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Mark Foley a Republician congressman from Florida has just help lose the congress and possibly the senate to the Democrats. He had been emailing teenage pages(congress messengers) with obscene requests. The dirtbag had already been outed by parents but this was coverd up by other top Repubicians. I would not be surprised if this goes all the way to Bush. Watch this story develop.
Links please?
It's all over the shop.
http://news.google.ie/news?q=foley
I doubt it'll bring down Bush, but he's already well on the way to doing that himself anyway. It could certainly lose the GOP everything - the Senate, the House, the Presidency - for a term or two. There was a major cover-up here, a very bad one.
adam
This is the same a/hole that spoke out against this type of stuff last year and called for more severe penalties against sexual predators. I hope he gets what he deserves. Sick Bas***d. The spin has already begun. He's checking into rehab now for treatment of alcohol abuse.:rolleyes:
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/15646317.htm
First one I found in google
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/15646317.htm
Thats going to kill the Repubs alright. Can't see how will affect Bush directly as he has no more elections. A Democratic majority in the Senate & Congress would make Bush a lame duck for next 2 years though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Mark_Foley_scandal
As ever, wikipedia can give a good general run down of events. Unbelievable given the committee he heads.
Democratic house and senate will lead to Bush impeachment.
highly unlikely mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
I'm with Dodge on this although I'm interested to hear why you think Bush would be impeached NG? Unless he has been given information on the situation then it would seem he has nothing to do with this matter unless you take the line of how technically he is in charge of this mob therefore the top man should fall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
That's as likely as George Michael giving up his hash pipe though.
I think the overreaction to this has been unbelievable.
Foley sent 'lurid' messages to a sixteen year old page, or messenger.
16 years old - paedophilia it isnt. I'd like to know the average of first sexual experience in the USA, or even an upright moral country like Ireland. 16 year olds are usually quite experienced.
Dare I say it, if he had been sending the same kind of emails to a female, it wouldn't have been such a big problem.
Should he resign? Yes
Should we feel he has behaved wrongly? Yes
Should the FBI be investigating? God No.
If you arrested every middle-aged man who tried to get laid with a teenager you would arrest millions.
It is the (badly executed) cover-up that will do any real damage.
Sorry. Should have explained myself more clearly. I believe he will be impeached on his misleading the US into war. And having his own party covering up for Pedos makes that much easier to do. Also watch out for the re-emergence of the Jeff Gannon (male prostitute) story who was given WH press access by Karl Rove as if Gannon was a journalist. This was not covered by the US media first time round . Also George seniors white house was also embroiled in a male prostitute scandal back in 1989. Here are the links.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Gannon
http://killtown.blogspot.com/2006/01...-sex-ring.html
Honestly, I dont see how he is a sick bast@rd.Quote:
Originally Posted by strangeirish
I can see how it is wrong, and makes people uncomfortable or angry, but 'sick'?
I am only 27 years old, but I find some teenagers attractive.
Just because he is middle-aged doesnt mean he loses his 'desire'.
Again, dare I say it, is the outrage the same as it would be if he had sent his messages to a female?
Legally it is Paedophellia. Age of Consent in the US is 18.Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
Osarusan Foley was the head of the exploited childrens network in the US until he resigned on Friday. Ironically he will be prosecuted under the very laws which he introduced.
I know that legally 18 is the age of consent.
At what age would you consider a teenager to be sexually aware and able to make their own decisions?
The image in the media is that Foley was 'preying' on this innocent young flower of youth.
Excerpts of messages, which show the young guy replying in kind to Foley's remarks, definitely contradict this.
Male or female osarusan, sick in the sense that he is co-chairman of the Congressional Missing and Exploited Children's Caucus. He was intimating a desire for a sixteen year old and no doubt would have acted on that desire given the opportunity. And that my friend, is sick in my book.Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
I know he was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
My point is that, however hypocritical he was, and however morally wrong his actions were, he is not a 'sick b@stard' and he is not 'exploiting children'.
It's not paedophilia, it's grooming.Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsPartisan
The problem isn't the grooming itself, and trying to paint it as that and that alone is a GOP-style attempt at distraction. If you want to defend the GOP, feel free; but defend their covering this up, which is the primary concern.Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
GOP-style politicking won't be tolerated here, it will condidered trolling and dealt with in the same way.
adam
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Originally Posted by strangeirish
I'm not trying to defend the guy in any way, I'm happy when any Republican loses their seat for any reason, and I think the level of hypocracy is amazing, but I dont think the labels of "paedophile" and "sick b@stard" are warranted.
By your rationale, any person over 18 who intimated a desire for a sixteen year old would be termed "sick".
I dont believe this is the case.