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heard through the grape-vine that coughlan had to leave city
it was a gunther thing aswell
heard him chatting at work-it was either join bohs or retire from loi
i think he will come back and haunt us
afterall he likes scoring in daler dosent he!!!!!!!!!!!111
i notice he didnt play at the weekend.....whats the story there?
he was suspended for the first game of the season..although my sources tell me he was seen 'wandering' around dalyer at the bohs V ucd game :)
I wonder if, on his return to the cross, Derek will get a Davey Hill type reception or an evil Ollie type reception.;)
Every player who leaves City has to get the "Judas"! That's the way it is...!
might i suggest a reception somewhat inbetween
dont think he'll get quite the evil ollie one
but definately not the davey hill one
dont think there are many players out there as loved as davey and we all know davey was pushed out of the club and really didnt want to leave cork..
Whatever the rights or wrongs of, bhut Derek been trying to leave city for at least a season.
I suggest a minor ripple of appluase before the start of the match & the standard judas treatment during the match...?
I didn't notice but Ollie Ca$hi££ get any kind of reception before the start of the match?
;)
He wont get anything as bad as evil Ollie but he is bound to get a fair bit of stick especially as he left of his own free will.
Before the match the $hels fans were singing theres only one Ollie Cahill and there was a pretty loud boo from the shed.
he deserves worse than Ollie!!! he did exactly the same and he is actually a Corkman!
die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
maybe derek might play tru to form and give away a few soft goals to us. god knows he gave away a fair few when he played with us. the guy was pretty awful a lot of the time
btw what is with all this der "walked out on us stuff", last week according to the anti-murphy clones he was "pushed" and the goons were vilifying Murphy for it. now the clones blame coughlan for deserting city. What's it to be guys?- walked or pushed?:cool:
Not all anti Murphy "clones" think that, he's wanted to go for some time whatever the reason he still wanted to go..... wheather he had a scrap with Gunther or not Gunther made a choice, what gets me is these people all left for FREE!!!
I'm anti Murphy but doesn't stop me loving CCFC any less - or wishing him well.
Never mind that I still don't like Murphy as a manager, but as Manager he still should have total control of his team and all that goes on, he made a mess of Ollie and Derek leaving the club why 'cause he didn't get money for them. Don't care why they wanted to leave but the fact remains they wanted to leave, bad choice in not selling them.
Its the same as the RK and MMC row no matter what you think of any of them the Manager makes the decision about the player.
i think derek had made his mind up a while back. hopefully we will hammer him like he has been hammered when he played with us
Surely it would be the boards fault for not giving them what the other clubs were offering. If David Beckham didnt sign that contract before the WC would it be Alex Ferguson's fault if he went to Milan on a Bosman? No it would have been Kenyon's fault. The blame for Ollie and Dereck leaving lies with the former board.Quote:
Originally posted by Dricky
Never mind that I still don't like Murphy as a manager, but as Manager he still should have total control of his team and all that goes on, he made a mess of Ollie and Derek leaving the club why 'cause he didn't get money for them. Don't care why they wanted to leave but the fact remains they wanted to leave, bad choice in not selling them.
The difference between Ollie and Dereck's departure?
a) Ollie "I could never play for another club in Ireland against Cork"
Dereck 'woops I forgot my regrestration in England'
b) Ollie -> $hels
Dereck -> Bohs
c) Ollie left when we had no cover for him
Dereck left when we had Deccie, Napeir, the lad whos gone to the US who's name I cant remember for the life of me!, Andrews, gaz on his way back, Lordan knocking on the door.
d) Everyone hates Shels and everyone conected with that club (especially the ones called Ollie)
hahaha :)
excellent troy nice one
not going to win anything now are yea judas ollie
also how bout when ollie while still playing for city slammed city fans and the shed in paticular over the 451 glen crowe thing last year where we were all holding up the glen crowe pics..
glen himself saw it as a joke
but not our dearly beloved and now departed olli€
he slamed city fans as being disgraceful..
cheerio judas :)
we've got billy back anyways .. who needs ollie
They didn't sign new contract 12 months ago, should of sold them to someone the boy scouts of Ireland if they were to pay, yes the board would be the sellers but if they hadn't signed... sell them, it's not like any of us expected to be top 5 last year. Murphy could of pushed the issue he was after all building a team. If he didn't have the future support of the players then he should of made money on them. well then Yes it is his responsibility to ensure they we put them to some use....... it's not like he has never made a player leave before now is it.Quote:
Surely it would be the boards fault for not giving them what the other clubs were offering. If David Beckham didnt sign that contract before the WC would it be Alex Ferguson's fault if he went to Milan on a Bosman?
they walked because they were given a chance to see out their contracts why????
as i say der is no loss. strong in the air, great heart and 100% committed and he did score that goal in 1998 but the guy could be a liability.
Anyway he will probably be back next year anyway.
as for ollie best of luck to him he's a shels man now and jez did he have a nightmare on friday. it's great to see how the crowd could claim nearly 100% credit for putting him off his game:D
It's a pity it's such a short season, if it were like normal Ollie would have to return to the cross again, I'd say he'd sh*t himself
yeah I reckon you are right. the guy looked as if he had a serious dose of trots he looked so bad. naybe brian L gave him last years batch of potato pies as a welcome back gesture.
still though I will be following his shels career with interest:D
Its too easy to say the club should just sell those players in the last 12 months of their contracts as its not as if these players worth millions.....
Ollie or Derek would have been sold for feck all & probably were of more value keeping for the last year. Imagine where we would have finished without them last year....
I do take your point but we didn't exactly light up the skies last year now did we
Well during season 00-01 and beginning of 01-02 most boards were saying that the two were poor and not up to much and should be dropped if their heart wasn't in it etc etc I think they should of been sold, Billy was a target for the past 12-18 months so it's not like CCFC hadn't planned for a replacement, and 50,000 is a fair bit for any El club and both would of achieved that amount with 12 months to go, allot more if it was 2 years ago. If the intention was there to keep them they would of been loaned out..... When Murphy came in they didn't commit......
we were sh*t last year, with or without them we were sh*t.
We finished nowhere and they walked for free------ either would have commanded a good fee from any of the Dublin clubs. And if they were that impressive they'd be with Leicester.