murtybyrne

Kingdom Im Sorry I would have to agree just shocking excuse for attaching someone

There are a small amount of positives to take from the Ireland Team with Mcgeady, I do think Doyle has the potential and ability to play for one of the big teams in England.

Other than that I would have to agree with most of what an ceannaire has said in the first post of the thread we are not a good enough good enough team and that is also shown today with Northern Ireland overtaking us in the FIFA rankings not that I take them that seriously but at this very minute they have got there act together and would be classed a better side.

I have to say in regard to the manager STEPHEN, maybe its the case that his heart is in the right place and he is trying to do what he thinks best but lets be honest he has totally no experience and thats the problem, my beef would be with the FAI for hiring him there the total joke and I suppose always have been but that I suppose will never change.

The only thing that is for sure were in Decline, and its happening much quicker than many would have thought

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By the By

My Spelling is shocking also!!!!!!

Should be Attacking not attaching!!

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Originally Posted by an_ceannaire

oh and by the way, James McFadden, Darren Fletcher, Kenny Miller, Davie Weir, Shaun Maloney and Kris Boyd would all WALK on our team.

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You're either insane, Scottish or have the memory of a goldfish, probably all 3. With posts like these and the NI posts I'm going to have a laugh when Scotland and NI find their level (way down the positions in the qualifying groups) which will happen over the course of qualification. O'Shea keeps Fletcher out of the United team ffs. Says it all really.

i dont like being this negative, but there is no point deluding ourselves. If we keep setting the bar too high then all we can do is fall. David O'Leary and John Aldridge are both currently available. I dont particularly rate DOL as a manager, but at least the man has experience, CL experience! Stan was the Walsall assistant!!!
Get DOL in ASAP and let Stephen Carr back to Tyneside for good. Somebody needs to sit O'Shea down and have one serious bloody talk with him because since Keano retired he is just sauntering around the place, devil may care, sure i play for Man Yoo, i am above ye all.....
Its fellas like O'Shea who kill me. Kilbane is awful, lets call a spade a spade here lads, but by God he tries. Killer puts on that shirt and he will die for it. O'Shea is the exact opposite.
But as i said, its the fans attitude that kills me. We are great, we have great players, you'll never beat the Irish, sure remember 1988 etc etc.....oh my God! What I wouldnt give to get Roy in as manager, i know its not a possibility, maybe ever, but by God can you imagine them doing a Nicosia knowing he was waiting in the dressing room for them!! They would all have legged it with ten minutes to go straight to the nearest bloody airport and got the first flight to Brazil! Best bloody place for most of them.

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i'll agree with most of that too an_ceannaire. middle of the road players in a mid level teams playing in a grossly over-hyped league (great entertainmaent but more huff and puff than the technical possession football needed in modern game - exclude arsenal BTW). although i think it shows that mcCarthy did a good job and doesn't deserve the vilification received post saipan. can't fully blame the manager because of the limited resources but a top notch manager would definately get more out of them.

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This grossly overhyped league we keep hearing about (the Premiership). The only real way of comparing leagues is the Champions League. The Premiership has produced finalists the last 2 years and so far in the Champions League this year their teams have won 8 drawn 1 and lost 1 (ironically Arsenal!).

I'll accept the argument that the Spanish League is probably better and even possibly the Italian League (though results in Europe wouldnt back this up). However there is no way any other league in the world is stronger. So if you have a team made up of players form at worst the 3rd best league in the world, you'd have to say they should be beating teams made up of players from the Cypriot and Greek League.

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You're either insane, Scottish or have the memory of a goldfish, probably all 3. With posts like these and the NI posts I'm going to have a laugh when Scotland and NI find their level (way down the positions in the qualifying groups)

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Scotland in particular and NI have historically had better teams than us
as one poster said they would see the recent events as natural order
being restored

u think John O'Shea is better than Darren Fletcher? Well i think ure wrong, i think Fletcher is LESS **** than o' shea basically!!McFadden is far superior to both

That team is good enough to win and qualify for tournaments. All they need is a positive attitude. People coming on whinging and moaning don't help at all. The same people who are whinging and moaning about everything. Probably the same people who moan and groan about the government, then refuse to vote. Go into the pubs, knock back 10 pints, and have a good old moan about everything. Wake up in the morning looking for something to moan about. Useless people, good for nothing - except whinging and moaning.

We should be by far good enough to qualify for major tournaments. We have a first 11 that all plays in the Premiership (and yes the Premiership is one of the top european leagues if Champions league results are anything to go by). Many of our players are or have been consistently good performers in the recent past for their teams in the premiership (Given, Duff, Keane, Finnan, Dunne, Doyle) so they should be up to the task of beating Cyprus.

To suggest we are worse than the Scots in terms of individual players is ludicrous. Most of their players play in the Scottish league which is pure s**te. The ones who have tried or do play in the Premiership were proven to not be up to the task (Ferguson and Fletcher) or are average at best (Mc Fadden). Kenny Miller couldn't even set the world alight at Wolves in the Championship.

Anyway everyone forgets Scotland were absolutely atrocious only a year or so ago under Vogts with most of the same players. We simply have a similar problem now with Staunton. If we could get a manager of similar quality to Walter Smith we would easily qualify from our group IMO. With Staunton we'll go nowhere.

Lets combine a team from the two and see who has more players, and for gods sakes, be honest and not just green, and lets have no anti rangers sh*te ok

For me

Given,
Finnan,
Dunne,
Weir,
Caldwell,
Duff,
Ferguson,
Fletcher,
Keane,
Miller,
McFadden

McGeady, Maloney, Carsley, Doyle, McShane and Gordon as main subs, Weir as captain.
And DEFINETLY Walter Smith as manager

Let me guess your an Everton fan?